DB Cooper

[Orange1 0]

One of the stewardesses, Florence IIRC, was reported as having chronic nightmares as a result of the hijack. To me, that is more symptomatic of a traumatic experience than trying to cover something up?

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

[snowmman 3]

Do not contact me with respect to a copy of these files

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10184558-83.html

Also, the Iranians have no direct experience with the vehicle in question. Information has no value, per the experts on this forum.

[georger 266]

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Well i won't uncover yet, Snow and georger have not rung in with their right hooks. In this day and age, of media media media, it seems like EVERYONE talks sooner or later. I just still find it odd none of the crew have never spoke over the years not even at the major anniversaries,...

IF the pieces doesn't fits, Cooper didn't exists! HA! I am just having fun with this statement nothing meant by it.

D

It is possible this was a training exercise but if that
is the case you will not know until say 50 years down
the road and most of us are dead and gone, and
it no longer matters.

Snow seems to be taking that stance by focusing
on inconsistencies and contradictions which unravel everything. But that in itself could be disinformation
meant to unravel reality. Snowmman clearly engages in 'petty' psychological warfare here testing how far he/she can manipulate people, but for what end, if any?

Then on April 7 1972 Richard McCoy used the same
tactic as Cooper hijacking a 727, but McCoy is shot and killed by the FBI at Virginia Beach VA in 1974 with most of the ransom money recovered.

Then some time after 1978 who begins living at Virgina Beach VA? Duane Weber. People at Virgina Beach are talking about the McCoy incident and many are already linking McCoy to Cooper. Duane Weber gets interested and links McCoy to Cooper.
It was no work of genius at the time.

Duane Weber tells people he 'knows who DB Cooper was' but of course its already an open secret everyone is talking about.

Duane never says HE was DB Cooper. We dont even know how serious Duane was about this matter except years later a friend of Duane's will tell people Duane told him 'I know who DB Cooper was'. Jo Weber will tell people the same thing years later
around 2001 - that Duane thought he knew or suspected he knew "who DB Cooper was".

Finally in 1991 "DB Cooper: The Real McCoy" is published. In 1995 Duane dies.

Somewhere in this mix of seperation, Jo Weber began to claim Duane Weber was DB Cooper!

So, you start with the apparent hijacking itself.
You have a copycat Richard MyCoy who repeats
the Cooper's stunt but gets shot and killed.
You have a third party Duane Weber also at
Virgina Beach where McCoy was killed, who gets interested and begins talking up the idea McCoy
and Cooper were one. (Duane's idea may even have come from Jo!) And then a fourth party Jo Weber herself who changes the story for the media claiming 'Duane was Cooper'. And now you who say - " Cooper didn't exist! HA!"

The conclusion is obvious:

What began either as a training exercise or a real
hijacking ends up four parties removed and 30 years later with Jo Weber claiming Duane Weber was DB Cooper, because Jo Weber needs attention; all because Duane movd to Virgina Beach where the real Richard McCoy was shot and killed, and it
caught Duane and Jo's interest.

Snowmman will fit into this somewhere, inevitably.

[snowmman 3]

I discovered another tell.
Anyone who has ever called Jo on the telephone, is by definition, an asshole.
(edit) I only got two mentions in the prior post. Problem. Correct.

[ltdiver 3]

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"You could hardly turn around in the
woods without running into somebody ... "

If a lot of searchers were searching in areas where Cooper landed and wouldn't be able to extract himself from, then it's likely some number of the searchers died in trying to get back out.

Did any? If not, why not? What did they have that Cooper didn't?

Shoes!

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[snowmman 3]

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"You could hardly turn around in the
woods without running into somebody ... "

If a lot of searchers were searching in areas where Cooper landed and wouldn't be able to extract himself from, then it's likely some number of the searchers died in trying to get back out.

Did any? If not, why not? What did they have that Cooper didn't?

