rehmwa 2 #1 March 7, 2007 It's a real shame - we had a great tunnel session in Eloy in Oct. Left with the DVD, but didn't get it finalized. One teammate had it for a couple months before I snagged it and sent it back for finalization. The Eloy team turned it around quick (thanks to Annalise). But, alas, it still won't play. Does anyone have any other ideas? (It has proof of our cameraman flying in the tunnel - he has claimed vigorously over the last few years that tunnels are cheating - we need the vid to blackmail him). ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #2 March 7, 2007 Normally it has to be finalized in the same brand player that it was recorded in... 14 months ago, I had the same issue. I went back a few months after the session and they changed the players, but had the old ones in storage, so they helped me out... Past that, try multiple computers and/or tv top players. One might read it (I know my desktop and laptop both like different disks differently.) If none of that works, then I suggest you use pen and multiple sheets of paper to draw what you thought it looked like. Use your thumb to flip the 100 or so pages, at about 30 pages a second. With 100 drawings, you should get 3 seconds of flying, or about 2 points. As a team, if you each committed to 100 pages, you should get about half a dive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 March 8, 2007 Re-rip it. I just had to spend a day this week doing the same to my tunnel DVD's. Nero Recode works perfect for it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 March 8, 2007 QuoteRe-rip it. I just had to spend a day this week doing the same to my tunnel DVD's. Nero Recode works perfect for it. I don't know what that means, but I have some friends that would. Thanks Drawing all those flip book stick figures is pretty tiring. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #5 March 9, 2007 Just find a computer that reads the DVD (when its not finalized, DVD burners somehow have a higher succes-rate at reading them) and either copy/burn it to a new DVD. Or find the biggest .VOB file. Rename it to .MPG and use an authoring/burning program to create a new DVD (if 'open' menu's on the old disc are the problem) or just watch the MPG2 file on your computer..JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 March 9, 2007 QuoteJust find a computer that reads the DVD (when its not finalized, DVD burners somehow have a higher succes-rate at reading them) and either copy/burn it to a new DVD. Or find the biggest .VOB file. Rename it to .MPG and use an authoring/burning program to create a new DVD (if 'open' menu's on the old disc are the problem) or just watch the MPG2 file on your computer.. thanks, anyway, finding a computer to read it is the problem. so is reading the files on the disc. it won't show the directory even ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 March 9, 2007 Yeah, mine was doing the same thing. I'd put it in the DVD drive and it would show as a blank disk. There are tons of programs you can use to rip the DVD, down load something like DVD shrink and it will be able to decrypt the info on the DVD and allow you to pull the files off or even reburn them to a different DVD to play.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 March 9, 2007 Thanks, Eric - I have a couple friends with DVD burners on their computers (I'm due to upgrade soon). This sounds doable. Use Shrink and get the files, then burn them on a new disc.... I found Shrink, freeware. easy enough. Now I have an idea of what "rip" and "burn" mean. I'll let you know how it went. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #9 March 10, 2007 I had the same problem with my tunnel DVDs from Eloy. I downloaded a fairly cheap Windows application called CD Roller which allowed me to identify the recorded tracks and rip the raw MPEG 2 video data into files on my PC. Unfortunately, it's probably not the most user friendly tool for non-technical users, but it was cheap and did the job that I needed. Once you've got the video off the disk, you can either leave it on your PC or you can re-master it onto a DVD and finalise it, assuming that you have appropriate software for doing so. I personally use DVD Architect Studio 4.0 from Sony, which came with the Sony Vegas Video Editing suite, but there are plenty of other applications out there that should work similarly well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 March 12, 2007 No dice so far. I think I'll wait until I get a new computer, then I can muck about with it on my own. DVD Shrink - doesn't show any files (but the disc is discolored like half of it has files. Maybe I'll check the yellow pages and see if there's a service locally. It's worth a few bucks. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #11 March 12, 2007 Did you try CD Roller? The disk will show up as blank or unidentifiable, but the Identify Raw ISO Data feature should allow you to copy the unfinalised video tracks off the disk. You can then write them onto a new disk and finalise it, or whatever else takes your fancy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 March 12, 2007 No, only the DVD Shrink thing, and we were in Saturday night mode, so we didn't dig around in the menu options. I'm sure I was just too lazy, or just more in the mood to make more rum and cokes..... I'll work it for a bit. Not giving up yet. thanks for the advice - perhaps the freeware has a "identify Raw ISO data" feature too. But that's exactly the kind of thing I need to look for. later ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 March 13, 2007 QuoteDid you try CD Roller? The disk will show up as blank or unidentifiable, but the Identify Raw ISO Data feature should allow you to copy the unfinalised video tracks off the disk. Track 1 - nothing there Track 2 - Little stuff - 100% recoverable Track 3 - Little stuff - only 93% recoverable More on Track 3 - {{2 GB .vob}} on Track 3 (that would be it).... and it's 100% recoverable! Nothing on Track 4 So, do I only need the .vob file and not the little stuff, or will I need to get them all copies to my hocky puck and also some DVD blanks? I'm assuming some kind of burning program to drop it to a disc? (My hockey puck is a Seagate storage device - looks like a hockey puck) (See, I'm not very proficient in this stuff so I ask questions.....) Thanks, Ok - it notes I'll have to buy the real license for it to do more than just confirm it can see stuff........ Have to wait to get on my own computer to do this so I don't have purchased software on my work computer. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #14 March 13, 2007 The .VOB files are what you want. These are DVD video objects, which are essentially tricked-out MPEG-2 files. In CD Roller, after you've identified the .VOB files, you have a couple of options, and what works best for you will depend on what you want to do with the recovered data. The first option is to use the Recover option. This will simply copy the .VOB file to somewhere on your hard-disk unaltered. Some DVD mastering software may like working with .VOB files, but I don't use them, so I couldn't tell you much about whether this will work well for you or how. The other option is to use the Split Video option. This will take the recovered .VOB file, and split it out into separate MPEG-2 files. There is probably only one scene in each session on your DVD, although it's possible there may be multiples. Assuming that you have appropriate DVD mastering software, you should be able to take these files and create a new DVD with them. Alternatively, they should be playable in just about any media player you like to use, such as Windows Media Player, VLC, MPlayer, etc, or useable in video editing software such as Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 March 27, 2007 got it - I'm so glad we didn't throw out the disc. It's some of our best footage from last year. (Nero Recorder to the rescue) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites