DB Cooper

[snowmman 3]

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The thing you seem unable to accept is that Ckret made no promises - well actually he did. He said this
was all temporary. He said this Forum was simply one
element of a larger plan. He doesn't owe you an
explanation in any event. And Ckret has superiors
who are also accountable and must review what a
Forum is accomplishing or not.

Oh yeah, that's all fair. I'm not criticizing his plan or lack of plan or whatever. He could just have been having fun, like us all, and that's good enough.

To be more direct though: He invested a year in his postings, almost. I think there could have been a better plan for the same energy investment. Remember he tied up a certain amount of TV time also. Have to evaluate whether his TV time was positive or negative. If it works against possible TV time in a better way in the future (americans get bored with same old, same old) then it was not the best thing....

Oh, reminds of one thing. 2008 was the 100th anniversary of the FBI. I always wondered if that played into the Cooper thing a bit: wouldn't it be cool to nail Cooper on the 100th anniversary? I think one thing with Carr is he hadn't sorted out what part of his Cooper investigation was about ego, what part about being a hobby, what part was about the FBI doing a real investigation, what part was just relieving boredom by posting on a DZ.com forum and fighting with folks with us.

re 2008:
In fact, if Cooper was alive, and wanted to say "here I am" or someone wanted to turn Cooper in, probably the worst time would be the year of the FBI's 100th anniversary...guaranteed the PR folks would spin it to Cooper's disadvantage.

Also the year of the outgoing terror presidency.

Surprised in Bush's last speech that he saw it necessary to try to convince the US that our biggest threat as a country was still terrorism. Hell we have lots of threats. Why didn't he go thru the top 20, instead of focusing on one?

I don't think the numbers add up that way re "terrorism". It would be interesting if they do. I've always wondered why people buy that terrorism-is-biggest-threat argument.

[snowmman 3]

georger said:

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I mean you Snowmman have said a thousand times
none of this really matters to you and you didnt even
mind if you were kicked off the forum, all in the very
midst of some people trying to do some credible
work here! That may be stylish and chic and in line
with brilliance, but it hardly the kind of thing the FBI
is going to hang its hat on.

heh...funny.
so you think style is important huh...i.e. it's important to shoot down the guy who acts like a jerk? Because you know what style will lead to a desired goal?

How about another judgment.

Who's got better results? Answer: none of us.

There's nothing you can show that says my behavior is inferior to anyone else's, in terms of achieving the goal.

Noodle on that!

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Georger,

I feel guilty basking in sun and 73 degress OAT today. If tough weather builds character no wonder we are so flaky in CA. Wonder why Cooper chose to do his caper in winter?

That Hudson landing was flat out amazing. I have heard that the pilot had a lot of glider experience, might have helped a lot. I am so thankful everyone got off with no injuries worse than a broken leg. Talk about a textbook perfect water ditching.

Reminds me of the one where JAL put a DC 8 into SF Bay, but that pilot thought he was on glide path for a runway landing when the plane lurched to a stop in the foggy bay. Everyone got out OK from that one. The DC 8 settled into the mud and did not submerge. JAL was on scene within hours painting over the company logos as every plane on approach to runway 28 at SFO flew right over the wreck.

Wonder if that US Air Airbus will ever fly again? I thought not on that JAL DC 8 but it was OH'd and took to the skies again. When Boeing's restored 307 Stratoliner ditched in Puget Sound a few years ago (pilot ran out of fuel) they raised it and restored it to flying condition.


http://tinyurl.com/6u522r


Georger, freezing winters, floods, hot humid summers... why not trade that for a longshot earthquake risk on the left coast?

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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I don't think the numbers add up that way re "terrorism". It would be interesting if they do. I've always wondered why people buy that terrorism-is-biggest-threat argument.

Agree 200% Snowmman. Obesity triggered diabetes is more of a national threat than terrorism. I laugh at these insurance policies that exclude terrorism and add a big premium if you want coverage. Hmm, lets add meteor strike and sinkhole submersion coverage too.

The Iraq Bush described last night doesnt match any reports that I have heard from military friends who have recently served there.

His immense personal pride in the fact that there have been no serious domestic terrorist attacks since 911 is misplaced. We haven't been attacked by space aliens either.