Shoes!

ltdiver

Hi ltdiver. Possibly. Is that a 50-50 possibility though? Look at Tina's description. Then look at Schaffner's. What kind of shoes was Cooper wearing? Are both descriptions of equal strength? We believe Tina more for other things. Should we believe her more here?

I don't know what Cooper had for shoes. I don't think anyone does?


Descriptions of Cooper:

Mucklow

"W/M, mid 40's, 5-10" 6', 180 to 190, med to dark complexion, medium build, dark straight hair with narrow sideburns to mid ear parted and combed back, dark plastic wrap-around sunglasses, dark top coat, dark brown suit possibly with a thin black stripe, brown socks, brown ankle length pebble grain shoes, not the tie type, he had a low voice with no accent, she did not see scars, marks or tattoos, the man did not have on any jewelry she could see."

Schaffner

"W/M, mid 40's, 6', 170-175, average build, brown eyes, straight black hair medium length and parted on the left side, olive skin, black business suit, white shirt, thin black tie, black overcoat, black shoes, black briefcase, dark framed sunglasses with brown lenses, no scars marks or tattoos, he had a normal calm voice and appeared to be of Latin descent."

[ltdiver 3]

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Possibly. Is that a 50-50 possibility though? Look at Tina's description. Then look at Schaffner's. What kind of shoes was Cooper wearing? Are both descriptions of equal strength? We believe Tina more for other things. Should we believe her more here?

Yes, we all know this information. In fact most of what's being rehashed has been hashed many times before. It's a bit like a monkey in a dryer. Nothing changes except the monkey just goes round and round. Can't wait for the timer to ding and be done with it.

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[Orange1 0]

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Then on April 7 1972 Richard McCoy used the same
tactic as Cooper hijacking a 727, but McCoy is shot and killed by the FBI at Virginia Beach VA in 1974 with most of the ransom money recovered.

Then some time after 1978 who begins living at Virgina Beach VA? Duane Weber. People at Virgina Beach are talking about the McCoy incident and many are already linking McCoy to Cooper. Duane Weber gets interested and links McCoy to Cooper.
It was no work of genius at the time.

Duane Weber tells people he 'knows who DB Cooper was' but of course its already an open secret everyone is talking about.

Duane never says HE was DB Cooper. We dont even know how serious Duane was about this matter except years later a friend of Duane's will tell people Duane told him 'I know who DB Cooper was'. Jo Weber will tell people the same thing years later
around 2001 - that Duane thought he knew or suspected he knew "who DB Cooper was".

Finally in 1991 "DB Cooper: The Real McCoy" is published. In 1995 Duane dies.

Now THAT - is a well constructed argument that the fits the "facts" as we know them.
Don't forget there are still people who are convinced McCoy and Cooper were the same person. Duane could easily have been one of them... having travelled around on the trail to find the money like many others, explaining the various trips etc. (Or at least explaining all the stuff we know, as opposed to the stuff we are told but have no evidence for.)

ltdiver's shoes post -- Makes me think of that snippet we got told about a shoe being found somewhere...not much else ever came of that? In cold conditions, is it true not having shoes would make someone much more susceptible to hypothemia than otherwise? I seem to recall this is right from a Discovery or similar show I saw on the subject a while ago (where they showed no headcovering and no shoes would cool the body down fastest)

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

[snowmman 3]

Okay for March Madness month, I'm going to propose something really difficult. No one can use the word "Duane" or "Weber" in a post.

I suspect this will be the most difficult for georger, not Jo.


Here's a new thread we can start talking about if people want. There's a long train of thought that can be developed from it, possibly. Or someone can dismiss it quickly, maybe.

on page 72 of the original transcripts, (which is page 5 of the attached pdf for easy reference)

R6 at the Seattle ARTCC says "Roger sir I lost your transponder".
This is at 0454:53, GMT (8:54:53 PST).

I've provided enough background already so people should be familiar with the probable gear at Seattle ARTCC? (We could even discuss that more).

