FLYJACK 760 #61426 August 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, georger said: Well.... tell that to WSHM etal ! Lets put you in charge of collecting all dna. How has WSHM been storing-protecting the chute etc ? Its a little late to be concerned about contamination! You know you are wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 527 #61427 August 7, 2023 A better use for the museum chute is to apply sticky stubs to it and let Kaye analyze them. There is some thought that the tie particles may be from jet exhaust from the stairs being down for 3 hours. Museum chute would be exposed to same particles as the tie in that scenario and thus would have similar particles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 258 #61428 August 7, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: You know you are wrong. stupid! What do you know I know I am wrong about ? Flapjacks and Elephants ? Toothpaste and sweet corn? You always have a moral lesson for everyone, you compete with! Do you compete with the bears and moose there in BC, your Majesty ? Edited August 7, 2023 by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61429 August 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, georger said: stupid! What do you know I know I am wrong about ? Flapjacks and Elephants ? Toothpaste and sweet corn? You always have a moral lesson for everyone, you compete with! Do you compete with the bears and moose there in BC, your Majesty ? Of course you know you are wrong.. potentially contaminating an important source of evidence goes against everything you have complained about for years.. don't be ridiculous. More science.. It is like opposite George.. Edited August 7, 2023 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 258 #61430 August 9, 2023 On 8/7/2023 at 3:38 PM, FLYJACK said: Of course you know you are wrong.. potentially contaminating an important source of evidence goes against everything you have complained about for years.. don't be ridiculous. More science.. It is like opposite George.. OK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61431 August 9, 2023 99.9% probability the museum chute is a 26'.. Confirming it or even finding a 28' canopy is completely irrelevant to this case. The potential forensic value is immeasurable. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61432 August 9, 2023 The Amboy chute is NOT Cooper's regardless of Cossey's nonsense. The serial number on the card found on the plane for the missing back chute is #60-9707 July, 1960... The Amboy chute serial number is 307551 Feb 21, 1946 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 258 #61433 August 13, 2023 (edited) On 8/9/2023 at 9:54 AM, FLYJACK said: 99.9% probability the museum chute is a 26'.. Confirming it or even finding a 28' canopy is completely irrelevant to this case. The potential forensic value is immeasurable. Evidence in the Cooper case is a political issue - pure and simple - always has been = always will be. People have to make decisions and act on them. Edited August 13, 2023 by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61434 August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, georger said: Evidence in the Cooper case is a political issue - pure and simple - always has been = always will be. People have to make decisions and act on them. Not always. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 258 #61435 August 13, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: Not always. OK then you start giving instructions to ................. whomever .................... and start collecting new evidence. YOU ARE IN CHARGE! The Cooper Cam goes off in five days for maint and wont be back on until .. December after CC23 at Seattle or Deli or Beijing, whatever it is! Edited August 13, 2023 by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CooperNWO305 158 #61436 August 16, 2023 For those not on Facebook, there was a good discussion on two of the flight paths. Eric did the Western one and Chris the Air Force aka FBI one, as it’s called I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 55 #61437 August 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, Slim King said: Well I'm not on FBIbook but I'd love to read it .. Can you cut and paste the highlights? Thanks!!! Just wondered if they talked about the normal flight path from Seattle to Reno? There are two "normal" flight paths between the Seattle VORTAC, which is located on the SEATAC airport, and the BattleGround VORTAC, which was known as the Portland VORTAC in 1971. The airliner was supposed to be generally following the V-23 airway that was a dog leg shaped route with change in direction at the MALAY Intersection, which was known as the Mayfield Intersection in 1971. The other flight path is a direct route between the SEATAC airport and the present-day Battleground VORTAC. In 1971, this route was known as V-23E but it is now known as V-495. The distance between the Seattle VORTAC and the Battleground VORTAC is 105 nautical miles along the V-23 centerline and 102 nautical miles along the V-23E (V-495) centerline. In the flight towards Reno, the airliner was told by Seattle Air Traffic Control that they were free to make any deviations from V-23 that they needed to do, and that the ATC people would keep other aircraft out of their way. Consequently, they were not required to stay on the centerline of V-23 and apparently did not do so. Their main deviation, and the most logical one, would be to bypass the Portland area on the west side in order to avoid flying over the Portland population center with a bomb on board and a nutcase that was unpredictable. More detailed analysis of this flight path has been posted on this site and Shutter's site over the years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61438 August 16, 2023 Ted Braden military file shows height is 5' 7".. I believe military records are measuring barefoot height... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 527 #61439 August 17, 2023 He may have grown an inch or so after that measurement since he was just 16 when it was taken. Ted was absolutely bad to the bone. Three Bronze Stars and Two Purple Hearts all aged 16. He didn't turn 17 until September 1945, so AFTER the war was over. I found this excerpt online a while back on a 101st Airborne site. Talks about how Ted used to crawl out at night during the Bulge and wait to ambush two Germans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 527 #61440 August 17, 2023 On 9/14/2022 at 9:45 PM, Coopericane said: Do we have a list of every known suspect who's DNA has been tested? In addition to Peterson, I think Weber's and L. D. Cooper's was too, if I'm not mistaken... Petey, Langseth, Gossett, LD, and Weber. They collected samples of KC’s DNA from his brother but no sign that they ever tested it. They tried to get DNA from a few of Arthur Derham’s belongings, but they couldn’t recover any and, presumably because he was a shit suspect to begin with, they didn’t press the point and try and get more. They wanted McCoy DNA and a Salt Lake City agent contacted Karen McCoy about it. She said it wasn’t her problem if they couldn’t solve a 30-year old hijacking and hung up. They also wanted Catalano’s DNA, but there is no evidence they actually pursued it. Perhaps it’s in his subject file, which I’ve FOIA’d. They approved the request, so maybe in a decade we’ll see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 527 #61441 August 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Slim King said: Walter Peca's DNA ......No one tested it did they??????? of course not. May as well test my DNA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61442 August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Slim King said: Did you jump in Seattles closest jump center? Were you qualified for night jumps? Did you know Cossey and several others at the jump center? Did you live in Washington? Did you end up working for black ops? Did you buy a new car and a home in the following months? Were you in contact with the FBI in 2008? Where friends of yours murdered from the jump center? Did you confess before you died? You are so funny!!!!!!!!! When did Reca live in Washington State,, the exact dates... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 527 #61443 August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Slim King said: Did you end up working for black ops? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61444 August 18, 2023 Just now, Slim King said: You really have no clue do you? Why are you afraid to answer the question. Is it because you know the answer.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61445 August 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Slim King said: I am not afraid in the slightest. But People who are ignorant of the facts need to realize their ignorance. I won't spoon feed you information that is readily available. Are you calling me ignorant? I know the claims. He left his family in Mi after the robbery. I am just trying to confirm something. The precise dates he was in Wa vs Mi. Your evasiveness and refusal to answer confirms everything about the Reca narrative.. Clearly, you are afraid to commit to an answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 55 #61446 August 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Slim King said: Brainwashed concept .. The flight flew the normal rout to Reno. There is no solid proof they deviated from the norm in any way. If so ... Let's see it. And not just a bunch of FBI mish mash... Real evidence that they diverted from the normal V2 flight path. Slim King, if you are going to solve the mysteries of life you need to start paying attention to the evidence. Otherwise, you are just putting out bullshit. If you are actually interested in how the airliner got from Seattle to Reno all you have to do is read the Seattle ATC and Oakland ATC radio transcripts. The Seattle transcripts are heavily redacted, but the Oakland transcripts are classic air traffic control communications. The Oakland ATC transcripts explain in plain English how and when the airliner got from V-23 to Reno. You should give some consideration to determining what you are talking about before posting nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61447 August 18, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Slim King said: If you haven't read any books about Walter then you will be perpetually IN THE DARK ... You need to educate yourself. Walter was a welder on a construction site (A