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Jo More of your BS and I can and will Prove it if you persist in these matters. stop it.
georger 271
There has never been any doubt what he said when he said "I'm Dan Cooper". It was how he said it --- he cooed out the Coooooooper.
"When Jo Weber failed to understand what her husband was talking about, he became angry and shouted "Oh, let it die with me." (Associated Press
2000)
"*Skyjack71 didn't know who Dan Cooper was, but she can clearly remember the name because he pronounced it in a peculiar way. When she continued to challenge Duane on the confession (telling him that his story was non-sense), Duane cursed loudly. Having heard Duane getting upset and thinking he was having trouble dealing with his pain and the idea of his ultimate death, the nurses rushed in and immediately gave him a shot of morphine."
( safecrackingPLF Dec 20, 2007, 10:16 AM )
But not knowing who DB Cooper even was, Jo was
on the phone to Himmelsbach a few short months
later - she went right to the top without contacting
anyone else! No intermediaries. That's her story.
But she posted here a few months ago she and
Duane discussed McCoy and Cooper at Virginia
Beach.
So which version of Jo's story is correct?
Whatever the case is, Jo decided not to honor
Duane request made in anguish: ""Oh, let it die
with me."
Jo was in fact on the phone to Himmelsbach a few
short months later.
If she didnt have any idea who DB Cooper was
how in hell did she know who Ralph Himmelsbach was! ?
And, if she didnt know who Cooper was how could
she judge Duane was talking "nonsense", to turn
right around and call lead Cooper investigator
Himmelsbach about it, in violation of her husband's
request that she should let his nonsense which
amounted to nothing to Jo, DIE WITH HIM!
Jo read the book That was Called what realy Happened. In the book it placed cooper ,Putting the money under the the cowitz river bridge. When I first talked to her,She told me that Duane was driving accross that bridge on I5 Bridge . Then continued north to the Cowitz river bridge And said that under the bridge is where Duane said Cooper Burried his money. She got that Info From one of the Books.Then she tried to get some of the nurses at the hospital where Duane was dying to say that Duane said he was cooper . A couple years later she found a person that would say that they heard duane say he was cooper . This was found to be another fabrication.Then she found Doug P . Now remember that She never implicated Duane as the Hyjacker untill latter years. At that time frame all she realy wanted was to prove that Duane May have Known who cooper was.Then it was built up to a point that she thought she could make money. She contacted a book Writer . I talked to this writer. She was going to write a book for Jo But Only If Jo could prove that Duane was involved in the Hyjacking.This is what got Jo started on her Quest.Jo if you would like I will give phone numbers and name's to all It" your Call
377 22
QuoteMaybe 377 is here because he's her lawyer watching
everything for Jo? I dont know.
Nope. Never represented Jo. Wouldn't want to. I couldn't give her such a hard time if she were my client.
I REALLY don't think Jo has a money angle here. If she does I sure haven't seen it. I think she is sincere in her beliefs and isn't seeking fame and fortune, just closure. I don't think Duane was Cooper. Jo does. We simply disagree respectfully. What is so damned hard about that?
Airtwardo and I think exactly alike on big brother monitoring this forum. Highly unlikely, but bring it on. Who cares?
Attention: C4, dirty bomb, isotope, water supply, diesel, nitrates, ammonium, aerosol pathogens, are ya listening or word matching out there NSA CIA FBI DHS? Just testing your system and my first amendment rights. As you were men. Carry on.
As for all this copyright nonsense, ignore it if you don't like it. Do you really think Jo would go to federal court and sue over you quoting her posts? I doubt that very much. Look up the "fair use doctrine" in copyright law.
This forum is pretty anarchistic. Don't get all hung up on intellectual property laws cause this here forum is the wild west pardner.
Yee haw.
377
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I didn't know who Dan Cooper was and it was 1 yr and 2 months after Duane died I found out Dan Cooper was - D.B. Cooper. Had Duane told me D.B. Cooper maybe things would have clicked before. As it was it took a conversation with a gentleman friend who suggested D.B.Cooper and as the story goes I checked out a book from the library a couple of wks later and that is when I discovered who Dan Cooper was.
Himmelsbach's was mentioned in that book.
Now you know the rest of the story, but you do know what is cooking on the stove?
Himmelsbach's was mentioned in that book.
Now you know the rest of the story, but you do know what is cooking on the stove?
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QuoteJo read the book That was Called what realy Happened. In the book it placed cooper ,Putting the money under the the cowitz river bridge. When I first talked to her,She told me that Duane was driving accross that bridge on I5 Bridge . Then continued north to the Cowitz river bridge And said that under the bridge is where Duane said Cooper Burried his money. She got that Info From one of the Books.Then she tried to get some of the nurses at the hospital where Duane was dying to say that Duane said he was cooper . A couple years later she found a person that would say that they heard duane say he was cooper . This was found to be another fabrication.Then she found Doug P . Now remember that She never implicated Duane as the Hyjacker untill latter years. At that time frame all she realy wanted was to prove that Duane May have Known who cooper was.Then it was built up to a point that she thought she could make money. She contacted a book Writer . I talked to this writer. She was going to write a book for Jo But Only If Jo could prove that Duane was involved in the Hyjacking.This is what got Jo started on her Quest.Jo if you would like I will give phone numbers and name's to all It" your Call
My Call:
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The only reason I-5 was ever mentioned was you and others convincing me I had to be on the Columbia. I had only been to Wa that one time - if you talk to the TV Crew you will know I specifically ruled out the Lewis and the Columbia in 2001. You were adamant that no such place as I describe existed...insisting I had to be on the Columbia. After all you were the expert and you knew Wa - who was I to question your expertise?