I disagreed with his Dad's policies, but could at least like him. After all, he skydives!!!

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[snowmman 3]

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I don't think the numbers add up that way re "terrorism". It would be interesting if they do. I've always wondered why people buy that terrorism-is-biggest-threat argument.

Agree 200% Snowmman. Obesity triggered diabetes is more of a national threat than terrorism. I laugh at these insurance policies that exclude terrorism and add a big premium if you want coverage. Hmm, lets add meteor strike and sinkhole submersion coverage too.

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Yeah, I probably made it sound too glib and don't mean to belittle it. I mean we are a country at war, and we've got young kids with deadly weapons firing and get fired at every day.
It'll be interesting how this Obama thing plays out.
Just having a new guy with new folks can be a good thing..i.e. ignore all the hype, and just think of it like hiring a new CEO who has the freedom to chainsaw a bunch of things.

Oh I was reading a good Rand corp paper on "estimating terrorism risk" ..2005 paper. 94 pages (there's a book too). They have a number of models. Obviously it leads to highest risk being in the dense urban environments.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2005/RAND_MG388.pdf

I've been reading how architects are looking at improving building design wrt terrorism etc also. It's actually good to see that "terrorism" can be thought of more rationally as just a thing that humans will always do, and we should design our systems to minimize the effect. It's not possible for it to go to zero.

You jumpers always deal with acceptable risk. Like everything, that's what we're really debating cost vs risk. Interesting no one's proposed outlawing airplanes.

I saw a thing that said the USAF is buying more unmanned UAV's than manned planes this? year.

There are lot of web sites where DIY'ers are building their own UAV helicopters and planes.

If Israel can't defend against Qassam rockets, how are people going to deal with 5000 helicopter UAVs sent in a swarm?

I see in the US they are testing helicopter UAVs that run using automobile engines or bigger!! massive payload capability in a UAV helicopter.

(edit) page 84 of the Rand paper, their recommendations:

"5. DHS should fund research to bridge the gap between terrorism risk assessment and resource allocation policies that are cost effective"

the other 4 recommendations are good too. like:

"1. DHS should consistently define terrorism risk in terms of expected annual consequences"

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***There are lot of web sites where DIY'ers are building their own UAV helicopters and planes.

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You can buy a GPS guided autopilot for RC type aircraft that will fly a preprogrammed mission profile including altitude changes and waypoint triggered payload drops for under $1500. Scary stuff. Hobbyists have flown a homemade model aircraft from Maine to the UK guided by such an autopilot. It reportedly landed within 50 feet of the programmed target.

If Cooper had GPS can you imagine how much easier his task would have been?

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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[georger 269]

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Georger,

I feel guilty basking in sun and 73 degress OAT today. If tough weather builds character no wonder we are so flaky in CA. Wonder why Cooper chose to do his caper in winter?

That Hudson landing was flat out amazing. I have heard that the pilot had a lot of glider experience, might have helped a lot. I am so thankful everyone got off with no injuries worse than a broken leg. Talk about a textbook perfect water ditching.

Reminds me of the one where JAL put a DC 8 into SF Bay, but that pilot thought he was on glide path for a runway landing when the plane lurched to a stop in the foggy bay. Everyone got out OK from that one. The DC 8 settled into the mud and did not submerge. JAL was on scene within hours painting over the company logos as every plane on approach to runway 28 at SFO flew right over the wreck.

Wonder if that US Air Airbus will ever fly again? I thought not on that JAL DC 8 but it was OH'd and took to the skies again. When Boeing's restored 307 Stratoliner ditched in Puget Sound a few years ago (pilot ran out of fuel) they raised it and restored it to flying condition.


http://tinyurl.com/6u522r


Georger, freezing winters, floods, hot humid summers... why not trade that for a longshot earthquake risk on the left coast?

377

This place gets in your blood. Only habitable place on Earth! (hee hee) The key is you are in the middle of
everything. If I had anything better I wouldnt have anything to bitch about, and bitching is important!

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I don't think the numbers add up that way re "terrorism". It would be interesting if they do. I've always wondered why people buy that terrorism-is-biggest-threat argument.

Agree 200% Snowmman. Obesity triggered diabetes is more of a national threat than terrorism. I laugh at these insurance policies that exclude terrorism and add a big premium if you want coverage. Hmm, lets add meteor strike and sinkhole submersion coverage too.

