DB Cooper

[skyjack71 0]

I found it impossible to determine who said what to who & when on your new site Shutter.

The divisions were NOT available. I loved the one about the flight path on the old site - as those guys actually got to talk to each other without interuptions from Blevins or others.

The various divisions are NO longer available. I have no clue what a crawler is. Was impossible to figure out who said what & when they said it. Since I could NOT get to the categories - everything seemed disjointed.

Do NOT even remember the name I register under. If the site is for explorations & information everyone should be able to register & view unless they disobey the rules.

Something was discussed there I do NOT remember being discussed in this thread. If it was probably got lost in all the promotions from writers.

Was about Brent Dorom the skyjacking of Oct 4, 1971 - just weeks before Cooper made his jump. What was presented was so sketchy I could not grasp it...but it was never discussed here that I remember.

The name Charles Gillihan and Andy was mentioned. I have to do this from memory, but maybe someone will make some of this available on this thread. My memory does not work lately on newly acquire information - therefore please forgive the misspelling of names regarding the info I just read.

I would love for this man to post his information at the DZ about his father. I want to know more about his father - where he lived and how he lived his life.

Blevins & Georger then would then over whelm him...with trivia. Georger & Blevins claim to be serious researchers. but Blevins promotes and repromotes & then Georger repeats and then repeates everything Blevins said....

1. Blevins promotions - duh
Georger's repetitions and quoting every word Blevins used.

2. The format for explorations is much better in the DZ if the posters could be controlled or made to abide by the rules.

3. The BANTER between Blevins and Georger - is BORING! and it is TIRESOME!

4. Bruce - with his Enquire tactic is also a turn off.

5. Allowing children to post in this adult enviroment - is dangerous (but, I expect that is NOT really a child). Due to the responses seems to be one of the other posters - using a proxie of sorts in another location....such as a friend living in Ga.

WOULD you guys clean this site up so it will be condusive to individuals like the man investigating the circumstances of his father's death in a skyjacking made on Oct 4, 1971?

I came to the DZ looking for facts & this thread provided them. Because of the continued BANTER - those with real information do not want to come here.

Rules: NO SELLING or PROMOTING. You will be allowed one advertisment & after that if you mention your book - you get suspended....or PAY a fine or advertisement fee! That money could be used by the DZ & would cut the advertisement postings.

Rules: If you repeat the posting of others to ridicule continuously - with riddles and banter - you get suspended.

Certain individuals drove off some of the BEST posters to come down Cooper lane. I am responsible for a couple of them leaving.

Carr did NOT belong here and his actions were NOT sanctioned by the FBI. He also misrepresented certain facts about the crime...that was not professional.

Sluggo had a narrow angle of vision and when anyone did NOT agree with him he didn't like it. ALL in all he was the most informative poster on this thread until Homid and Robt99.

377 has played the middle & is a great source of information that we have all appreciated over these yrs with his postings. He pokes at me - but in a light hearted way. Never cruel or nasty.

Bruce our enquirer writer on the thread - needs to get a job with one of the smut magazines. A writer promoting himself at the expense of those who are actually involved...with the crime. The only article he did I could NOT pick apart was an interview with the man who provided the chutes.

Of course I know nothing about chutes (which is the reason I came to DZ to learn information). Yet, suddenly Bruce knows more than the jumpers know! Considering the "other" interviews he did - how do we know what he related is true & factual?

Bruce's head was swollen way out of proportion at that time. He was eager to nterview Cossey.

Cossey was killed during the time Bruce was trying to contact him. I have no idea why Cossey refused to talk to BRUCE.

Cossey spoke to me many times & sent me a packet of photos & manuals hoping that would help me understand what he told me over the phone.

Cossey was a spark plug...and Bruce's personality probably cause him to fire off...refusing to be interviewed. Cossey popped off on me at times on the phone. He was a man of few words - he knew what he was talking about...I was just a woman who knew nothing about anything.

Since Bruce seemed compelled to show up on the door step of others involved in incident unannounced one can only imagine how Cossey would react to such a tactic. He certainly would NOT have stood there at the door & be polite the way Tina & her brother in-inlaw did.

This is BRUCE's grudge against Jo. I stated the circumstances of the on going investigation after Cossey's death & Bruce hit the ceiling.