I never spoke to the nurses at that hospital except when Duane was a resident there.
I still stand-by - If he wasn't Cooper he sure as hell knew who was. Only because at that time I had no confirmation he was - other than what I saw and held in my hands. I had writers and production companies contact me and it was the continued investigative work of myself and many many others that kept adding up to a Yes. I am the one who told the writers I needed more proof. There has only been one female writer who assisted me - this being in the very beginng around 1998. She wanted to do the book - I wanted more proof and she felt we could find it. I wanted to wait until the FBI had done all it was going to do. When I needed her she had move back to St. Thomas and I could find no contact number for her through her prior employer. They promised to give her a message.
Jerry, who D.B. Cooper was has been swept under the rug long enough. I told you I was sending your post to a "friend". You could have been part of what is happening, but you chose to spend your time on this forum trying to make me look like a fool - all you have done is make not only a fool of yourself, but set yourself up for certain ridicule in the coming months. You see I do know what is cooking.
First and foremost - eat your words about Doug Pasternak - you have pie on your face.
He researched and talked to me for for over 2 yrs before he convinced me to go public. I wanted more proof but all it took was an FBI agent telling me a lie in early 2000 with me holding documentation to the contrary.
I had no Quest - and was NOT motivated by money. I could have taken money a long time ago, but that was NOT what I wanted - I wanted the truth and the truth was out there - you just had to know where to look. It took better and more informed individuals to bring this to an end and Jerry I promise you - you will not like it, because you are not part of the solution...in fact you may well have side tracked me successfully, but others working on my behalf ignored you. What I was told was NOT complimentary - you maybe the very reason my search has gone on for so long.
If the FBI and Others are monitoring this forum - more power to them because they should have been using their time and money for more productive things. The answer was right in front of me within the first 2 yrs of the research. When this part of my search was mentioned it was ignored as some things had a way of just being wiped out like they never existed and only mentioned if I was the one proposing it. When you find what that was then you will have taken the first step to solving the case of D.B. Cooper.
Guys - I am not teasing and I want to tell you, but I can't . In a very few months all of you will know. In this age of computers with more and more knowledge being put out there - it was inevitable that someone with just a little information, a hunch and an open mind would stumble upon the
Key to Cooper.
Blue Skies, Rainbows and a Peace of mind I haven't felt in yrs...it is a wonderful feeling.....you can't put a dollar sign on that.
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georger 271
QuoteI didn't know who Dan Cooper was and it was 1 yr and 2 months after Duane died I found out Dan Cooper was - D.B. Cooper. ... it took a conversation with a gentleman friend who suggested D.B.Cooper and ... I checked out a book from the library a couple of wks later and that is when I discovered who Dan Cooper was. Himmelsbach's was mentioned in that book.
So that would be 1995 + 1 yr 2 months + couple of weeks which makes it Feb-March of 1996 when
you found out who Cooper/Himmelsbach were.
In May 2008 you said:
"4. Tosaws Book was published in 1984 - but I did not see or read that book my self until 1997, but Duane probably did...he just didn't bring it around me or I didn't know what it was about.
5. Norjack did not make the streets until 1986 - this is the book he had at our house, but I didn't know what the book was about...I have told that story before so need to retell it. (May 2008)
So which is it, 1996 or 1997 when you read
Tosaw's book? Your new date as of tonight is now
early in 1996.
And why would you have to go to a library when you
already had NORJACK in your house (since 1986?)?
I guess I should assume you just didnt know what
a book titled NORJAK was, if it was even out on your shelf to see.
I am confused. Can you see how your versions are
difficult to follow because they conflict?
Im just searching for the truth like you.
As for what's cooking on your stove - how would
I know?
I will say I am not taking sides in your debate with
Jerry Thomas. He says one thing. You say another.
Nobody has presented any hard data yet, as
Snowmman would say.
But, I am wondering if there is ever going to be any
space open on this forum to discuss DB Cooper,
since you dominate EVERYTHING here daily. Or
should we once again just consider going elsewhere?
The last time you relented you started right back up
because you felt you "had" to. You dont allow any
objective discussion of anything here. You tease
and dont present real facts substantiated by any
thing - no data at all. I know you have your fans
here, but are you going to allow us to discuss DB
Cooper or not?
It's really that simple, as I see it.
I was May 25 1996 when I read the book and contacted the FBI. Duane died March 28 1995.
Georger stated:
So which is it, 1996 or 1997 when you read Tosaw's book? Your new date as of tonight is now early in 1996.
Jo retorts:
The book I read in May of 1996 was a part fiction and part fact - called D.B. Cooper What Really Happened. I ordered Tosaws book after Himmelsbach told me about it. Remember I did not even have a computer in 1996 - not until 2000.
Georger stated:
And why would you have to go to a library when you
already had NORJACK in your house (since 1986?)?
Jo retorts
You don't read much do you? How many time do I have to repeat the story about NORJACK. The book for 1986 I never got to read. Remember - I told Duane I wanted to read it when he got through with it - he told me it was nothing I would be interested in. When I asked later about the book - it was gone. He said one of the guys at the office wanted to read it.
It was after I talked to Himmelsbach that he sent me a copy of NORJACK in 1996 after I had read the Max Gunther book in May of 1996.
Georger stated:
So which is it, 1996 or 1997 when you read Tosaw's book? Your new date as of tonight is now early in 1996.
Jo retorts:
The book I read in May of 1996 was a part fiction and part fact - called D.B. Cooper What Really Happened. I ordered Tosaws book after Himmelsbach told me about it. Remember I did not even have a computer in 1996 - not until 2000.
Georger stated:
And why would you have to go to a library when you
already had NORJACK in your house (since 1986?)?
Jo retorts
You don't read much do you? How many time do I have to repeat the story about NORJACK. The book for 1986 I never got to read. Remember - I told Duane I wanted to read it when he got through with it - he told me it was nothing I would be interested in. When I asked later about the book - it was gone. He said one of the guys at the office wanted to read it.
It was after I talked to Himmelsbach that he sent me a copy of NORJACK in 1996 after I had read the Max Gunther book in May of 1996.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
georger 271
QuoteI was May 25 1996 when I read the book anc contacted the FBI. Duane died March 28 1995.
Georger stated:
So which is it, 1996 or 1997 when you read Tosaw's book? Your new date as of tonight is now early in 1996.
Jo retorts:
The book I read in May of 1996 was a part fiction and part fact - called D.B. Cooper -What Really Happened . I ordered Tosaws book after Himmelsbach told me about it. Remember I didn;t even have a computer in 1996 - not until 2000.
Georger stated:
And why would you have to go to a library when you
already had NORJACK in your house (since 1986?)?
Jo retorts
You don't read much do you? How many time do I have to repeat the story about NORJACK. The book for 1986 I never got to read. Remember - I told Duane I wanted to read it when he got through with it - he told me it was nothing I would be interested in. When I asked later about the book - it was gone - he said one of the guys at the office wanted to read it.
It was after I talked to Himmelsbach that he sent me a copy of NORJACK in 1996 after I had read the Max Gunther book in May of 1996.
Georger stated:
As for what's cooking on your stove - how would
I know?
Jo retorts;
You won't know until it is ready to be served. Any more silly question and I just might dump the bowl in your lap. Since it is extremely hot I don't think you will find that very comfortable.
I guess I need to take that as a threat.
georger 271
Georger stated:
As for what's cooking on your stove - how would
I know?
Jo retorts;
You won't know until it is ready to be served. Any more silly question and I just might dump the bowl in your lap. Since it is extremely hot I don't think you will find that very comfortable.
As for what's cooking on your stove - how would
I know?
Jo retorts;
You won't know until it is ready to be served. Any more silly question and I just might dump the bowl in your lap. Since it is extremely hot I don't think you will find that very comfortable.
Are you threatening mer and my family?
Shoud I call LE now?
georger 271
Quote
Georger stated:
As for what's cooking on your stove - how would
I know?
Jo retorts;
You won't know until it is ready to be served. Any more silly question and I just might dump the bowl in your lap. Since it is extremely hot I don't think you will find that very comfortable.
Are you threatening mer and my family?
Shoud I call LE now?
Jo you have made a threat.
I am waiting for a reply.
nigel99 660
people need to lighten up here.
Seriously internet forums tend to have a "tone" and in general the moderators (Quade) have been extremely generous in allowing this particular thread to stay alive with the general tone that it contains. If anyone cares to go and browse the bonfire/speakers corner and see that threads are locked/recycled for alot less than what goes on here.
While this thread is focused on Cooper it makes an entertaining read and I will be the first to admit that I don't give a damn who Cooper was, and therefore I have no "vested" interest in seeing this thread live on. But some people do take a serious interest in who Cooper was and I think the fact that the thread is in history and trivia means that a certain level of focus in in order.
Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.
georger 271
Quotepeople need to lighten up here.
Seriously internet forums tend to have a "tone" and in general the moderators (Quade) have been extremely generous in allowing this particular thread to stay alive with the general tone that it contains. If anyone cares to go and browse the bonfire/speakers corner and see that threads are locked/recycled for alot less than what goes on here.
While this thread is focused on Cooper it makes an entertaining read and I will be the first to admit that I don't give a damn who Cooper was, and therefore I have no "vested" interest in seeing this thread live on. But some people do take a serious interest in who Cooper was and I think the fact that the thread is in history and trivia means that a certain level of focus in in order.
Its better to be safe than sorry.
Law enforcement has been notified and is aware
of the situation.
Thanks.
Georger
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