The Iraq Bush described last night doesnt match any reports that I have heard from military friends who have recently served there.

His immense personal pride in the fact that there have been no serious domestic terrorist attacks since 911 is misplaced. We haven't been attacked by space aliens either.

I disagreed with his Dad's policies, but could at least like him. After all, he skydives!!!

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Just think, you can say you survived Bush ... and
Clinton, and Bush, and Carter, Nixon, LBJ, .........
the only good Presidents weve had in my lifetime
are Truman, Ike, and Ford. Truman because his
daughter played the piano, Ford because he played
football, and Ike because he knew how to smile.

Obama is already off to a bad start. He wants to
replace steak with pineapple at Whitehouse dinners
and there is something fundamentally wrong with that.
Kind of like Jo's Salt Lake photo, as I see it!

G.

[georger 269]

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***There are lot of web sites where DIY'ers are building their own UAV helicopters and planes.

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You can buy a GPS guided autopilot for RC type aircraft that will fly a preprogrammed mission profile including altitude changes and waypoint triggered payload drops for under $1500. Scary stuff. Hobbyists have flown a homemade model aircraft from Maine to the UK guided by such an autopilot. It reportedly landed within 50 feet of the programmed target.

If Cooper had GPS can you imagine how much easier his task would have been?

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If Cooper had had GPS he probably would have thrown
it out saying "I dont need that", thinking "I have flares
and there is some trick involved in GPS and I cant
take that risk"...

G.

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[snowmman 3]

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***There are lot of web sites where DIY'ers are building their own UAV helicopters and planes.

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You can buy a GPS guided autopilot for RC type aircraft that will fly a preprogrammed mission profile including altitude changes and waypoint triggered payload drops for under $1500. Scary stuff. Hobbyists have flown a homemade model aircraft from Maine to the UK guided by such an autopilot. It reportedly landed within 50 feet of the programmed target.

If Cooper had GPS can you imagine how much easier his task would have been?

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If Cooper had had GPS he probably would have thrown
it out saying "I dont need that", thinking "I have flares
and there is some trick involved in GPS and I cant
take that risk"...

G.

:)
just made me think of something.
There is definitely a bias to the info the FBI releases to the public, which may work against finding Cooper.

I was surprised at the Cooper replies "I don't need that". I think Ckret provided two examples of Cooper saying that.

Why didn't the FBI highlight Cooper as a guy who says that? Heck that could be the thing that triggers someone's memory.

Even though Ckret believed he was breaking with the FBI past history on the Cooper case, I think if we analyze it "in totality" as Ckret liked to say, Ckret's actions were not much different than the FBI approach for the last 37 years.

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Every skydiver who jumped rounds in winds has stories about how they got back to the DZ without snagging their gear on barbed wire. An old timer told me just forget about trying to climb over it in your gear. Throw your gear over it and traverse it gearless, its the ONLY way. That's what I did.

Not just rounds. At the first DZ I jumped at, just about everyone landed on the wrong side of the barb wire fence at some stage. My excuse was a SL jump when I didn't do the spot, to be fair to the JM though the wind at 3K was 90 degrees to the wind on the ground and I was the first person to jump that day...

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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***There are lot of web sites where DIY'ers are building their own UAV helicopters and planes.

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You can buy a GPS guided autopilot for RC type aircraft that will fly a preprogrammed mission profile including altitude changes and waypoint triggered payload drops for under $1500. Scary stuff. Hobbyists have flown a homemade model aircraft from Maine to the UK guided by such an autopilot. It reportedly landed within 50 feet of the programmed target.

If Cooper had GPS can you imagine how much easier his task would have been?

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If Cooper had had GPS he probably would have thrown
it out saying "I dont need that", thinking "I have flares
and there is some trick involved in GPS and I cant
take that risk"...

G.

:)
just made me think of something.
There is definitely a bias to the info the FBI releases to the public, which may work against finding Cooper.

I was surprised at the Cooper replies "I don't need that". I think Ckret provided two examples of Cooper saying that.

Why didn't the FBI highlight Cooper as a guy who says that? Heck that could be the thing that triggers someone's memory.