After Cossey's death Bruce went way over the top for a reporter by staying on top of the investigation in Cossey's location. Some one must have helped Bruce with the expenses incurred to do this.

Well, Jo is just about through with ALL of this. Cooper even in death can cause harm to those whose lives he touched. The only way to end this suffering - is for the FBI to FINALLY COME forward with information THEY never disclosed.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[skyjack71 0]

Well, I have done everything possible to be able to Read Shutter's site. All areas have been tried - NO one other than a select few can view it....I had 2 others try the site & they can't get past the 1st page.

So the individuals are a select few. If their postings are so secret it is not available to a media group - there is something wrong with that.

I expect the slaughter of JO is still going on there....

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[mrshutter45 21]

"It's one thing to disallow someone from posting or signing up at your site. It's quite another to ban their IP address so they can't even view what is being said. It's like you're covering your ass because you have something to hide. No worries, though. I get regular updates on posts there from Greg The Techie Guy, and we check it out from his place once in a while. Fortunately, you haven't figured out his IP yet. (*laughs*) "

Robert, once again you fail to see things as others do. when you are banned from here the samething happens, your IP is blocked. I'm not hiding anything from anyone. I know you can go to other computers, and your techie boys computer etc. what can be hidden on a website? you view things differently than others, you piece things together differently. it's sad to think you actually need updates on what goes on with my forum. I hate to inform you, but you have never been, nor will be a hot topic on my forum. hey! why don't you join up with Jo, and create a website against Cook? you could really ban together and show the world the misfortunes that occur. (laughs*)

If you started a forum yourself, it would be in every post you made here! you whine so much about my forum, I had to put the link up for others to decide. people will only join if they want to. I can't make someone join. my forum was designed to talk about Cooper. guess what, that's what it's doing over 95% of the time. the problem here is the fact of you tossing in drama on everything said and done here, and now on my forum. Cooper is way in the back of the bus here. I could care less if nobody posted for a month. I've told you endless times, it's not designed for views, and publicity. the bottom line is your bitter for the simple fact of not being allowed to be there. your rude and arrogant against any theory other than your own! you fail to hold a conversation without disrupting everything said. it's ok to push a short bald guy, but question the flight path? no freaking way man! right? yes, descriptions can be off, but let me know when you can dodge around Tina having to look up at Cooper while speaking to him since she is 5' 8". how tall is KC (*giggles*)

you are here for publicity, because you keep calling my forum the "deadzone" but if you look at the amount of people posting here. you loose, or it's about the same amount of people on both sites because most are from here. you won't see me telling people to " be there, or be square " etc. like you do advertising here, which is against the rules which you have chosen to ignore. the amount of views are different compared to my forum, and minus the drama. so, obviously you are here for the publicity.

since you are a major poster here. do you have Cooper in the discussion slated anytime in the future? (smiles*)

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[Danielle1010 0]

I tell you my secrets I still watch barney and sleep with a stuffed animal

[mrshutter45 21]

The DB Cooper Thread at Dropzone.com - Already several thousand pages in length, it contains a vast amount of information and imput on the case, mostly from private citizens with an interest in it. Although it can be a bit hectic sometimes, it still remains the BEST forum going on DB Cooper. NOTE: There is a new, recently-created discussion forum on Cooper. We cannot recommend it. Many of the participants involved in the discussion were banned from Dropzone for personal attacks. Some of them (the ones who haven't been banned) spend their time at Dropzone trashing current users, and many have agendas related to the Cooper case.

Now, didn't you just post a statement saying you were not discrediting my forum? sounds like a LIE to me no? and yet another lie on your site. ". Many of the participants involved in the discussion were banned from Dropzone"

there are 28 members on my forum. two are banned from here? where does your logic fit into this calculation? one (Meyer) basically banned himself, but surely you don't want to add that do ya? that leaves Cook. where is the many come into play? how do you say it? "that's a bold face lie"

LIE: A lie is a false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not the whole truth, intentionally. Lies can be told for various reasons and with various amounts of success.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[MarkBennett 5]

RobertMBlevins

What will you do if someone posts there and happens to mention KC positively as a suspect? Ban them? Ban their IP?

Robert,
You obviously haven't been reading the other site. A couple of weeks ago, we did have a discussion of Kenny as a suspect. We discussed it, pro and con, and believe it or not, you were not mentioned.

