skymedic 0 #1 August 15, 2002 Is the Space canopy the same as a cobalt? and who made them? atair? or skydepot? never really knew anything about this canopy... thanks for the info... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,102 #2 August 15, 2002 The Space (and the SuperSpace, and the SuperSpace II) were somewhat old paragliding canopies, but that's probably not what you meant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #3 August 15, 2002 ya think your funny do ya?? Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 August 15, 2002 Yes.. The Space and Alpha were both made by Atair and labeled for sale in the US by SkyDepot. The Coblat is the same except the Space is built from 9 top skin pieces and the Cobalt is 18. Accourding to Atair the 18 makes for a cleaner and better airfoil.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #5 August 16, 2002 Phreezone is exactly right. They were made by Atair and Skydepot marketed them here (they even created two models out of one canoopy (space and alpha). They are very good canopies if you can a hold of one. ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #6 August 16, 2002 the space, alpha and impulse are all the exact same canopy. they were designed and manufactured by atair. the space and alpha were private lables for skydepot who at the time was a distributor for us. the space was marketed as a begineers canopy to be used at loadings in the 1-1.4 range. the alpha was marketed as a high performance swoopers canopy, to be used at higher wing loadings up to 2.4. the impulse is the european name for the alpha/space. the cobalt is based on the same airfoil and planform but has distint differences. first the top skin is made form 18 panels, this allows us to shape them to impose a stress pattern on the top skin. this effectively lowers the spanwise distortion making for a canopy that is more efficient. additionally the crossporting is different providing for higher speed safe deployments. the competition cobalt is based on the cobalt but with a spanwise braced nose, formed nose, different crossporting, addition of bottom skin inlet area, and a-lines... sincerely, dan <><> atair aerodynamics www.extremefly.comDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #7 August 17, 2002 Quoteaddition of bottom skin inlet area Are you saying it has ports on the bottom skin similar to an accuracy canopy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #8 August 19, 2002 No, that is not what he means. What he means is that the air inlet is rotated more "under" the nose of the canopy by way of cutting back the bottom skin in a sort of zig-zag fashion at the A-line attachment point. In this instance, it makes for better openings. the competition model is sort of a "double H-mod". In prototype form, it just snivelled WAY too long, but flew outstanding when inflated. By cutting the bottom skin back at the A's, the canopy opened faster and even smoother than a stocker. A.J. Roq, a rigger and swooper who posts here, did his own full comp mod to a stocker and got by without modifying the bottom skin by changing to a smaller slider. He says it works great. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #9 August 19, 2002 thanks chuck, nothing to add. sincerely, dan <><> www.extremefly.comDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 August 19, 2002 Nothing to it, my brother! PS: let's get together and fly our suits soon. Chuck <><>swoop lord on hiatus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