Even though Ckret believed he was breaking with the FBI past history on the Cooper case, I think if we analyze it "in totality" as Ckret liked to say, Ckret's actions were not much different than the FBI approach for the last 37 years.

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Sluggo demonstrated, there have been many sp
agents in charge of the Cooper case through the years - each with a different personality and approach. It's like any other large organisation;
lots of diversity within. The FBI is not a monolithic culture of clones.

When Sluggo said there was a 'missing link'
in the Cooper case, I think his remark assumed
the FBI had already applied good and diverse
methods trying to dig up facts and solve this case.
That something in this case was defying even the FBI.

There are some extremely smart and experienced
people in the FBI who have applied themselves to this case and come up short, and it is NOT a
management issue.

People in this forum have made progress - dont kid
yourslf that has not happened. We all know far more
tonight than we knew 9 months ago, and some of this is very specific, and some yet to be released via
Tom and others. Several people are writing books which have the potential to be credible -

We also know more about the Jo Weber case than ever before. The Forum may not have investigative probity but it has not been a waste of time. I come down on Jo for one reason: because I am searching. I am not a heartless son-of-a-bitch, just the opposite I am usually too lax. (Ckret picked up on that in me right away, the first week!)

I wonder if any of us had been put in charge of this case, would the results have been any different?

As well as bailing into the night, Cooper also bailed
into history. The process of history tends to cover, cloud, and muddy things over. The FBI is as much
up against that as we here are.

G.

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georger asked:
"I wonder if any of us had been put in charge of this case, would the results have been any different?"

Okay, trying to put myself back in 1971, with 1971 attitudes, knowledge etc.

It seems to me, that the most important failure was assuming the predicted DZ was correct, when really the [lack of] precision of their knowledge should have made them keep a wider area open (all the way down to the Columbia)

But then there was a secondary failure in 1980: this idea of promoting a money-travels-a-long-way-in-a-stream theory...with no proof or experiment showing that such a thing could ever occur.

If those two things had been handled differently, the public might have responded with information in a different way, or the investigation could have gone a different way.

Also, by 1972, the other 4 hijack jumpers should have steered the case to saying "regardless of how Cooper appeared to behave, the probabilities favor that he survived". So while there's no data to say he survived, we should have published the statistical likelihood of survival to the public. Since that's the best way to get info in case he did survive.

So there are 3 main things that "someone else" could have done differently.

There was no benefit to solving the case, of publishing "it's likely he's dead". Doesn't matter what's true, that's just a reality of getting info from the public.

Imagine if Bin Laden stopped issuing releases, and they published "Bin Laden is dead". Would that benefit Bin Laden? or those looking for him?

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georger asked:
"I wonder if any of us had been put in charge of this case, would the results have been any different?"

Okay, trying to put myself back in 1971, with 1971 attitudes, knowledge etc.

It seems to me, that the most important failure was assuming the predicted DZ was correct, when really the [lack of] precision of their knowledge should have made them keep a wider area open (all the way down to the Columbia)

But then there was a secondary failure in 1980: this idea of promoting a money-travels-a-long-way-in-a-stream theory...with no proof or experiment showing that such a thing could ever occur.

If those two things had been handled differently, the public might have responded with information in a different way, or the investigation could have gone a different way.

Also, by 1972, the other 4 hijack jumpers should have steered the case to saying "regardless of how Cooper appeared to behave, the probabilities favor that he survived". So while there's no data to say he survived, we should have published the statistical likelihood of survival to the public. Since that's the best way to get info in case he did survive.

So there are 3 main things that "someone else" could have done differently.

There was no benefit to solving the case, of publishing "it's likely he's dead". Doesn't matter what's true, that's just a reality of getting info from the public.

Imagine if Bin Laden stopped issuing releases, and they published "Bin Laden is dead". Would that benefit Bin Laden? or those looking for him?

Reply> Along the same line, things that fall
inert leave an impact crater. No effort was made
immediately following the hijack to look for signs
of an impact or a landing, in spite of the technology and thousands of well-trained WWII veterans to do it. The cost would have been minimal.

Given the large area of uncertainty arial photography
would have helped.

We covered this briefly before -

G.