The timestamp is as interesting as the quote. I think you guys are tired of my long speculative dissertations, so someone else run with this.

Georger, you can just call me an asswipe or something. Make it new though.

[snowmman 3]

I've found a bunch of references to people finding shoes in the woods.

More frequent than you would think.

This guy (redmond, wa) made a list of stuff he'd find as a kid in the woods by his house, by example. That hunters forum I posted had posts about weird circles of shoes in the woods, or single shoes, also.

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/east_king/red/opinion/26250774.html

Among the other booty found in the woods:

1) Shoes. There was usually just one, but we always had hopes that a matching one would show up---or cooler yet, one with a foot still in it.

2) Pocketknives. My brothers seemed to find lots of them, but I never could. I did once find some toenail clippers---not as cool as a full-fledged knife, but still more of a weapon than fingernail clippers.

3) Magazines and books. Most often, there were just a few surviving pages, but my friend Steve once found, intact, what he called a “nudie” magazine. It turned out to be a National Geographic featuring an Amazonian tribe. Not Playboy, but still better than nothing.

4) We’d also find the occasional pack of smokes. We didn’t smoke them, but if they were the kind with filters, we’d remove those and make earplugs out of them.

[snowmman 3]

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Possibly. Is that a 50-50 possibility though? Look at Tina's description. Then look at Schaffner's. What kind of shoes was Cooper wearing? Are both descriptions of equal strength? We believe Tina more for other things. Should we believe her more here?

Yes, we all know this information. In fact most of what's being rehashed has been hashed many times before. It's a bit like a monkey in a dryer. Nothing changes except the monkey just goes round and round. Can't wait for the timer to ding and be done with it.

ltdiver

Yeah but it's hard to tell, isn't it.
Jerry comes on here with a story about the plane being somewhere else, although he won't tell us exactly where, he claims we don't know the weather, the wind, the flight path or anything.

Georger acts like Jerry knows stuff. Jerry acts like he knows stuff and seems to want to make us think Himmelsbach has told him secret stuff.

I have no idea what people believe, ltdiver.

So yeah, I'm stating what I think is obvious, but how the hell can I tell what others think is obvious, anymore???

Sometimes I think this thread is more about the people here, than Cooper.. I guess it is, isn't it.(me included).

[snowmman 3]

Georger, you mentioned:
"(3) Snowmman's prolific SEARCHING SKILLS ARE
ACTUALLY LIMITED! Snowmman is a joke. I know
people who could SEARCH circles around you on
a routine basis and they work for minimum wage! "

You are correct. Let's take advantage of that.

Jerry mentioned sources of data that contradicts our weather information from Ckret. Could you get this person you mentioned to find that data for us? I think Jerry won't provide it.

The minimum wage for the state of WA in 2009 is highest in the nation and is $8.55 per hour, per
http://www.lni.wa.gov/IPUB/700-102-909.pdf

I can afford two hours, which should be sufficient. I can put a $20 in the mail once the worker gets the data?

Thanks.
Like I said, we need to have this Cooper thing jumpstart the economy. Doing my part.

[snowmman 3]

Little Baldy is a nice like peak on the map, about 5 miles NW of Dougan Falls. It is very serious. 3945 feet in elevation, and not for the faint of heart. It almost approaches the elevation of some peaks in the East.


I figured I'd look on the web, since everything is on the web, and here's a page with some nice hiking pics and information. The 1902 forest fire is interesting. There are plenty of hiking trails for you. There is some bushwhack, some logging trail.


Caption for the attached pic is
"Little Baldy on the right, Silver Star Mt. is the saddle-shaped peak to Little Baldy's left. (the right hump is the summit.) The Chinook Trail can be seen entering the mostly Silver Fir forest in the center. Photo taken from the Bluff Mt. Bluffs"

nice area pictures at the site
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/154619/little-baldy.html

There are MANY pictures of mountains/hills in the area at this
page. Hills are nice to stand on to see where you're going to go (for $1000/day :)
http://www.summitpost.org/object_list.php?object_type=1&distance_1=100&distance_lat_1=45.74740&distance_lon_1=-122.20360&map_1=1&is_open=1

Just click on the little red icons, and you'll get a picture.

"The aptly named Little Baldy is a near perfect three-sided triangle of steep, talus covered ridges and talus covered faces on the east side of the Silver Star Mountain complex in western Skamania County. The peak is unique in the area due to its pronounced symmetry and also for its striking talus covered slopes falling away some 1,900 vertical feet on the NNE side and some 1,200 feet on the SW side. Accessed by the Chinook Trail the peak isn't too difficult to get to (ed. Probably lying) and well worth the effort for the spectacular views in all directions. Nearly all of the Gorge peaks can be spotted as well as five of our snow-capped volcanoes: St. Helens, Rainier, Adams, Hood and Jefferson.

The Chinook band of Native Americans populated this area for millennia and they traveled these hills collecting seasonal berries and hunting game (ed. Probably a lie also). Some of the trails you will travel may very well be the same ones they built and used for many thousands of years.

On September 11th, 1902, a huge forest fire started near Carson in the Columbia River Gorge and in just 36 hours, swept in from the east and climbed up and over Silver Star Mt. and most of the surrounding ridges and peaks. In those long-ago days, there was no means or even attempt to battle such a wide spread fire and the result was one of the worst - if not THE worst disaster - to ever befall the area: 38 people were killed, at least 146 families lost their homes and over 370 square miles of forest were burned. Some of the stumps of the fire-killed trees still stand throughout the area.

Much of the higher elevation areas have not re-grown a mature forest to this day, leaving large areas for huckleberry fields and offering the opportunity for sweeping vistas of the area from most of the many trails."

(edit) Another pic of a Climber attached from that site:
caption: "Here is the spot where you get off the Chinook trail to head up Little Baldy ...with the worlds smallest cairn. Watch for the pink and black ribbon on the left side. May 2007"

(edit) While people hike it all year round (it has snow in May, say), this site lists Silverstar/Little Baldy "hiking" season (which depends on point of view), as May-Nov.
http://www.portlandhikersfieldguide.org/wiki/Silver_Star_via_Bluff_Mountain_Hike
Silver Star trail network map added. (it's next to Little Baldy)

[georger 266]

Now THAT - is a well constructed argument that the fits the "facts" as we know them.
Don't forget there are still people who are convinced McCoy and Cooper were the same person. Duane could easily have been one of them... having travelled around on the trail to find the money like many others, explaining the various trips etc. (Or at least explaining all the stuff we know, as opposed to the stuff we are told but have no evidence for.)

[snowmman 3]

oh well, already a Fail

Georger said:
"Duane's famous words - Hide it in plain site."

I tried.
Well, I get to go now
Duane, Duane, Duane, Duane, Duane, Duane, Duane, Duane.

Duane.

[Orange1 0]

What is clear from georger's long post above , is that if Jo truly had no idea who Cooper was until Duane said what he supposedly said on his deathbed, then she must have been extremely cocooned. (Yes I know she has said things that seem to contradict her statement in this before as well.) It's amazing that she seems so aware of other major incidents and somehow missed one that seems to have made newspapers and TV for ages afterwards.

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

[snowmman 3]

Have to type fast.
Knew that the reveal of uranium from gold mines in South Africa would lead to something.

