Name that airplane X 2

[Krip 2]

Hi guys and gals

This a thread involves two different acft, produced 50+ years apart.

To make it more challenging we don't have a photo of either acft, and I'm old and can't spell

Acft #1 was used in the final scene of the movie Casablanca 1942.

Ingred Berman was geting ready to board the bird at the airport saying goodby to her true love Humphrey Bogart as her huband to be was waiting on the airplan.

Can anyone name that airplane????

Acft #2: Fast fwd 60 years a aircraft was low enough to be wither landing or taking off and we see it thru our sunroof.

Acft #2 The bird was high tech, the latest and the greatest, At least for us.

From my quick view I noticed what I would call the horizontal stablizer at the front of the plane , radical sweprt back wings with a push turbo prop engine attached close to the end of ea wing.

Corp Jet?

Ladies and gents can you name none, one or both of these airplanes.

Hint there is a pic of a plane in a movie poster for casablanca but Ingred Berman is geeking the camera and takeing up most of the poster space,

R.I.P.

One Jump Wonder

[oldwomanc6 60]

Hey Krip, I'll bite.
#1 Loadstar

#2 Some sort of Rutan aircraft?

Where's Howard White when you need him?

lisa

lisa
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[kd5xb 1]

I believe plane #1 to be a Lockheed Electra.

Airplane #2 is possibly a Piaggio P180 or a Beechcraft Starship.

I'm a jumper. Even though I don't always have money for jumps, and may not ever own a rig again, I'll always be a jumper.

[totter 2]

Aircraft #2 is a stumper. Could be a Piaggio or a Starship, but their engines are in by the wing roots, not the tips.

Aircraft #1 is a Lockheed Model 12 Electra Junior.

Thanks Wikipedia

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

Hi kd,

+1 on the Electra.

No idea on #2,

JerryBaumchen

[howardwhite 6]

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Where's Howard White when you need him?

Err, jumping out of airplanes. A fun hybrid, nearly at sunset.

HW

[jimmytavino 16]

Is # 2...
the pedal powered Gossamer Albatross????

VERY lightweight. transparent skin.
a "capsule" shaped fuselage/cabin wherein a world level bicyclist would sit.. and Pedal
... sending power to the props.. i believe it skimmed across the English Channel at one point,, no higher than 100 feet off the water.... but i could be mistaken.....
jt

[ripcord4 0]

Aircraft #2 could possibly be a Piaggio P180. The Piaggio P180 Avanti is an Italian twin-engine turboprop aircraft produced by Piaggio Aero. It seats up to nine passengers in a pressurized cabin, and may be flown by one or two pilots.

[Krip 2]

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Is # 2...
the pedal powered Gossamer Albatross????

VERY lightweight. transparent skin.
a "capsule" shaped fuselage/cabin wherein a world level bicyclist would sit.. and Pedal
... sending power to the props.. i believe it skimmed across the English Channel at one point,, no higher than 100 feet off the water.... but i could be mistaken.....
jt

Let me think a second....

Nope

One Jump Wonder

[riggerrob 643]

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Acft #2: Fast fwd 60 years a aircraft was low enough to be either landing or taking off and we see it thru our sunroof.

Acft #2 The bird was high tech, the latest and the greatest, At least for us.

From my quick view I noticed what I would call the horizontal stablizer at the front of the plane , radical swept-back wings with a push turbo prop engine attached close to the end of ea wing.

Corp Jet?
...

R.I.P.

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Sounds like a Starship, designed by Burt Rutan and built by Beechcraft. Starships were built in small numbers, but now most have been retired.

The basic problem was weight. Since the Starship was one of the first all-composite airframes certified by the Federal Aviation Administration, the FAA insisted on such large large structural margins that it ended up as heavy as a King Air and did not perform significantly better than a King Air ... powered by a similar pair of Pratt & Whitney PT6 turboprop engines.

After trying to sell Starships - for a decade or so - Beechcraft decided that they no longer wanted to supply spare parts for Starships, bought up most of the Starship fleet and scrapped them.

[oldwomanc6 60]

So, are you ever going to tell us?

lisa
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FB 1023
CBDB 9

[Krip 2]

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So, are you ever going to tell us?

Hi Nice lady
Of course I, will trust me.