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Another detail about the photo is it doesnt seem to fit the date (era) she is claiming it was taken in.
It looks older than what she is claiming. Its a very crappy photo done with a crappy camera - brownie 620 from the 60's? It could be a photo of anyone or any thing. She may know or not know, and not care.

Georger I have other things to do right now and the most important is my health, but I will tell you- that you are totally out of line. I did take that photo in 1979 in SLC. I don't remember which camera I took it with. It is right there with all of my other photos, carefully put into albums all dated and I have the negative. NO WILD GOOSE CHASE.
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She places no value on other people's
time"

I give credit due where credit is due - if someone gets upset because I complain about a mistake made in a post this is their problem, I appreciate all that certain individuals have done. I am not the best with words, but I don't have the time to be nice and play games.

All of you know how I feel about dates and other things being accurate when they are referring to me or to Duane. If I hurt anyone's feeling over that - I am sorry.
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I didn't even notice the title on her photo until yesterday: "Before Hair Transplant". Its funny
we all missed that, including Snowmman!

Took you long enough didn't it?

Georger - you and your THEORY, THEORY - a few post back. I let it go, but you got my dander up right now and I am going to give you the ULITMATE insult - you are sounding more and more like me with some of your posts.

See What Happens When You Don't Have All of The Picture. Photo attached...

Georger, remember making a statement about people in SLC didn't like to have their picture taken - better check out my pictures from SLC. Alos look deep into the background look very hard - around the fountain.

The mystery man was a very small portion of this photo - you can see the tip of his brief case. Missing are the 1st three frames - the negatives Duane asked me about. As I said many pages back - I searched thru 50 yrs of photo negatives - these are the only frames missing in 50 yrs of picture taking. This was the only time Duane asked me what I did with the negatives.

Maybe I already know who it was.
Do you?

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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I didn't even notice the title on her photo until yesterday: "Before Hair Transplant". Its funny
we all missed that, including Snowmman!

Took you long enough didn't it?

Reply> Glad you think that.

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Jo, it's no good publishing 72KB images and asking people to look at them. The resolution isn't fine enough.

When you do you your scanning, you can keep it at 300dpi, but adjust the jpeg compression so the final image file size is as large as possible for posting..i.e. just under the 300KB limit for an attachment here at DZ.com.

If the image is still too big, try 150 or 200 dpi then.

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" searched thru 50 yrs of photo negatives - these are the only frames missing in 50 yrs of picture taking"

I can't conceive of anyone in the world being able to say stuff like that. It's quite amazing. I literally forget what I did yesterday. I just found some pictures in an envelope and while I remember taking them I was surprised they were prints rather than digital images. Now would I have a clue how many prints or negatives there should be?

No way. and they were from just 6 years ago?

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Maybe I already know who it was.
Do you?

Maybe no-one CARES who it was. Certainly you've been told time and again by just about everyone else on the forum that these "teasers", which never lead anywhere or lead to completely insignificant things, just irritate people. But if I had to guess I'd say it was the victim of some typical petty criminal act of Duane's.

What is the significance of the "before hair transplant" thing? The guy could have been blackmailed because hair transplants are against his religion? Duane wanted to start a hair transplant clinic and this was his first "before" picture? It was Elvis gone bald when he went into hiding after having faked his death and the chevrons showed membership of a "mojo rising rock stars in hiding" club? What?

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Maybe I already know who it was.
Do you?

Maybe no-one CARES who it was. Certainly you've been told time and again by just about everyone else on the forum that these "teasers", which never lead anywhere or lead to completely insignificant things, just irritate people. But if I had to guess I'd say it was the victim of some typical petty criminal act of Duane's.

What is the significance of the "before hair transplant" thing? The guy could have been blackmailed because hair transplants are against his religion? Duane wanted to start a hair transplant clinic and this was his first "before" picture? It was Elvis gone bald when he went into hiding after having faked his death and the chevrons showed membership of a "mojo rising rock stars in hiding" club? What?

Ah yes... another episode of "secret people" with "secret names" doing "secret things".

This time, the answer is obvious.

It's Wilson. Ever watch the Tim Allen show?

He was the neighbor that stood behind the fence
and you didn't see much of him. Here's the proof.
It's the hat. Wilson wore the hat because of the
hair transplant.

So, I'm going to call this guy Wilson.