Someday, someone is going to read one of your posts and go to your website and say, "I'm going to see for myself what goes on over there". And, when they visit "The DB Cooper Forum", they're going to find it's not anything like you describe.

[georger 258]

MarkBennett

***What will you do if someone posts there and happens to mention KC positively as a suspect? Ban them? Ban their IP?

Robert,
You obviously haven't been reading the other site. A couple of weeks ago, we did have a discussion of Kenny as a suspect. We discussed it, pro and con, and believe it or not, you were not mentioned.

Someday, someone is going to read one of your posts and go to your website and say, "I'm going to see for myself what goes on over there". And, when they visit "The DB Cooper Forum", they're going to find it's not anything like you describe.

Why does anyone care what he thinks! About anything.
Passenger #3534-54756378-B is not going to get to fly the plane
no matter what he threatens or says!

There are people waiting to take him into custody -

We don't give in to "terrorists". That's the bottom line.
I dont give a shit if they are tweeting or twooting or dumpster
diving on some socalled Skydiver's website or not!

The guy is some kind of Wacko and that's all there is to this!
I am sure Slick Bob appeals to old women, kids, and the feeble
minded!



The telling fact for me is after four long years supposedly
parsing, discussing, and improving/revising his research for
'Blast - The True Story of DSB Cooper ?' (a title which he says
he knows is a stretch but did not pick (Porteous did?), Blevins
now puts up a brand new video at http:, which clearly
shows Blevins' never intended to change anything! ... and he is
not going to change anything now! The whole thing was a sham
from the start! Blevins' has gone right ahead and put up a brand
new long tedious video of his original sermon on Kenny, that
started this whole farce four years ago starting in August 2010!

Take the time to watch this new long tedious video of Bob's!
Or, maybe skip the meal and all the hazards, and don't!

After watching Bob's new video, of his old video, drink your Kool
Aid and join Rev. Bob and Adventure Books of Seattle in
Paradise!



Goin' to the chapel and we're gonna get married.
Goin' to the chapel and we're gonna get married.
Gee, I really love you and we're, gonna get married.
Goin' to the chapel of love.

Spring is here,
theeee sky is blue.
Whooooa! the birds all sing as if they knew.
Today's the day, we'll say, "I do"
and we'll never be lonely anymore.

Goin' to the chapel and we're gonna get married.
Goin' to the chapel and we're gonna get married.
Gee, I really love you and we're, gonna get married.
Goin' to the chapel of love.

Goin' to the chapel of love.

[skyjack71 0]

I will start with something most of you have read before. It as at this time that Cook became very agressive and the other thread accepted him with open arms....but, understand this that Ft. Lauderdale and Canada and BC all play a roll in this.

When I first mentioned some of this there was a lot of grumbling - so I will leave out the names.


The life of Duane L. Weber & things and people he mentioned. Find his history and...follow the trails from 1940's thru the 60's. All trail cross at some time in the future.

Daniel Ellsberg never revealed his sources for the Pentagon Papers...and what really happened with the Vietnam war. Those who are politically savy and those who are part of the past want these things to remain buried. There was much more that was never made available to the public.

Everytime I make a pointed post it is erased before it goes to print...as one I did only an hour ago and tried to post a version of it. It went POOF!

There was a reason for Ellsberry was brough into the present and the action of Meire....whose wife (or girl friend) I met on their yacht. Duane asked her how xxx and xxx were and she feeled them in. When Duane asked about John she told him he was in Canada and that he probably would have to do some time.
I was on their yacht and I was in their Ft. Lauderdale home.

Duane personally knew these individual as he knew other individual who worked in the Reno & Vegas areas. Gambling and dirty politics in the 60's went hand in hand.

Duane was much older than I was and I just chalked some of his conversation up to experience with the past.

Duane at one time (the ex verified this - made a trip to WA to give a deposition).
What the hell did Weber have to go to WA to give a deposition for in 1969 or 1970. BEAR in mind that Duane WEBER was released from Jefferson in 1968, but his reporting a man in the N was after that.

Oddly it was around this time that Weber started to turn his life around and don't give me that thing about getting old.

THE authorities or someone else has want JO WEBER to go away for a long long time. When everything else faild they put Cook in my path...but he was pathetic - and I have he hanging out to dry....ALL of the emails we exhanged! I played him and he was playing me.