The next time the DB Cooper Thread hits the top
of this forum than I'll give you the answer.

So many threads so many questions
R.

One Jump Wonder

[Krip 2]

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So, are you ever going to tell us?

Hi Nice Lady

Of course I'm a man of my word

That was quick Mr cooper is #1 again. Sooo

Three peeps voted for the same acft in the movie casablanca

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Aircraft #1 is a Lockheed Model 12 Electra Junior.

Thanks Wikipedia

Works for me

The state of the art newer airplane. I don't have a clue

R.

One Jump Wonder

[377 22]

No. 1 Lockheed Electra

No. 2. Piaggio Avanti? Beech Starship?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[Krip 2]

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Hey Krip, I'll bite.
#1 Loadstar

#2 Some sort of Rutan aircraft?

Where's Howard White when you need him?

lisa

Hello nice lady

Sorry about the delay Me bad.

We have a partial winner, Rutan had his pencil in the design.

I hate to drag this out but it's the DB cooper thing.

Stay tuned for the actual name. After your gentle reminder, with some added help from some of the other posters it's one of only four left in existence.

Will call the local airport tower to verify and see if we can get escorted to the flt line for some pics. The next time it shows up,

Take that DB cooper

R.I.P.

One Jump Wonder

[Krip 2]

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So, are you ever going to tell us?

Hi Nice lady

Status report

I'm getting closer to finding paper work on the startship vs piaggio mystery. So there won't be any he said, they said DB cooper BS theory stuff.

More updates to follow. As time allows

Not sure if trying to keep up with the DB Cooper thread is worth the effort, either they have some serious issues or their playing games.

None of my business thats Mr Quades job. I wouldn't want that job, it's like herding cats

R.

One Jump Wonder

[Krip 2]

Status report:

still doing research and gathering objective evidence, Starship or the Piago

One Jump Wonder

[Krip 2]

Hi

Status report

The closest flying starship is Tail No 8285Q
Owner starship Holding LLC
NC-50

Loction 150 mi east of THIX at Walla walla

Local airport where we wintnessed the event THIX

Still can not verify that the bird I saw was the starship but we're making some progress.

Flightaware.com is a data base but it's a challenge to accesss the historical records, for old folks with limited computer skills.

R.

One Jump Wonder

[Krip 2]

Hi


The secrete to the DB Cooper top of the page contest. And maybe the solution
CC&P.

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from DB cooper hread

Hi. Florida is realy a changed place the economy has realy taken its toll on this sand bar state so many buisnesses has folded.The same can be said for Georgia. Especially the Atlanta area.I guess it is the same all over the US. Picked up the pony it is a prety car Shelly will love it the new plates for it will read Spoiled.I wanted her to get plates that said cost to much. Still its been a fun trip. Haven't read much of the forum Georger will contact you soon. Jerry

Where's the cat herder. Not complaining Houston you may have a problem.

One Jump Wonder

[oldwomanc6 60]

Thanks Krip,

Eagerly waiting to hear what plane it actually is. If you can take pics, that would be lovely.
lisa

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[Krip 2]

Hi

Latest noise from DB thread to maintain their first in line position.

CCP

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ok 377 get me the NB8 i will let my own rigger pack it and i will jump it when and where you, green, farflung, georger wish. time of day too. don't care if it is at night. i will get my own ride to altitude. who is in? put up or shut up. i will even wear the stupid shoes provided by all of you experts.





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I'm in. Who is your rigger? I can send the NB 8 to him or her. Its stock military: no deployment sleeve, no D rings for a reserve. You'd better arrange to have an emergency right over Ariel. I don't think a sport jump with only one canopy is legal. If you get a typical jumpship it's always an emergency so no worries.

I think a sunset jump would be best. You need to see and be seen. A night jump would be more authentic but let's give you a reasonable chance of having a beer with the gang rather than a date with an orthopedic surgeon or a coroner.

When you land and are mobbed by reporters your name is Robert Blevins.

377

Can someone get a Google Earth shot of the area around the Ariel Tavern and post a link?



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Malfunction? Cutaway and pull silver...you know... that tab on the top of the beer can.

IMO Mr Quade warned about this type of behavor at the beginning of the thread.

Not complaining Quade you the man

R.

One Jump Wonder