Instead of running down the bunny trails, hippity-hoppity and wasting my time... I'm naming them
as they appear. Until someone proves me wrong,
I will conclude that I am correct. We can move on now.

Jo knows more invisible people than a Druid priest.

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No, I don't know Tim Allen or Wilson.
But this guy was the key to solving the case, right?
so Cooper is Wilson??

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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No, I don't know Tim Allen or Wilson.
But this guy was the key to solving the case, right?
so Cooper is Wilson??

Comedian Tim Allen starred as "Tim the Tool Man Taylor" on the tv show Tool Time.
Wilson was the neighbor who was always peering over the fence, but you never saw his face.

Wilson was an older man. Approximately the correct
age to be DBC.

Call the FBI. We can all go home now.

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well, all I can contribute, is that I think I was in SLC 3 times in my life, although it's fuzzy. I remember one was winter. One was probably summer cause I remember the big lake, and how weird it was that there was heavy industrial stuff off in the distance that marred the view.

I don't remember pictures taken in detail, but I do remember a Ford Escort rental car: manual transmission. I think red?

With respect to hair transplants, my biology teacher in high school got some and liked to show everyone in class. Pretty nasty: was the plugs.

His wife was cute and flirted with all the high school lacrosse players. She taught the speech class.

Just trying to help. Use this info as it applies.

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well, all I can contribute, is that I think I was in SLC 3 times in my life, although it's fuzzy. I remember one was winter. One was probably summer cause I remember the big lake, and how weird it was that there was heavy industrial stuff off in the distance that marred the view.

I don't remember pictures taken in detail, but I do remember a Ford Escort rental car: manual transmission. I think red?

With respect to hair transplants, my biology teacher in high school got some and liked to show everyone in class. Pretty nasty: was the plugs.

His wife was cute and flirted with all the high school lacrosse players. She taught the speech class.

Just trying to help. Use this info as it applies.

I was in SLC once too, and my photos (pre digital, and I have no idea where the negatives are) happen to be to hand. I have a photo of what in Jo's pic is entitled "Assembly Hall", though I have it labelled as the Mormon Tabernacle Choir Hall. (If that is the one with the amazing acoustics then I am pretty sure I would have labelled it right. But it was nearly 20 years ago now and I can't say for sure, my memory not being as fantastic as some other people's evidently are. I can however remember the camera I took it with, it was an Olympus 35mm point & shoot.) Should I blow up the photo and post it here to see who we can see in the foreground?

I did my "big tour" of the US that year. Other stops therefore included Seattle as well as Florida. I'm very sorry to report I was flying Delta and not Northwest around the country though, because otherwise I could have concluded that I am... somehow involved in the case, because I was travelling to all these significant places. Oh yes, I did actually visit the FBI in D.C. as well (to do the tour), nothing like being right under their noses to throw them off!

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Orange1 said:
"Should I blow up the photo and post it here to see who we can see in the foreground?"

well obviously since you didn't, there must be incriminating info in it.

An LDS temple was built in Johannesburg in 1985. It was the first in S.A.

picture here:
http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/johannesburg/

I find it a little too coincidental that we then find Orange1 taking pictures in SLC of the temples there, with unnamed people in them. With a Olympus 35mm? Possibly soon after the construction in Johannesburg?

Why would Orange1 remember the camera? The photos were obviously important for some reason not-to-be-disclosed.

Olympus Minox was a common "spy" camera.
I used to have an Olympus XA which was pretty small for the times.
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Olympus_XA

Why does Orange1 try to dismiss her camera as point-and-shoot? was it an XA? or maybe a Olympus Minox spy camera? What is she hiding? Maybe it was specially modified to shoot half-frames?

Does Orange1 have a picture of the Chevron Man at the temple in Johannesburg? If so, does the coverup extend there?

The distance between SLC and Johannesburg is 9957 miles. Given that the circumference of the earth is about 24900 miles, the maximum distance between any two places can be only about 12000 miles. So SLC is pretty close to "the farthest Orange1 could go".

Why would she go so far? Was she trying to hide something? Twenties? Photos? ???

And Orange1 has never mentioned this tidbit before, even though it obviously relates to the evidence Jo has supplied? Why now?

Hmm. Must consult Keynes again.