Galen Cook is playing on the other side and the link is John - not Collins.

A riddle - but Galen knows exactly who I am talking about - he was supposed to shut me up & after I survived an accident when I made all of the contacts in Ft. Lauderdale and connected Meire with Weber...along with others Meire knew.

Guess where Meire lives now. If Duane was alive he would be 90 yrs old this month. Meire must be near the age of Weber - so perhaps this is GALEN's honey due! Yes, I spelled DUE correctly.
Galen was supposed to keep me quiet - well, it has NOT worked!

I guess Galen thought he was over worked and under paid...so he got Cocky & when that happens careless mistake happen. In 2004 Galen was completely taken back that I knew the building he worked in and the offices in that building.
One simple woman can't do that! At least that is what he thought. He never figured out how I got the information.




!

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[skyjack71 0]

Quote

We don't give in to "terrorists". That's the bottom line.
I dont give a shit if they are tweeting or twooting or dumpster
diving on some socalled Skydiver's website or not!

I do not know if Georger or Blevins made this statement - but it was ODD it came up in conversations on my phone in the last few days....DUMPSTER DIVING. This was in relationship to Ellsberg and the one conversation he ever mentioned using that word. He was hired to do some DUMPSTER DIVING!

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[skyjack71 0]

Remember this post: IT sure has stirred Cook up...he failed to keep me quiet. The first attempt was in 2000 and that one failed. 3 inches save my life.

"The realm of Daniel Ellsberg: He never revealed his sources for the Pentagon Papers...and what really happened with the Vietnam war. Does one think he just conjured up the information or did he have reliable sources & documents".

NOW REMEMBER THIS:

Remember I attended a party in N.Orleans (around 1981 or 82) and ONE of the WATERGATE guys was there Bernie - NO not Geestman, but that other Bernie!

I also met the BIG tall guy - he was the host! I was never able to identify the younger man with the Baby face - he was younger maybe 30 to 35 yrs. He was very close to Duane - but I do NOT remember his name - I want to say Dale.

FACT or FICTION!

June 28, 1971 - Ellsberg publicly surrender to the US Attorney's Office.

Russo and Ellsberg faced charges.

The GOVERNMENT lost the TAPES!

Snowden, Assange, Ellsberg & Manning These men are HEROS!"

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[MarkBennett 5]

georger

The telling fact for me is after four long years supposedly
parsing, discussing, and improving/revising his research for
'Blast - The True Story of DSB Cooper ?' (a title which he says
he knows is a stretch but did not pick (Porteous did?), Blevins
now puts up a brand new video at http:, which clearly
shows Blevins' never intended to change anything! ... and he is
not going to change anything now! The whole thing was a sham
from the start! Blevins' has gone right ahead and put up a brand
new long tedious video of his original sermon on Kenny, that
started this whole farce four years ago starting in August 2010!

I watched the video. It doesn't appear to be anything new. It was posted in 2012, so it's over two years old.

Very interesting. I'd have to say Mr. Blevins comes off much different than he does on the forum, although the content is pretty much identical.

[skyjack71 0]

Recently someone tried to SkyJack my files - well, it didn't work. AOL saved my life and I intend to make as much as I can possible do available right here in the DZ.

[blueI thought I had lost my communications with COOK, but it is all here.

I had printed the early one and now the others have been saved in several ways and they will all be printed.

It is time for someone to expose Cook and bring him down to the level he works on - underground.

Cook did NOT understand how I had so much stuff. He was too lazy to dig for his own - so he started using my research.

Never turn your back on certain individuals and never allow them to sucker you. JT called me a liar many time and I always wonder how and why he fit into all of this - NOW, I know.

Cook is not the only individual out of all of the posters and Cooper seekers who out and out lied and used dirty tactics.

I can't read what is on that other site, but I knew when COOK started to attack me that he was loosing the battle. I have documented his lies and the evolvement for yrs. He has nothing original - he hijacks his material & that is his job to make sure that anyone with the truth is never heard....until certain individuals are deceased.

His job had been to keep the heat off of certain individuals so they could leave the legacy....that person I believe knew who Cooper really was.

It was Shutter who revealed the Jefferson pictures after the FBI so carefully concealed them....under the name of John Collins & never presented those photos to the witnesses. Yet, the FBI with unmitigated gall sent me letter in 1998 dismissing Weber based ONLY ON PRINTS...a letter they never retracted. The FBI agent of record did not have the ARMY records - I did when I confronted him in 2000.

Cook never intended for the truths to be known - he needed to SILENCE me after JT failed. Cook was assigned to me after the FBI deception failed & after others realized JO was NOT going to back down.

Cook did a fair job in finding out just how much I knew & it was decided I was not a threat. When I started posting on this thread they knew the truths would come. He was supposed to side track & keep me quiet.

In the last 5 yrs they realized I remembered too much, but didn't think I could ever put it together. Thought wrongly I did not have enough pieces of the puzzle to link others.

Right now you can bet that Cook is seething and trying to figure out how to keep his bonus & answer to those who hired him. He knew he was loosing when I started to talk about Meire in this thread & Ft. Lauderdale and New Orleans and bouncing names off the thread. This is when he resorted to the horrible things he was saying on the other site...anything he could do to stop me...he only insited me to come forward and to take action.

This last thing came at a time when they knew my health was failing, but in the underworld there are NO barriers. Seek and destroy! Who pays Galen Cook?
Can anyone figure out how he lives his life & still has the time to pounce on JO? Is his practice that productive? Why mess with horrible gossip about JO in the other thread?

Cook was not getting any bonuses!

Well the pressure exerted on me with all of the last garbage regarding mental health was unsettling. WELL, evidently Galen did not know JO had people in her corner. His spewing those thing about me - did hurt & caused me a lot of grief that took some time off of my life, but I am still alive and still fighting the battle.

Galen's mission failed. What he did has cause the truth & insite of what he was doing - to come to the forefront of others who knew me & knew my story. He was making the FBI look very bad and it his postings were true, he was portraying the FBI in a worst case senario.

When you spew dirt & mistruths there can be no good end to it. When you tell the truth - some individuals crawl out the debris & be all the stronger for it.

When one does NOT lie they never have to worry about what they say. That quote has been stated on this thread, but I have it in writing from Himmelsbach!

I expect a book/movie is being written by Cook regarding his contacts in BC and Vancouver WA. Well, they should have eradicated me when they had the chance....

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[georger 258]

RobertMBlevins

******
The telling fact for me is after four long years supposedly
parsing, discussing, and improving/revising his research for
'Blast - The True Story of DSB Cooper ?' (a title which he says he knows is a stretch but did not pick (Porteous did?), Blevins now puts up a brand new video at http:, which clearly shows Blevins' never intended to change anything! ... and he is not going to change anything now! The whole thing was a sham from the start! Blevins' has gone right ahead and put up a brand new long tedious video of his original sermon on Kenny, that started this whole farce four years ago starting in August 2010!

I watched the video. It doesn't appear to be anything new. It was posted in 2012, so it's over two years old.

Very interesting. I'd have to say Mr. Blevins comes off much different than he does on the forum, although the content is pretty much identical.

I'm not a wacko, a terrorist, a liar, or whatever insult Georger has invented for me today. If I kept changing the 2012 video, that would be pretty stupid, wouldn't it? It's obvious Georger doesn't care a whit about whether KC was Cooper or not. It's become both emotional and personal to him, and has absolutely zip to do with the Cooper case. He is obsessed without a doubt and that obsession has a name. But since Shutter doesn't allow stuff like that over at his discussion forum (a good thing), Georger comes here to empty his trash.

His over-the-top, (and rather juvenile) posts prove that easily. No further comment is needed.

Some kind of (what we used to call) "Socio-Affective Personality Disorder", is my guess.

The terminology has changed since the 70's, when I was an Evaluator/Test admniistrator-designer working for the State.

[mrshutter45 21]

"It's obvious Georger doesn't care a whit about whether KC was Cooper or not."

Robert, stop blaming everyone else. why not ask this question. why is all of your so called witnesses wishing to remain silent about one of the greatest unsolved mysteries? how stupid do you think the FBI is? there is probably a dozen Kenny's in the files. all claiming the same crap.

