steve1 5 #1 June 17, 2002 I've been getting some hard openings, at times, on my new Hornet. I think I know part of the problem. I'm trying to stuff a 170 canopy into a bag that was probably meant for a 135. Compounding the problem is the fact that I'm not used to O. P. fabric. (even though PISA fabric is better to work with). At any rate, when I get through wrestling around with things (for an extended time period, with sweat dripping everywhere) and finally get it in the bag.... I think I may be letting the slider come down. At least that is my present theory. So I was wondering if it would be safe to get a bigger bag and put it in my present container. I have a talon container that is meant to hold anything between 135 to 170 (with 150 being about perfect). I was under the impression that each container is meant to take only one size of bag. Couldn't a bigger bag get wedged in the container even if the pin was pulled. So, that is my dumb question for the week. Thanks, Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 June 17, 2002 I would think that you would be OK but the safe thing to do is call the manufacturer. "Here I come to save the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 June 17, 2002 I recently posted a thread about the same thing here.Heather emailed me again last week after I sent the check and said she spoke with Henri and he wasn't sure it's such a good idea. She advised me to talk to the packers who have been packing and/or a rigger and see what they say. If they believe it is definitely too small, they'll give me a bigger one. But if it's just that my packing skills aren't up to par, she said it would be better to stay with what I have.cielos azules y cerveza fría-Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #4 June 17, 2002 PhyllyKev,I had a couple other experienced jumpers and a rigger advised me to get a bigger bag yesterday, but again I want to make sure it's the right thing to do. For my first two stows I've been using tandem type rubber bands. You have to stretch them out three or four inches to reach the tongue on the bag. Actually I've got it down to a fair system now (to get it in the bag), but a couple guys thought it might be causing problems with the slider slipping down the lines and creating hard openings. One of these guys was giving me a demonstration on how to shove my canopy in the bag correctly because he was convinced it was causing the problems. Actually I think I did a neater job than he did. At any rate everyone was telling me to get a bigger bag. Thanks for the imput. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #5 June 17, 2002 Try psycho paxcking it - it might work out cheaper than buying a new bag. Just a thought. Adrenaline Junkie Skydive Monkey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #6 June 18, 2002 Hey steve I too was having problems stuffing my Hor 150 into a samller bag...so my DZO pulled out a bunch of bags picked one that was a size bigger and BLAM in it went ....and I havnet had any problems with the openings...both the smaller bag an bigger bag opened the same ...nice and soft!! I wouldnt sweat it too much jsut get ya a little bit bigger bag!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #7 June 18, 2002 Jason,Last night I tried putting the top of the canopy in the bag first and then folded the bottom in. I think it goes in a little easier that way. The few hard openings I've had are probably my fault. I love the way Hornets fly. It's much easier to land, and a whole lot faster than my old Falcon. Talk to you later. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #8 June 18, 2002 Yup!!! I too have found myself on occassion doing the reverse "S" fold from the bottom coming out.....like you said I just stuf it back in there as best I can and call it good!! some of my nicest openings were from the sloppiest trashing packing!!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #9 June 18, 2002 a bigger bag should be ok as long as the container can handle the volume well. if your current bag is a tight fit then you may just be moving the problem of getting the canopy in the bag to closing the container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 June 18, 2002 I like to always have a bag one size bigger; it definitely makes it less of a chore to get packed. For example, I use an RS bag in my XRS. It's only an inch taller, but it really makes a difference. The container cinches it down to the same size anyway. Another option is vented mesh bags. Pete Culbreth makes them down in Columbus, GA. This makes my one size bigger theory work even better, as the air squishes out more cleanly when you close the container. ChuckAre you a Monkey or a Flunky? HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #11 June 26, 2002 I used to have a 170 Hornet and would PsychoPack it in bag and container meant for a 140 canopy. It was tight but the PsychoPack let me get it in the bag without too much work. Put 70 jumps on it without a problem...and had sweet openings!"Slow down! You are too young to be moving that fast!" Old Man Crawfish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites