FLYJACK 782 #66276 9 hours ago 15 minutes ago, lxchilton said: Here's my incredibly detailed and precise example of why sitting is bad for judging height: The inverted triangles are, from top to bottom: head, torso, legs. Exaggerated of course! All of these triangle people are the same height but if the first sits down he's going to look shorter than the other two. Seems like Cooper might have been more like our small torso triangle man and if he was slumping over the whole time... So what... I said it is less reliable.. It doesn't prove Cooper's actual height in the context of all the evidence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 782 #66277 9 hours ago (edited) 43 minutes ago, lxchilton said: Ultimately, all I am saying (and I am not a part of some cabal of Cooper people) is that since there are so many unknowns in this case I am choosing to narrow down the likelihood of a suspect using a different set of criteria than you. I am not arguing the validity of yours to your own self, I am just a little put off by choosing so narrow a focus on what appears to me to be one of the areas least likely to achieve a positive result. It's...interesting to begin with and the fact that your two choices to back it up/argue for it are 1) being abrasive and 2) refusing to actually back anything up in an argument about how others are misusing facts is wild. And boring, in the end. How do you rationalize your assertion that people who are not privy to the hijacking are less reliable than those who are? When we get into unreliable witness testimony we are almost always talking about people who knew they were witness to a crime. After years of this,, I have no patience left for stupid arguments and the persistent disrespectful comments and especially people twisting my argument into something it isn't... and some are attacking me personally thinking that elevates their position.. they have done this for years because they don't have a rational argument. I am respectful to those who are respectful.. some aren't worthy. I have laid out the facts, you and others just ignore it in favour of your own opinion.. My argument is clear,, Cooper could be 5-9 or 5-11... based on the evidence. Yours is. under 5-10 is an outlier or dispositive... THAT is INSANE based on the evidence and a product of Ryan's influence. It is self evident that believing you are observing a hijacker would stick in your memory better than some random person in a crowd or served in a line of possibly hundreds..... and Tina, the only one who saw Cooper standing briefly in the dark knowing he was the hijacker had 5-10" as the lower bound... We don't know if she was still seated or face to face with him.. or how that went down.... a freaking 1/2" from 5-9.5",,, INSANE... Almost 10 witnesses had Hahneman at 5-11 or 6 feet standing and knowing he was a hijacker... So, this standing accuracy thing is complete BS... it is an assumption that fails in reality.. The FBI issued a memo to agents TO NOT ELIMINATE based on height to 5' 8".. So, once again my position matches the FBI but I am attacked... YES, all of you are wrong.. Stick to it... with that level of analysis you guys are going nowhere... fast Think for yourself.... don't follow these guys,, Edited 8 hours ago by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 782 #66278 9 hours ago and I just found a third very famous guitar... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 574 #66279 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: and I just found a third very famous guitar... then perhaps you should continue sticking with musical instruments Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 782 #66280 8 hours ago (edited) 22 minutes ago, olemisscub said: then perhaps you should continue sticking with musical instruments This is the juvenile passive aggressive BS that I have been subjected to... for sharing the same view as the FBI Ryan's personal animus for having his opinion questioned. Ryan attacks for me for not sharing my research, wonder why... Some of you aren't worthy.. Edited 8 hours ago by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lxchilton 8 #66281 8 hours ago 39 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: and I just found a third very famous guitar... JOKE INCOMING We should all argue about what make/model the guitar is based on witness descriptions of the scale length! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 782 #66282 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, lxchilton said: JOKE INCOMING We should all argue about what make/model the guitar is based on witness descriptions of the scale length! Not funny,, but this is a really big one,,,, Nashville.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lxchilton 8 #66283 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: Not funny,, but this is a really big one,,,, Nashville.. Too soon?! Electric or acoustic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 782 #66284 8 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, lxchilton said: Too soon?! Electric or acoustic? Acoustic from the 50's.. the two previous were electric.. I don't know how this one will will pan out, the player is dead... The other two were reunited with their previous owners.. Ryan chose to take a dig at me... If one of his elves had found three famous guitars he would be praising them.... Edited 8 hours ago by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lxchilton 8 #66285 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: Acoustic from the 50's.. the two previous were electric.. I don't know how this one will will pan out, the player is dead... The other two were reunited with their previous owners.. Here's hoping it's an SJ/J-200. I still think the scale length joke wasn't terrible. Good luck with the guitar! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 782 #66286 7 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, lxchilton said: Here's hoping it's an SJ/J-200. I still think the scale length joke wasn't terrible. Good luck with the guitar! NO, Martin D18... I don't really discuss guitar stuff here because it is a Cooper forum but the second one is now public... I found Neil Young's first guitar from high school, an orange 6120 Gretsch he sold in 1965 to go acoustic... He regretted it and always wanted it back.. he replaced it in Buffalo Springfield with another orange Gretsch,,, Randy gave him my number and he called me, I gave him all the details and proof, he obtained it within hours,,, He is playing Mr Soul on it for his current tour.. FB Video.. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EGihHxWw9/ Edited 7 hours ago by FLYJACK 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haggarknew 5 #66287 7 hours ago 33 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: NO, Martin D18... I don't really discuss guitar stuff here because it is a Cooper forum but the second one is now public... I found Neil Young's first guitar from high school, an orange 6120 Gretsch he sold in 1965 to go acoustic... He regretted it and always wanted it back.. he replaced it in Buffalo Springfield with another orange Gretsch,,, Randy gave him my number and he called me, I gave him all the details and proof, he obtained it within hours,,, He is playing Mr Soul on it for his current tour.. FB Video.. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EGihHxWw9/ Pretty freakin COOL !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites