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georger 264
QuoteThose are the results I obtained.
That is so much cock and bull it is not funny. It does not take much to see thru you - not much at all...you are very transparent.
What happened to the RECIPES for LIFE --- what are you trying to hide?
You are absolutely right. Why didnt I see it
sooner!? I have overworked everything. Thanks
for your logical insight. Take care...
Georger
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Jo,
My sincere sympathies. It must be very hard on everyone to lose someone so young. I really feel for her kids.
377
My sincere sympathies. It must be very hard on everyone to lose someone so young. I really feel for her kids.
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
georger 264
That is so much cock and bull it is not funny. It does not take much to see thru you - not much at all...you are very transparent.
What happened to the RECIPES for LIFE --- what are you trying to hide?
What happened to the RECIPES for LIFE --- what are you trying to hide?
I dont know anything about this RECIPES FOR LIFE? That is something you introduced in your post below.
I didnt know what you were talking about then and I dont know now, either. You will have to take
this up with yourself or others who know.
Adios -
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Jan 20, 2009, 12:04 AM
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It is not about winning anything.
FrownI told you none of the photos I had were straight on and they all had a tilt. I also DO NOT use the old Bing Crosby composite that was used (the one that allowed Cooper to stay hidden). Had they made the Rose Composite public when it was first done - Cooper would have died sitting a jail cell.
All I did was try to do something simple - Slyactually I was trying to convince myself I was the only one who saw the resemblance. That is not how it came out. Smile AT Least I don't use the composite the FBI made available (the one you use) that allowed Cooper to go for years undetected.
All of the photos I used have been posted in this forum - so your accusations are unwarranted. You take my words and my thoughts and twist them to fit whatever you want it to be and Madthen turn around and accuse me of what you are doing.
SmileCrazyWhat you do is exactly what is done to diffuse - a witness on a stand, a suspect being questioned, what the FBI and others in our government do when they want to continue to conceal something. Disfuse, disfuse and confuse till the subjects and the public give up or someone confesses to a crime they didn't commit.
I usually do not come on the computer in the day - but I had left it on because I was printing somethings out - and I saw your post and made a response.
You do everything you accuse me of doing and you do not do it for any other purpose than malice. Just ignore my posts? There is absolutely NO reason for you to reply.
As for U-tube - and some of these other programs - I have explained that I do NOT have anything but Dial-up. I have to watch the clips in incriments of second. If I could do all of that why the heck would I copy, print and cut and paste and then scan to get my results.
I even said it was an exercise in futility as it would have probably have worked with any photo of any suspect - NO you have to make an issue out of it. I am not going to play your childish game.
ShockedYour objective is to control the thoughts and imaginations of anyone who might even have a twinkle in their minds eye that Duane was Cooper and to do what the FBI has done for yrs with the old BING CROSBY composite. It is about control. ShockedWell, the the plane (the thread) is now under your direction - I wish you a safe landing. I expect you will crash the plane ( the thread) very shortly...but that has been YOUR objective all along if you were not able to controll me.
Orange thank you for the nice post you made about the cut, tape and scan - if you can get that Jefferson composite - maybe you will find why it is such a big secret from me and others.
Snowmman - I thank you for all of your past kindesses and wish you well.
It will take me a couple of wks to print the thread if I am not in the hospital and if anyone has a question PM me and I will answer.
Should the thread crash - I hope the forum will allow me a place to make a post to let everyone know
what is going on.....and there is a LOT going on.....
The SLC photo - Who the man was
Ed Hurand - the WA/OR connection.
The jump connection..
The cigarrette butts.
The paper sack.
The tie.
Witness statements the FBI hid.
The names of the others involved.
JMWave connections
Covert CIA and JMWave?
This story is NOT over and when all is said and done - you will learn that Duane Weber was Cooper.
Hide it in plain site - even the FBI couldn't find the evidence, but maybe I have been holding it all of these yrs...see the attached photo.
CKRET:
Does this put him on the plane?
Smile
Rather than to continue to speculate - why doesn't Ckret just contact Tina and ask if that is a photo of her and ask her about the "RECIPE FOR LIFE".
Remember she spent a lot of time on that plane with Cooper -
RECIPE FOR LIFE
"It is better to say a good thing about a bad man, than to say a bad thing about a good man, none of us heeds the wise man's prayer, * may I never be caught talking, when I should only be listening".
RECIPE FOR LIFE
"Doing nothing for others is the undoing of ourselves."
And more:
RECIPE FOR LIFE
To get away from yourself, help others.
RECIPE FOR LIFE
Some of our ills need:
Prayer more than pills
Aspiration more than aspirin
Meditation more than
medication.
By The Grace of God Cooper survived and eventually learned the RECIPES of Life...and now it must go full circle. These recipes of life will continue to serve others at The Smorgasbord
(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Jan 20, 2009, 12:06 AM)
Orange1 0
377,
I will try see if I can find anything new on CIA/smokejumpers etc ... I seemed to have hit the limits of Google on that one. But who knows, as the I Ching says, perseverance furthers 
As for "be nice to Jo month"... it would be a lot easier if she reciprocated, at least in kind. This whole business of the photo "proves" Duane was on the plane and "I know who it was but I won't tell you" (or as happythoughts noted, another in her long line of secret people doing secret things) is just... daft actually and appears to have pissed everyone off, including those who had more time for her than others.
As has been clear both from posts and PMs, Jo also often misjudges people's reactions to what she posts. She seems to take encouragement no matter what people say as it goes through a "Jo filter" (apparently if you disagree with her you must be going ballistic because she is right; if you marginally agree with her or try to see her side on something she takes it as full on encouragement). If anyone ignores her requests, we are cruel. If we actually address something, we are working too hard and must have a motive.
The solution is obvious.
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
georger 264
Allow me to address your complaints.
1) all were reluctant to get involved owing to the case and the parties involved ...
1) all were reluctant to get involved owing to the case and the parties involved ...
Why would a pediatrian want to get involved what could they do?
QuoteGeorge said: a panel of pediatricians, the
office of a State Archaeologist with three physical anthropologists in residence, and a county medical examiner's office.
A pediatrician sees thousands of children and has a
good eye for the gender of children at all ages. Do
you disagree with this? Have you got something
against pediatricians?
2) ALL drew a blank and were unable to state with
any assurance if the photo is of a boy or a girl!
This is the serious professioal opinion of the whole
group, to each person who looked at and examined
the photo.
It is easy to tell it is a girl ( the sleeves of the garment and the wisp of hair on the lower hair line). Does not take an expert to see this. I saw the picture before it deteriorated so badly - she has long blonde hair.
QuoteYour photo does not provide these details.
You refused to provide details after posting your
photograph. The sleeves of the garment lack detail.
There may be some billowing in the shirt but this is
not definite due to the wavy lines of cracking on the
photo. The wisp of hair you cite looks like lint on
the photo which would be commensurate with poor
storage at your residence. There is no sign of blond
hair you claim neither on the side of the head nor
on the forehead where female children often have
bangs falling onto the forehead. You may have seen
this photo in your home but you refused to post
any details about the photo after being asked many
times. Were you manipulating members of this group
and teasing them, to what purpose? To expose fraud
you suspect on members part?Quote3) all stated that in their opinion "nobody but a specialist" can contend any sex for the child in the photo based on the photo alone.
Number 2 explains the sex - the wisps of hair and the blouse.QuoteBut there is no sign of blond hair in this
photograph. The hair looks short and dark. There
is a lock of hair over the right ear which you have not mentioned. This does look suspiciously female but
you did not point that out. You may chose to use
that from now on to promote your cause. But there is
no sign of blond hair not even on the forehead of
this child. The sex is undetermined and androgenic
to my eyes without better detail. If you had facts
about this photograph why would you chose to withold
those when also stating to the FBI your photograph
is crucial? Anyone can see that.Quote4) the physical anthropologists stated that if this
was a photo of bones and a cranium, they very likely would be able to determine sex, but the addition of flesh makes the matter uncertain at the age involved.
You are working at this too hard - therefore you have a motive.QuoteNo, to the contrary I believe it is you working
too hard, therefore you have a motive. I had no motive except to help when examining the image
you presented, claiming it is vital and proves your
case.QuoteThose are the results I obtained.
That is so much cock and bull it is not funny. It does not take much to see thru you - not much at all...you are very transparent.QuoteYou sound like a psychologist. Are you?
What happened to the RECIPES for LIFE --- what are you trying to hide?Quoteno comment - obscure and meaningless.
GeorgeOrange1 0
Quoteobscure and meaningless.
Indeed. Like much (most? all?) of the other stuff.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.obscure and meaningless.
Indeed. Like much (most? all?) of the other stuff.
I slep for a few hours and will state one last time that this is a photo of a girl (I saw it before it had deterioated) and it was in a book that had been wet. The book had the Recipe's of life in it...is a small brittle spiral gold book and appears to be of religous organization.
Some of us know how to make the little things count while some of the rest of us worry and putter and push and shove hunting moehills to make mountains out of.
You don't have to be listed in WHO's WHO's to know What's what.
A girls blouse is a girls blouse and hair pulled back with whisk around neck is a girl. Ignore that I saw the photo before it started falling apart. I just assumed it was a photo of his daughter, but it appeared when the other articles came into being in 1990. Hence I believe they all came off that plane with him. He placed it with my books and told me to take good care of it.,,I did not see the photo until after he died a few yrs later.and I was cleaning thinging things out.
Obscure, but not meaningless.
Hide it in plain site..You can think what you think and I will think what I know .Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo WeberOrange1 0
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QuoteQuoteobscure and meaningless.
Indeed. Like much (most? all?) of the other stuff.
I slep for a few hours and will state one last time that this is a photo of a girl (I saw it before it had deterioated) and it was in a book that had been wet. The book had the Recipe's of life in it...is a small brittle spiral gold book and appears to be of religous organization.
Some of us know how to make the little things count while some of the rest of us worry and putter and push and shove hunting moehills to make mountains out of.
You don't have to be listed in WHO's WHO's to know What's what.
A girls blouse is a girls blouse and hair pulled back with whisk around neck is a girl. Ignore that I saw the photo before it started falling apart. I just assumed it was a photo of his daughter, but it appeared when the other articles came into being in 1990. Hence I believe they all came off that plane with him. He placed it with my books and told me to take good care of it.,,I did not see the photo until after he died a few yrs later.and I was cleaning thinging things out.
Obscure, but not meaningless.
Hide it in plain site..You can think what you think and I will think what I know .
And this is the kind of thing you think "proves" Duane was on the plane and expect the FBI to go running around after?
....ya, whatever.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
This is NOT the picture used by Sluggo. This was the one I compared it to yrs ago and then let it go. I have to make my final approach - I am at the end of the runway. Pictures attached.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Webergeorger 264
QuoteQuoteobscure and meaningless.
Indeed. Like much (most? all?) of the other stuff.
We need to find another place to discuss this, where
Jo is not perrmited. Any ideas? I have files to post but
will not post them here.
Georgernigel99 599
Quote
I am Tina.
(it's the only thing the scriptwriters could come up with at this point)
(edit) And Jo, I'm sorry to hear about your niece. It sounds like a very tough situation for the kids. Hopefully people can rally for them.
No the scriptwriters decided that Georgers clear motive and defensive explosions prove beyond all reasonable doubt that Georger is Cooper.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.Orange1 0
Well, I personally have come to a decision not to bother opening any attachments unless the poster specifies what they are and what their relevance is (without hints teases blah blah).
Georger, the only thing I can think of is a password protected site but who is going to go the trouble of setting that up? I wouldn't even know where to start.
Moving on, here http://www.mcchordairmuseum.org/REV%20B%20OUR%20HISTORY%20%20MAF%20BASE%201970-1990.htm is a brief history of McChord from 1970 - 1990... it includes some notes on DB Cooper and also(I have probably seen it myself having flown in and out of SeaTac but was sadly unaware of its "relevance" at the time
377, you might find this page particulalry fun: http://www.mcchordairmuseum.org/REV%20B%20MAM%20COLLECTION%20AIRCRAFT.htmSkydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.Orange1 0
As an aside, I chuckled at this
QuoteA girls blouse is a girls blouse
Not sure if Americans are familiar with the expression.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a%20big%20girls%20blouse
and lol...i promise i didn't choose that dictionary because of the example they use, urbandictionary is generally the best source for slang!!
