beckrj 0 #1 November 26, 2001 I have seen numerous ads for used Sabres that have a 'slider pocket' to help slow down the opening. Excuse my ignorance but what is a slider pocket and how does it work? Any help would be greatly appreciated. THANKS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 November 26, 2001 A slider pocket or pocket slider have extra material sewn to the slider to make it "catch" more air and hold it. Its usually added to the front and rear of the slider and forms a "pocket" to grab the air and slow the slider down. The pocket can wrap into a roll or just have a slight curve to catch the air.I'm not sure what to put here right now..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #3 November 26, 2001 Both my old sabers had them. Basically what it is, is a piece of ZP that is the width of the slider, folded in half and sewn to the front of the slider. Then it is either sewn in half or in thirds to make little pockets that catch air while the canopy is opening to slow it down. Both of my canopys had ~1000ft snivels, that can be adjusted by the size of the pockets.Kelli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beckrj 0 #4 November 26, 2001 now I know what they are and how they work do you think they are a good idea? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #5 November 26, 2001 YES!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diver123 0 #6 November 26, 2001 I'm totally with skycat on this one. I have a sabre 170 that was constantly leaving me with blood blisters on my thighs and shoulders so I checked one out. Since adding it (the pocket) to my slider, I rarely see an opening under 800 feet and that's the way I like them. Honestly, they're always right around a thousand cause I still roll the nose a couple times... I've messed around with the packing and simply by adjusting the number of nose rolls and placement you can pretty much "fine tune" your opening to however fast or slow you'd like it... I totally recommend it, but you should always check with a rigger just to be safe... Oh yeah, it cost me about 20 bucks and ten minutes of one of my jump days... "pull high! It's lower than you think..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kirils 1 #7 November 27, 2001 My 120 has a pocketed slider. It has worked great, I have always had good openings...till last week. I don't know how it happened , but the pocketed flap on the slider twisted around the slider itself and on opening it spanked me good. I have kidney damage from that opening and am out of the sky for at least 2 months. MY point: Be wary of any canopy that has a pocketed slider. It's been added as an easy fix for a design problem in the canopy.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycat 0 #8 November 27, 2001 Wow....That is a new one. Personally never had anything close to that happen, how big is the pocket? How did you pack the slider, i.e. just quarter the slider or quarter it and pull the pockets out in front of the nose.Just wondering, my rigger is a huge advocate of pocket sliders on sabres and advises all of his clients to have them installed if they have a Sabre 150 or larger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpervali 2 #9 November 27, 2001 Most canopies you see with the pocket have had a "fix" done to them to stop hard openings. Not many of the new sabre's need them, unless you want one. A lot of canopies when they first hit the market may get a retro this or that, but then the production line begins to ship tweaked or redesigned chutes. Any zp with a slider packing error will SLAM you. Been there. I saw a canopy explode 2 weeks ago from a packing error, he let his tail get unfolded and the slider creep out 2 or 3 inches, then shoved it in the bag anyway. $950 to replace his main.jumpervali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lazerq3 0 #10 November 27, 2001 Quote$950 to replace his main.OUCH!!! how much did it cost to fix himjason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kirils 1 #11 November 28, 2001 On my canopy the slider pockets are on a flap the size of the normal slider area...it's huge! It hangs over the nose. I only quarter the main area. (I consulted with a rigger about packing it when I bought it). After this incident I'm trading it in on a Xaos-21. I am being evaluated for surgery today...I never really was aware how critical sliders can be to a safe opening. I know now.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gemini 0 #12 November 28, 2001 Good luck today! Hope they only prescribe rest. Let us know. Gemini... Fear? Fear is riding the plane down ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
diver123 0 #6 November 26, 2001 I'm totally with skycat on this one. I have a sabre 170 that was constantly leaving me with blood blisters on my thighs and shoulders so I checked one out. Since adding it (the pocket) to my slider, I rarely see an opening under 800 feet and that's the way I like them. Honestly, they're always right around a thousand cause I still roll the nose a couple times... I've messed around with the packing and simply by adjusting the number of nose rolls and placement you can pretty much "fine tune" your opening to however fast or slow you'd like it... I totally recommend it, but you should always check with a rigger just to be safe... Oh yeah, it cost me about 20 bucks and ten minutes of one of my jump days... "pull high! It's lower than you think..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #7 November 27, 2001 My 120 has a pocketed slider. It has worked great, I have always had good openings...till last week. I don't know how it happened , but the pocketed flap on the slider twisted around the slider itself and on opening it spanked me good. I have kidney damage from that opening and am out of the sky for at least 2 months. MY point: Be wary of any canopy that has a pocketed slider. It's been added as an easy fix for a design problem in the canopy.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #8 November 27, 2001 Wow....That is a new one. Personally never had anything close to that happen, how big is the pocket? How did you pack the slider, i.e. just quarter the slider or quarter it and pull the pockets out in front of the nose.Just wondering, my rigger is a huge advocate of pocket sliders on sabres and advises all of his clients to have them installed if they have a Sabre 150 or larger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpervali 2 #9 November 27, 2001 Most canopies you see with the pocket have had a "fix" done to them to stop hard openings. Not many of the new sabre's need them, unless you want one. A lot of canopies when they first hit the market may get a retro this or that, but then the production line begins to ship tweaked or redesigned chutes. Any zp with a slider packing error will SLAM you. Been there. I saw a canopy explode 2 weeks ago from a packing error, he let his tail get unfolded and the slider creep out 2 or 3 inches, then shoved it in the bag anyway. $950 to replace his main.jumpervali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #10 November 27, 2001 Quote$950 to replace his main.OUCH!!! how much did it cost to fix himjason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #11 November 28, 2001 On my canopy the slider pockets are on a flap the size of the normal slider area...it's huge! It hangs over the nose. I only quarter the main area. (I consulted with a rigger about packing it when I bought it). After this incident I'm trading it in on a Xaos-21. I am being evaluated for surgery today...I never really was aware how critical sliders can be to a safe opening. I know now.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #12 November 28, 2001 Good luck today! Hope they only prescribe rest. Let us know. Gemini... Fear? Fear is riding the plane down ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
