ljwobker 2 #1 August 19, 2001 I'm considering moving from my Hornet 190 (200 jumps) down to a slightly faster/smaller/more elliptical canopy. I'm considering: Crossfire 169, Heatwave 170, Sabre2 170... anyone around who has jumped some combination of the four listed? I'm interested in flight/opening characteristics and pack volume (my Hornet 190 is TIGHT)... other suggestions are always welcome...thanx.--lj Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #3 August 19, 2001 I expect someone will come along soon and recomend a 87 cobalt !! Don't pull low, unless you are Alex@SkydiveUPSC.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljwobker 2 #4 August 20, 2001 I've got just under 200 total, and probably 150 of those are on my hornet... the other 50 are a mismash of student and rental rigs... some on a manta, some on a PD190, Triathlon 190/210/230s, a navigator or two... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #5 August 21, 2001 I'm thinking of a Heatwave 170 whenever I decide to move on from my Hornet 190. About the guy who was recommending learning to use the front risers first, my front riser pressure is huge on the Hornet. I think this is the other side of the light toggle pressure. I haven't been able to do much in the way of front riser turns with the Hornet because of this. I normally just stick to the rear risers and toggles.The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #6 August 21, 2001 If you can find a used stilletto 170 for a good price, it is hard to beat. Heatwave is good too, don't spend a lot of money on a big crossfire, they seem dog slow at low wing loadings (they fly big), you can buy one one day when you downsize to a more readical loading.a stilleto 170 has very consistent openings and still quite fast for a canopy that big.I jump something much smaller, but I look back with fondness on the 40 jumps I put on a stilleto 170.ramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 August 21, 2001 I know that this may seem weird but try a Spectre 170. They handle great, dont have the quirkyness of the Stiletto or Heatwave in high winds and allows for a steeper front riser dive so you get more speed. A Spectre can surf every bit as long as a Sabre if you know how to fly it. Plus the openings are so soft its hard to tell its open! Plus with the Spectre being "rounded" it lets you do some sweet snap toggle turns up at altitude. And you can do casual CReW with it.Do I HAVE to do another raft dive??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Aviatrr 0 #8 August 22, 2001 Quote About the guy who was recommending learning to use the front risers first, my front riser pressure is huge on the Hornet. In my experience with the Hornet, the front riser pressure is fairly and the canopy does not react well at light loadings.. At light loadings, the front risers seem to make the Hornet buffet quite a bit(like flying through moderate turbulence) and there is not much speed/turn rate generated.. At higher wing loadings(1.5-1.6), the Hornet reacts better to front riser inputs, but still not as good as a similarly sized Spectre or Sabre2..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DZBone 0 #9 August 22, 2001 Quotethe front riser pressure is fairly and the canopy...I don't usually point out typos, but you left out the key word here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Aviatrr 0 #10 August 22, 2001 Quote I don't usually point out typos, but you left out the key word here... DOH!@# You're right, I kinda left out the important word.. The front riser pressure, IMO, is fairly heavy on the Hornet.. Good catch, Carl.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Aviatrr 0 #8 August 22, 2001 Quote About the guy who was recommending learning to use the front risers first, my front riser pressure is huge on the Hornet. In my experience with the Hornet, the front riser pressure is fairly and the canopy does not react well at light loadings.. At light loadings, the front risers seem to make the Hornet buffet quite a bit(like flying through moderate turbulence) and there is not much speed/turn rate generated.. At higher wing loadings(1.5-1.6), the Hornet reacts better to front riser inputs, but still not as good as a similarly sized Spectre or Sabre2..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZBone 0 #9 August 22, 2001 Quotethe front riser pressure is fairly and the canopy...I don't usually point out typos, but you left out the key word here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #10 August 22, 2001 Quote I don't usually point out typos, but you left out the key word here... DOH!@# You're right, I kinda left out the important word.. The front riser pressure, IMO, is fairly heavy on the Hornet.. Good catch, Carl.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