It's just a bunch of BS, just like the crap you put on your website about my forum. I prefer the word deception. you still haven't answered the question about the "many on the discussion forum were banned from dropzone" two out of 28? how can you HONESTLY state this? or how you make it appear that they come here. they have been here long before that forum was made.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[Amazon 7]

Counting down to Circle Jerk commencing in


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He's grabbing a tissue.........

[mrshutter45 21]

"I will change the word 'many' to 'some' for you and leave it at that."

I don't really care what you change it to. I pointed out that it's deceptive anyway you look at it. lots more people were, and still can be banned from here. I'm not like you (bitter) or I would be filling my forum up with ridiculous crap such as this. Robert this, Robert said that. this was one of the main points in creating a forum. what will you do if Snow pops on? start reporting "another banned member joined the alternate site" it's childish Robert.

If you read the thread correctly. I didn't agree with what Cook said, I asked for some sort of proof. I haven't seen it from him, or you. let it goooooooo. how many times do people state they breeze right over this crap? it does nobody any good.

The forum is there. that's where it will be in 6 months. if there is 50 members, so be it. if there are 30 members, so be it. if nobody comments for several days (same as here) so be it. I've been banned before, not here, but it happens, and you move on. back in my paranormal day. I had a guy telling people I was a child molester. picture and all. he left one detail out. the guy was 30 years younger. backfired on him. I have to go to trial for an accident I was never in, why? because a couple people think I did it. the proof is overwhelming that I have, but they just keep coming. my vehicle doesn't even line up, hasn't stopped them. I know all about weak evidence. you need to make god damn sure of what you are doing when accusing someone of a crime. I've went through this many times over. so, forgive me when I try to get answers to accusations I challenge. you quickly become wise, and alert when judging things. especially when you are on the receiving end.

I don't think you are a bad guy, for some reason the internet changes some peoples personalities, either it turns them into someone they wish they were, or they just enjoy conflicts. two posters have met me in person. I'm not trying to speak for them, but my guess is they seen mrshutter45 as I am here, no difference. I'm me, myself, and eye

"How do you know the witnesses wouldn't talk to anyone?"

perhaps I could word it differently. If I had knowledge of a major unsolved crime, regardless of the severity. I would contact the authorities. Now, as far as I can tell, Lyle was the only one who stepped forward. to me this sends a red flag a fly'n. I just don't believe there story. the pinpointing of accuracy to irrelevant things 40 + years ago is astounding. my mom has worn here wedding ring since before me. sadly I couldn't tell you what it looks like at this moment, or her clothing wardrobe from 5-10 years ago. The FBI holds things back in order to help weed you guys out. I've mentioned this before, KC has been around for many years now, including national television, you have sent the FBI a package, and nothing happened. that's all I need to come to my conclusion.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[georger 258]

RobertMBlevins

Quote

'Some kind of (what we used to call) "Socio-Affective Personality Disorder", is my guess.

The terminology has changed since the 70's, when I was an Evaluator/Test admniistrator-designer working for the State...'

I don't think those were the results of my last MMPI, but I would have to check. (*laughs*) Since when does handing out shrink tests for the state forty years ago give you the experience to start rendering analysis or diagnosis on people via the internet? You've never even met me, I haven't taken any of your dumb tests, and I'll bet you don't have any kind of medical degree.

You're simply an obsessed personality who has a morbid fear of being corrected on anything, or challenged on anything. You toss out cheap slander like a high school cheerleader tossing candy from a parade float on the Fourth of July.

And again you are wrong on all counts. But you never read the
thread. And you don't know me at all!

So you took the MMPI more than once. That's interesting. You
don't just walk into MacDonald's and get the MMPI. There has to
be a reason: voluntary or mandated. And in most States a
licensed psychologist has to score and certify it. Example:
application for work in law enforcement.

I just think Bennett's observation is interesting: that you are
vastly different here (more confrontational here) than you are
on your long tedious video, at least to the untrained eye.
I actually saw similarities! In fact what I see is an exceedingly
nervous person who speaks poorly, speaks not too logically, you
lose your train of thought, with a very bland affect which made
me wonder if you were medicated?

I'll go look at the video and again see what I think a second time.

You also refer to the MMPI as "dumb tests". That sounds hostile.
Where's the same hostility on your video? Right below the
surface?

I'm guessing you don't think much of psychologists? Or like them?