March 1957. Popular Mechanics releases an article on how to build "The Prospector's Partner", a combination geiger counter and portable radio. (pic 1)

This is part of a generalized madness about finding uranium everywhere, for the government. A uranium rush, with geiger counters being used on private planes to scan areas.
What was the "Big Plan" mentioned in this ad? Was it the hijack?
(pic 2)

Explosion in sales of devices such as "The Wedgie", by a mysterious, secret, perhaps CIA-backed company called Scintillonics, in Fort Collins, Colorado, perhaps employing Duane's brother. (pic 3)

Dan Cooper invents the "Cutie Pie" detector but is fired using on local females. (pic 4)

He leaves and builds the "Nucliometer", also known as the Cooper Detector (pic 5)

per http://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/surveymeters/Detectrondg299.htm the device uses 3 types of batteries

one 67.5 volt "B" (Eveready No.467), three 30 volt "B" (Eveready No. 413), three 1.5 volt "A" (standard D cells)

pics 6 and 7 are of Eveready No. 467 and No. 413. I have also included No. 416 which is 67.5 Volts also.

Did Cooper have a Eveready No. 413 in his briefcase? Is that why Tina couldn't identify it?

Significantly, this ties together the questions of why 377, Sluggo_monster, Orange1 and Duane.

Did Cooper jump with a nuclear bomb? If not, why did Duane have the Soldier of Fortune magazine portraying that? Or only with gold? Or only with the money. Interestingly, in a future hijack, gold bars actually were delivered to the hijacker on the plane. Why?

Did Cooper used a combination geiger counter/radio to communicate with accomplices on the ground?

No animals were harmed in the creation of this post.

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Nobody from Jo's past was here to speak to her statements
directly. Jo has always said: "Remember Duane's famous words - Hide it in plain site."

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Georger. YOU would rather rant and ridicule like Jerry did on the phone - Believe me that I have witnesses ready to stand by my side when the proper time comes and that will not be in this forum.
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Hide it in plain site. I found one last thing - got to thinking about where I found that old book and the picture inside of it. There was one more item - in plain site all of this time. Another book. In this book where connections to WA, ID, OR, B.C. and CA. The other item he had place on my shelf in 1990...I had used this book, but never paid any attention to something very specific about the book. I was in the middle of a phone conversation - when the thought occured to me. I was amazed at what had been in front of me all of these yrs." (Weber: Feb 1 2009)

That Book will be present when the time is right and not in this forum. It will be presented where it will count........========================

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If you recall Jo spent weeks here over a photo from Salt Lake City and a Mormon connection she said was important to the case of Duane and DB Cooper.

you know it don't you Georger.You are nice and calm until that photo comes out and then you go get all nasty and agitated - WHY?
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As for the McCoy Book:

Sorry Georger I never read the McCoy Book - so I only know what has been said here and by a man who contacted me in reference to some fo those things...the McCoy book is mostly fiction and you know it - so why bother to mention it. McCoy's wife sued the writer and won - she did not identify the tie or a clasp? I am the one who reveal that in this forum.

Ah So you did do your research - suprise suprise;

Mrs McCoy was granted an injunction to prohibit the sale of movie rights to the book, conditional upon the movie including references to four specific allegations that she contested in the book. And
Mrs. McCoy accepted a settlement for her grief
in 1994. Cooper never left a Bigham Young medalion with MCCoy's initials on it, on the plane

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Jo seems to be using the McCoy book as her standard reference on the Cooper matter and trying to link Duane using what the McCoy book says.


How can I use a book as a standard that I have never read?


How ridiculous of you Georger - I never read the book - it has never been touched by me . How do you get that I ever did that . Why is it when I bring out the SLA city avatar you get ballistic and crazy. Why does it shake you up.?
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Remember that there was not only the books but a re-assurgence of articles on Cooper in the early 80's. He also had taken a job that required consistent contact with individuals on a daily and weekly basis."

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You see that avatar and you go ballistice every time.

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And, "MsCooper wrote on Jun 14, 2006: "The picture with the mustach and white hair was taken in Virginia Beach around 1987 -- this was how he appeared after NORJAX was put on the racks in 1986 --- Why did he suddenly grow facial hair in 1986- 87."

