Tandem video: Reserve after Main

[skydiverek 63]

Wow...: http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=7464

[camamel 0]

Hum
The cameraman lost some part of it so it's not easy to see. Anyway the main came out while the drogue was still attach.
I don't know the system (not a Sigma for sure) but it is probably a broken closing loop or a closing pin that has been pull on exit or while moving in the plane. Again we don't see the plane. In that kind of situation the instructor should pull the drogue release immediately so that one will perform as a pilote chute and pull the bag of the back of the instructor. The main might open perfectly or not and at a higher altitude for sure. But in this case this is not what a saw. It look like the Instructor pull the cut away first then the release after. Not sure if the RSL pull the reserve or the instructor maybe the RSL.
With that few information available it look like more then one mistake to me.
I am very happy for the passenger and the instructor they don't have to buy a lottery ticket...they already win it big time.

Richard

When you think you're good...this is when you become dangerous.

[bodypilot1 0]

Looked like no attempt at releasing the drouge, but instead went straight for cutaway and reserve?

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[skydiverton2 0]

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Looked like no attempt at releasing the drouge, but instead went straight for cutaway and reserve?

Most european systems release the droque once you cut-away. This sysem also when you look careful

You are right a droque release only might have solved this issue or at least make the change for an entanglement smaller

Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid.
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Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

[camamel 0]

If you take a Sigma owner's manual in the introduction they say, if I resume.
>On all other container systems, the main container closing and the drogue attachement are two separate systems, at two different locations. By far the most important problem is that these systems allow the possibility of the main container accidentally opening, while the drogue is still attached.Since 1989 this scenario has killed 9 tandem pairs. It is the leading single cause of tandem fatalities, accounting for almost one third of the total. The Sigma system éliminate this deadly malfonction.>
This jump is a perfect example of an out of séquence deployment witch is a deadly mistake...most of the time. But pulling the wrong handle in the wrong order is only one of them, I call it the last mistakes!
Worn closing loop, packing error, no good rig check prior to put it on the instructor back,not being carefull enough in the plane, on the way to the door and thru it, and pulling while unstable are all common mistakes that lead to the final error.
Usually there is a big chain of events that lead to that final error and this is where examiner,DZO and experience TI should work on with new instructors. When an instructor do the final error most of the time that's because he was not prepare for it.
Of course there is some instructors,examiners as well as DZO that have hard time to say no to stay friendly,to look cool,to have some staff!
Safety should come first and the freedom closed next.

Richard

When you think you're good...this is when you become dangerous.

[piisfish 140]

I hope the videoman is not a "professionnal"...

would like to hear from BKR on this one...

on the video it seems that the TI reaches for his drogue release (left hand) and then cutaway (we see the cutaway handle flying).. In my eyes at a first glance it seems the emergency procedures are in sequence, and in correct time.

The only visible defect is the main flap (at least right flap) is open already when the drogue is set (maybe a broken loop)

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