Jeremy Clarkson generally uses it as least once per Top Gear episode. Do you get Top Gear in the US? (Do you "get" Jeremy Clarkson...?)
ok, end of aside, unless we want to talk about the episode where they race the plane...Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.georger 264
QuoteWell, I personally have come to a decision not to bother opening any attachments unless the poster specifies what they are and what their relevance is (without hints teases blah blah).
Georger, the only thing I can think of is a password protected site but who is going to go the trouble of setting that up? I wouldn't even know where to start.
Moving on, here http://www.mcchordairmuseum.org/REV%20B%20OUR%20HISTORY%20%20MAF%20BASE%201970-1990.htm is a brief history of McChord from 1970 - 1990... it includes some notes on DB Cooper and also
377, you might find this page particulalry fun: http://www.mcchordairmuseum.org/REV%20B%20MAM%20COLLECTION%20AIRCRAFT.htm
I know of two previous Cooper discussion groups
where Jo Weber was not allowed. One was on Yahoo.
There may have been a third, a Forum - she was
not there for some reason.
There was another Forum with Snowman and others and Jo was not posting there, for some reason.
It comes down to what people want. But, there is
not going to be any true discussion of Cooper
with Weber there. That is a proven fact. And,
Weber has nothing to contribute. NOTHING. I wish
people could be convinced of that fact.
I am and others DO have things to contribute and
that is a fact. My comments about Ingram were an
opener. I am sorry Snowmman got so upset. I
was surprised at that.
We must get away from people who have strong
proprietary investments they cant get beyond if
there is going to be any real sharing and discussion.
But, I can't do this alone.
Georgergeorger 264
QuoteWell, I personally have come to a decision not to bother opening any attachments unless the poster specifies what they are and what their relevance is (without hints teases blah blah).
Georger, the only thing I can think of is a password protected site but who is going to go the trouble of setting that up? I wouldn't even know where to start.
Reply> Bottom line for me is I will not continue
here as it has been.
I did not come here for "Jo Weber", in the first place.
Weber has been here since 2005, I believe? What
has Jo Weber given in all that time beyond her own
story recited tirelessly ... who would put up with that?
Jo is correct in one aspect. I am Transparent.
Jo means this in a derogatory way. I mean it in
a Constructive way. Jo cannot afford to allow the
difference or Jo's whole case collapses like a figment.
The one thing Jo does not realise in her Murkiness,
is most people could care less about her case. Its
the entertainment value people are attracted to her
by. I guess Jo is the mascot here at Dropzone.
Good luck -
GeorgerOrange1 0
If you're really serious about leaving this forum - and like 377, I hope you don't (my reason being a need for counterbalance) - let us know via PM which one you migrate to..Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.georger 264
QuoteIf you're really serious about leaving this forum - and like 377, I hope you don't (my reason being a need for counterbalance) - let us know via PM which one you migrate to..
I dont see myself as central to a Cooper discussion.
As I see this, it will come down to a consensus of
what others want to do. It may even come down to
my being invited, or not, just like anyone else. I
would prefer it be that way. I have not PM'd anyone about this so far and no one has PM'd me about it.
I am "sure" others would want you there. So stay tuned, somebody may contact you. Just for the record, I consider just about everyone here at Dropzone a viable contributing person, except for one person. I thought we had a pretty good thing here for a while, but that obviously has been lost for me personally.
At some point somebody is going to have to contact
Ckret and see if he would be interested, on any basis.
I really hope something develops here we can all
live with and all be productive in - without any single agenda dominating (which includes mine!).
Georger
. The McChord museum looks fun and i would like to visit it should i ever find myself back at that end of the world...)
I am Tina.
(it's the only thing the scriptwriters could come up with at this point)
(edit) And Jo, I'm sorry to hear about your niece. It sounds like a very tough situation for the kids. Hopefully people can rally for them.
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