Jo also claims to have exclusive evidence in the Cooper case, as follows: "I am not certain but I believe I am the only one who has stated that Cooper had an Altimeter Watch - simply because Duane told me he used to have one . This was told to me in the yrs prior to my finding the ticket and stub. This was told to me in Virginia Beach, Virginia...Strange I remember where we were at the time - and what we were doing also. This does not indicate that Cooper had such a watch, but Duane did. "

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Yes he did tell me that - but we were NOT discussing Cooper. We were at a display sale in one of the hotels.
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Jo says it is strange she remembers where they were at the time, in Virginia Beach. But, of course this is where McCoy was killed, where the Cooper matter was being discussed at large, and where the Webers first got interested in DB Cooper. So Jo would remember where something so important in her life began, something she is still working on today

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It was not important to me - I was working but not on Cooper. THese are just things he pointed out - the house McCoy got killed in but I didn't know McCoy was a highjacker at that time. He just drove by the place and pointed it out - he never gave me any details and I didn't ask. McCoy was killed there before we ever moved to Virginia - so there WAS NOTHING to read in the papers.
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The only thing I am working on from our time in Virgina is some pics he showed me of some men and 3 of these men where smokjumper in the 40's.and 50's. You take everything and twist it. Duane and I were not working on anything to gether - and I was not interested in Cooper - I did not even know the things he showed me briefly were ever related to Cooper. I did not know what Norjak was about. He never let me read the book.

" With all that has happened in the last 24 hrs. - I have not one iota of doubt that Duane was Cooper....a couple of these things cannot be discussed in a forum but investigated by the FBI. Hopefully Carr will react on the information I gave him....if he doesn't SHAME on HIM. The answer to the crime has been staring the FBI in the face for 36 yrs...but who would have thought something that appeared so mundane could actually be a red flag - and the pivotal point for Cooper's decision to hijack the plane in addition to his health and personal problems at that time. I now think I can rest - I have done all I can do and I have all the proof I need. I found that needle in the haystack thanks to this forum. LOVE to all - Ms. Cooper Rest in Peace Mouse - You made your statement with what you thought would be your last few moments on earth, but you survived and you got it right and you know THAT BOY MADE GOOD! (This post was edited by skyjack71 on Jan 17, 2008, 8:29 PM)"""""

Believe me that is a good statement - because to this day CARR NEVER investigated what I gave me - not at all. But I have people on it myself. It is slow going because I am not in California doing it and the other person might not understand what they are lookiing for. Not one things I gave CArr has been investigated.... but with what is going on I suggest he get busy.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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What is clear from georger's long post above , is that if Jo truly had no idea who Cooper was until Duane said what he supposedly said on his deathbed, then she must have been extremely cocooned. (Yes I know she has said things that seem to contradict her statement in this before as well.) It's amazing that she seems so aware of other major incidents and somehow missed one that seems to have made newspapers and TV for ages afterwards.

I made a long post below and If you will be so kind as to note that Georger only does these things when I use the Salt Lake Photo. That photo drives him balistic.

I have worked hard all of my life and we did not have the internet...so I did not pay much attenction to anything other than the front page if I even saw that. I read books and I worked - that was it. I still had to cook and keep house and laundry. I was a working partner and a housewife.

I knew very little about Cooper and what I did know didn't hang with me at time as I had no reason to catelogue the memory.

Newspapers and TVs - back in thos day when everyone else was watching TV - I was making appoints on the phone or out on appointment....I hardly ever watched TV. SORRY to disalusion you...

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Snowmman clearly engages in 'petty' psychological warfare here testing how far he/she can manipulate people, but for what end, if any?

Hey, the economy is in shambles and there is no more profitable business than a cult. Snowmman knows a good thing when he sees it, just like L Ron Hubbard, Sun Myung Moon, Werner Erhard, etc. Plus, the cult leaders get the pick of the litter for "personal assistants."

When he emerges alive from the killer Washougal, after a near crucifixion and a crown of blackberry thorns, he will be hailed as a messiah. The Vatican will denounce him as a false prophet but it wont slow him down one bit. The Snowbball is on a roll.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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I made a long post below and If you will be so kind as to note that Georger only does these things when I use the Salt Lake Photo. That photo drives him balistic.

Jo,

Another tease. Who do you think is in the photo? Why do you think it elicits a strong response from G? Stop dealing in innuendo and just tell us what you contend.

The photo just looks like a guy in a band or choir uniform to me. Without further info, I fail to see any Cooper connection. Remember when you were postulating that the coat chevrons had military/govt/intelligence significance? That seemed very illogical to me.

Anything and everything you post about ________ being Cooper riles up G. Hard for me to tell that the SLC photo is an especially unique trigger point. That "ballistic" claim is also a bit illogical don't you think? IF the photo were especially significant, an FBI/CIA guy as smart as G would never rise to the bait. Correct?

As always, I welcome your posts. Free speech 24/7/365 here. Wild theories welcomed. Maybe there never was a hijack after all.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[skyjack71 0]

I came here today to find out something I just heard only to end up defending myself all morning.

I got a call from WA. that there are people down on the river doing some kind of tests. Float Tests and other things and it is all in relation to Cooper. It was about this time of the yr that the money showed up at Tena's bar.

The woman who contacted me is in Seattle so I don't know what is really going on. But Georger did all those posts and made me spend 3 yrs defending myself. Don't attack me and I am in there like I did the other night to make a quick post and then back out.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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CARR NEVER investigated what I gave me - not at all. But I have people on it myself. It is slow going because I am not in California doing it and the other person might not understand what they are lookiing for. Not one things I gave CArr has been investigated.... but with what is going on I suggest he get busy.

Jo,

Tell me why Carr wouldn't want to solve this case. Whoever solves it will go down in history as one of the best detectives of the century. Carr is an FBI agent. This is the ONLY skyjack that the FBI hasn't solved. The career enhancement would be huge. Use logic Jo. My logic tells me that Carr would reject nothing that he thought might ID Cooper. If he fails to do what you ask, it is because he sees no connection to Cooper, not because he is part of a coverup conspiracy.

Tell me why the FBI would cover up who Cooper really was if they knew. The case is old, stale, nearly irrelevant to 21st century foreign terrorism. Why would they cover up anything? The FBI does go after their own if corruption is found. If the 1971 FBI were complicit in Norjack I actually think the 2009 FBI would not cover it up. Call me naive.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Don't attack me and I am in there like I did the other night to make a quick post and then back out.

You call my posts an attack Jo? How about just responding to my polite logical questions? I am free to attack your logic and you are free to attack mine. That is not a personal attack or insult.

Your photo teases serve no useful purpose. Tell us your contentions and let's see where it goes.

You irritate a lot of people on this forum: Georger, Jerry, Shelly and even Sluggo who has treated you very respectfully. I don't get riled by you, but I can see why others might.

You could take some steps to improve things and one of them would be to stop teasing, hiding, hinting etc. Just state your alleged facts or conclusions plainly.

Is that an attack? I sure don't think it is.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[georger 266]

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What is clear from georger's long post above , is that if Jo truly had no idea who Cooper was until Duane said what he supposedly said on his deathbed, then she must have been extremely cocooned. (Yes I know she has said things that seem to contradict her statement in this before as well.) It's amazing that she seems so aware of other major incidents and somehow missed one that seems to have made newspapers and TV for ages afterwards.

Jo and Duane lived at Virgina Beach. McCoy was shot
and killed at Virgina Beach. McCoy hijacked a 727 and
parachuted just as Cooper did.

It is impossible Jo and Duane could have lived at
Virginia Beach and not known about the McCoy
and Cooper story at Virgina Beach - it was public knowledge nationally and in local conversation, at Virgina Beach.

By Jo's own words she and Duane were an active part
of the community. Jo is the one who brought up
Virgina Beach here, while also "hiding in plain" sight
the rest of the story.