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8 hours ago, olemisscub said:

You’re wrong. This is privileged information, so I can’t actually reveal it yet. My book publishers have advised me not to reveal it. 

So, who cares.. you have a history of conflating and distorting evidence and elevating assumptions to facts.. 

Tina showing Cooper how to use the stairs does not mean he used them correctly, he was alone when he used the stairs.. Your claim is bogus.

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The erosion here occurred before these bills fanned out. (Tom theorized that the fanning was from rolling along the bottom)

The fanning occurred before the bills stuck together.. 

That supports Palmer's conclusion that the erosion was from tumbling along the bottom..

The money eroded by rolling/tumbling along the bottom and fanned out before landing on TBAR.

 

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I think getting the stairs to work is likely more about expectations than not being able to work a simple lever. Cooper had just walked up the fully descended stairs. I think it’s reasonable to assume he thought the stairs would fully deploy. I’d think the stairs were fully hydraulic and not gravity going down.
 

So Cooper uses the lever but the stairs don’t go all the way down so he thinks something is wrong and we get the whole interphone episode. Eventually he figures out his weight is going to be enough for him to exit and everything “is good now.”  

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3 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

So, who cares.. you have a history of conflating and distorting evidence and elevating assumptions to facts.. 

Tina showing Cooper how to use the stairs does not mean he used them correctly, he was alone when he used the stairs.. Your claim is bogus.

lol how are you still not getting this?

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Sure, expectations play a role.. but he was successful eventually.

The stairs are hydraulic assist or gravity drop depending how you operate the lever.

The evidence indicates the stair light went on twice,, that can only happen if the lever was put back into the uplock detent. That light goes on when the lever is moved from the uplock detent, not when the stairs are opened. So, when the light first went on that does not indicate the stairs were actually open.

Also, Mac got out at 100mph faster albeit a small opening.

The sled test had no problem with the stairs staying up due to speed.

 

The takeaway is that the speed wasn't the real issue for Cooper having trouble getting them open.. That was the perception.

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16 minutes ago, olemisscub said:

lol how are you still not getting this?

Who cares, what you claim to have is very insignificant and irrelevant.. 

What I have is one of the biggest advancements in many years.. you would take it and use in your book, 100%, it would get blasted in the media and take the case in a different direction.. A legitimate game changer.

You are playing a false equivalency.

Keep your little insignificant info to yourself... keep everything you have,, save it for your book that might be out in 10 years.

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10 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

Who cares, what you claim to have is very insignificant and irrelevant.. 

What I have is one of the biggest advancements in many years.. you would take it and use in your book, 100%, it would get blasted in the media and take the case in a different direction.. A legitimate game changer.

You are playing a false equivalency.

Keep your little insignificant info to yourself... keep everything you have,, save it for your book that might be out in 10 years.

What I’m doing is indeed quite aggravating, isn’t it?

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5 minutes ago, olemisscub said:

What I’m doing is indeed quite aggravating, isn’t it?

No, it is juvenile actually.

It is not the same since I told you what I had, just not sharing it for a legit reason. Further, it wasn't even needed for that debate, it was extraneous.

You claim to have something you can't explain in an attempt to make a point.

These are not the same, not equivalent in importance or substance.

I don't care what you have, I don't think I have learned anything significant in this case from you.. it would make no difference if I never heard from you on anything ever again.

There is no way you could know for a fact what Cooper did with the lever, not even from a rare Tina interview.

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2 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

No, it is juvenile actually.

It is not the same since I told you what I had, just not sharing it for a legit reason. Further, it wasn't even needed for that debate, it was extraneous.

You claim to have something you can't explain in an attempt to make a point.

These are not the same, not equivalent in importance or substance.

I don't care what you have, I don't think I have learned anything significant in this case from you.. it would make no difference if I never heard from you on anything ever again.

There is no way you could know for a fact what Cooper did with the lever, not even from a rare Tina interview.

You’ve not learned anything of significance from anyone in this case because only your preconceived notions and conclusions can be correct. 

And you’re wrong, what I have is game changing as well. I also have an image of Cooper. It absolutely indicates that Comp A is the better sketch… You and everyone else in the Vortex just have to trust me. My publishers won’t let me release it though. It’s simply too important. 

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2 hours ago, olemisscub said:

You’ve not learned anything of significance from anyone in this case because only your preconceived notions and conclusions can be correct. 

And you’re wrong, what I have is game changing as well. I also have an image of Cooper. It absolutely indicates that Comp A is the better sketch… You and everyone else in the Vortex just have to trust me. My publishers won’t let me release it though. It’s simply too important. 

Olemiss, when will your book be published.  I'll be very happy to buy one of the first copies.

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2 hours ago, olemisscub said:

You’ve not learned anything of significance from anyone in this case because only your preconceived notions and conclusions can be correct. 

And you’re wrong, what I have is game changing as well. I also have an image of Cooper. It absolutely indicates that Comp A is the better sketch… You and everyone else in the Vortex just have to trust me. My publishers won’t let me release it though. It’s simply too important. 

You are the biggest waste of time..

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