Dam) and lived in a small town in Washington. The company that hired him is a known CIA cutout. He broke a leg in the landing. The Dr. at the company said it was an old injury. It's all in the books and video's. It's all documented. I know the claim about working on the dam... That isn't my question.. You claimed he lived in Wa State, you are the Reca expert here,, when exactly did he leave his family in Mi to go to Wa and when exactly did he return to Mi.. This should be very simple for you to answer.. Stop dodging and answer the question. The claim.. In 1965 Peca was caught for the Big Boy Robbery in Mi. On bail/bond he ditches his family and goes to Wa.. changes his name to Reca. He is extradited back to Mi and receives probation. He returns to his pregnant girlfriend in Wa... Works at Dam Jan 1971 Later, in 1972 he ends up back in Mi. So, exactly when did he first flee to Wa after the 1965 Big Boy deal.. Exactly when was he extradited back to MI.. and when did he return to Wa after being given probation. Edited August 18, 2023 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 55 #61448 August 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Slim King said: You need to dig deeper to see the truth. Anyone can write a transcript under duress. NO ONE ever saw that plane fly over the most populated area of Washington AND they sent out several planes to spot it. Not a single eye witness to the claims of V23. PLUS there is absolutely NO REASON not to take the normal route out over the unpopulated area of the state. I lived near the summit ... The pass is only 3022 feet. https://summitatsnoqualmie.com/ That's about 6,978 feet lower than the 10,000 requested. Instead you want me to believe that after the FBI expert told them that the hijacker was going to blow up the plane they would change course and take it over the most densely populated areas, Tacoma. Olympia, (the Capita) four or five more cities on that route and then Vancouver and PORTLAND!!!!!! ?????? Millions of people at risk .... Or just fly the normal route. These are the same Corrupt FBI that covered up the Kennedy assassinations and MLK juniors murder in the 8 years leading up to this. Look at the map and tell me how far Oakland was from Portland.. Around 500 or 600 miles????? Why do you think the Seattle transcripts are so redacted? Slim King, you simply don't know what you are talking about. I have also lived close to the Snoqualmie Pass and driven over it. And the airliner was never in that area. The 10,000 feet altitude requested was also the Minimum Obstacle Clearance Altitude and the Minimum Reception Altitude for V-23 in the flight south from Seattle. That means if the airliner were lower than 10,000 feet, there is a possibility of flying into a mountain and/or not being able to receive the radio stations that were necessary for navigation and communicating with air traffic control. I think that the Seattle radio transcripts are redacted because I have read them and know what type of information that is missing from them. As I have pointed out repeatedly before, just compare the Seattle transcripts with the Oakland transcripts and you should be able to see the difference also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemisscub 527 #61449 August 18, 2023 Some actual Cooper news. Brian has given Tom some never before seen "virgin" Cooper cash that has not seen the light of day in decades. This little stack of cash is made up of many layers of bills that are essentially stuck together. Tom is going to peel them apart and test the middles for any sediment or soil. The idea being that if the cash was exposed to water before it was buried, the bills would become water logged and stuck together at that time, making it unlikely for any sediment to reach the middle of those bills. On the flip side, if they were buried BEFORE becoming wet, then presumably you'd find sediment in the middle. He has also stated that he believes he has evidence now to show that they arrived at TB in a bundled condition and that he'll reveal this at CC. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 760 #61450 August 18, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Slim King said: Yes ... You seem to have the story line in tow.... What was the exact date of your first French kiss? Do you have photo evidence of it? That's just crazy right? You have the time line and it's published in several books ... Also in addition to I have access to three books that are not in print although I think one is currently purchasable from Amazon. The questions you ask are answered in these book but you haven't read them. So you waste my time here. Believing the FBI is your biggest mistake. They LIE!!!!! Why are you being so difficult.. this should be simple for you. Trying to establish a more accurate timeline,, 1965 Big Boy robbery.. ?? jumps Bond,, assume shortly after robbery 1965/66 ?? abandons family, travels around ?? settles in Wa ?? extradited to Wi, given parole, goes back to his pregnant girlfriend in Wa Jan 1971 works at Dam in Wa 1972 returns to Wi What are those years with the ??... When did he abandon his family and when did he return to his pregnant girlfriend? What years? Edited August 18, 2023 by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