[skyjack71 0]

mrshutter45

Referencing your site. Your site is deception when NO ONE other than your members can read it. It is not fair for you to post here in this thread and other who only state negative thing about the DZ thread when those of us who ARE left CANNOT or ARE NOT allowed to read your thread.

Jo States:
How many emails have I sent you about NOT being able to READ your thread...????

You are aware I do NOT want to post only read - your thread which you are publicizing here. I have not been able to open it since you moved it.


I could not remember the name or the password I set up - but I didn't want to post. I felt since I was being discussed in such a negative way - that I should be able to read what is being said.

COOK has been addressed as regarding the cruel & fraudulent posting he made.

The STATE of WA will handle his dicipline which is not acceptable for an attorney.

Even if it has been removed it is a given fact is that Cook is the poster. A snap shot (what I call it) was made of his first postings.

My computer has been adjusted to read that thread - but, I cannot even get to the registration part or to open anything. You have been made aware of this in multiple posts.

I have compression enabled & there are no filters.

Explain this? If they are actually discussing Cooper and Coop is still allow to say the things he was saying against someone who had a subject and subject the poster had intimate knowledge of - WHAT does that say for your site?

U continue to come here and talk about your SITE - how is that different from what Blevins does on this thread. I AGREE with you there should be NOT repeated advertisements about a book or etc.

A horrible cruel bashing party about another person who spent 18 yrs with a subject she presented....yet, I did NOT even attempt to post there....just let them know I WAS there.

You are here bragging about your posters that used to post here! Right!
Now is that not prostelizing?

Frankly I hate Blevins repetitions, but it is up to the moderator to stop the use of the thread to sell something....

Ask you attorney in place what the rules are. He has violated everyone of them.
To bash an individual with cruel and mean thing - it is childish.

It makes no matter that I cannot post, but I should be entitled to read what is being said. There are other ways to defend yourself without posting on the thread?

Such as here - we can try to go to the moderator first - but if we were not allowed to post we couldn't do that. What was created in THAT other place WAS a HANGING PARTY - sentenced to death with no trial of defense. YOU only have one poster who was slandering another person. Well, there is another one who will mimick others but with the offender gone that becomes minimal.

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Georger you are generalizing. SOME individuals do NOT interview well, and I am one of those. I have explained how I could never stand up in class & recite a poem.
That is just how I was. I had 2 small parts in a play - I couldn't remember my lines when it came time on the stage. I had to be prompted.

Some individuals uals are very timid when confronted...does NOT mean they are lieing, but that they cannot handle being behind a microphone or standing on stage with memorized words.

I can handle myself on a printer, but when someone is interviewing me with rapid fire questions - I get lost....why I do not interview well. IF someone jumps around with the question - I get totally lost and yet, I am not lieing, but because of this complex or whatever anyone want to call it...I become completely disoriented in an interview, standing before more than one or two persons or see a camera. There was only one person who made a successful interview with me - Byron Pitts - he was patient and he did NOT rapid fire or change directions on me. The others - I just rambled and they discredited me terribly.

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RobertMBlevins

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'Some kind of (what we used to call) "Socio-Affective Personality Disorder", is my guess.

The terminology has changed since the 70's, when I was an Evaluator/Test admniistrator-designer working for the State...'

I don't think those were the results of my last MMPI, but I would have to check. (*laughs*) Since when does handing out shrink tests for the state forty years ago give you the experience to start rendering analysis or diagnosis on people via the internet? You've never even met me, I haven't taken any of your dumb tests, and I'll bet you don't have any kind of medical degree.

You're simply an obsessed personality who has a morbid fear of being corrected on anything, or challenged on anything. You toss out cheap slander like a high school cheerleader tossing candy from a parade float on the Fourth of July.

And again you are wrong on all counts. But you never read the
thread. And you don't know me at all!

So you took the MMPI more than once. That's interesting. You
don't just walk into MacDonald's and get the MMPI. There has to
be a reason: voluntary or mandated. And in most States a
licensed psychologist has to score and certify it. Example:
application for work in law enforcement.

I just think Bennett's observation is interesting: that you are
vastly different here (more confrontational here) than you are
on your long tedious video, at least to the untrained eye.
I actually saw similarities! In fact what I see is an exceedingly
nervous person who speaks poorly, speaks not too logically, you
lose your train of thought, with a very bland affect which made
me wonder if you were medicated?

I'll go look at the video and again see what I think a second time.

You also refer to the MMPI as "dumb tests". That sounds hostile.
Where's the same hostility on your video? Right below the
surface?

I'm guessing you don't think much of psychologists? Or like them?

Blah, blah, blah.

I didn't say I took the test more than once. You did. The MMPI was required at the school I went to many years ago. It's been around since the 40's, you know. I have nothing against shrinks or psychologists. I just have an objection to a guy who tries to analyze someone they've never even met ... and hides behind claims of professionalism in a veiled attempt to engage in cheap slander. Get real.

If you're thinking about sending me a bill for services, forget it. As far as the video, I had just returned from a forty-mile hike in the Olympics, so I was a little tired there.
Here's the OTHER interviews in case you want to analyze those as well. (*laughs*)

Shutter says in part:

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'If I had knowledge of a major unsolved crime, regardless of the severity. I would contact the authorities...'

The only two people who would know for sure on KC are the same two people we believe were involved. Like they're going to pick up the phone and call the FBI? Instead, you should ask yourself why Margie sold her ranch for cash and told everyone involved to keep it quiet where she was going, and why Bernie Geestman's family doesn't say a word about the book or the allegations against him.

And why you are even asking me case questions here? I don't owe you Jack, as the saying goes.

You did say: "the results of my last MMPI". So if not a first then
you anticipate taking one again ?

These are your words, not mine.

Maybe that's your whole problem. You can't speak English and
say what is true ?

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Good Night! I am sleeping 12 hours plus a day and when I am awake I am in pain.
Going to the grocery or the Dr.s is very difficult now. Keep a cooler in the car with lots of ice packs in it. I can stand but sitting is excruciating.

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skyjack71

Georger you are generalizing. SOME individuals do NOT interview well, and I am one of those. I have explained how I could never stand up in class & recite a poem.
That is just how I was. I had 2 small parts in a play - I couldn't remember my lines when it came time on the stage. I had to be prompted.

Some individuals uals are very timid when confronted...does NOT mean they are lieing, but that they cannot handle being behind a microphone or standing on stage with memorized words.

I can handle myself on a printer, but when someone is interviewing me with rapid fire questions - I get lost....why I do not interview well. IF someone jumps around with the question - I get totally lost and yet, I am not lieing, but because of this complex or whatever anyone want to call it...I become completely disoriented in an interview, standing before more than one or two persons or see a camera. There was only one person who made a successful interview with me - Byron Pitts - he was patient and he did NOT rapid fire or change directions on me. The others - I just rambled and they discredited me terribly.

kind of depends on the person, the interview, and the
circumstances - eh? Nothing is black and white and red all over;
only a newspaper ?

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"My computer has been adjusted to read that thread - but, I cannot even get to the registration part or to open anything. You have been made aware of this in multiple posts."

Jo, we have went back and forth on this. the last email discussion was your browser, I sent you a update link. you responded back claiming to have to pay some sort of fee. browser updates have always been free. the you said you could finally see the thread, but said something about missing parts, or changes. the site simply moved into the premium stage, nothing changed except the address. everything is just the way it was prior to getting a .com.

I haven't done any advertising. the link was provided for people to view & decide whether anything stated was true, or false. I'm constantly reading gossip type posting in relation to the forum, or I'm hiding something. you don't need to register to view the site. your last email was May 29th. no I haven't responded back. I've been a little busy. Cook hasn't posted in weeks. (see photo)

To date, you are the only one who can't seem to get on the site correctly. it's much different than this forum. you seem to go from human error, to browser issues, along with dial up. I'll reset your password and mail it.

I've sent you parts of the flight path thread, unlocked the ban view. I've tried to help you the best I can, even offering a section for you to post in. I can only do so much Jo. the register issue is stopping you because you are not allowed to post. this is due to the problem between you a Bruce. be patient, I'll help you with this tomorrow. rest assure, nobody has said a word about you in weeks. your not missing anything negative said about you.

you have a quote above quoting me, that's incorrect.

Robert, I don't need any recommendations from you....thanks

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Thanks for the JPG. Comforting to know he is NOT attacking me!

Georger - I need for you to open your PM for me - NOT tonight but one evening when I feel pretty good. I prefer to do it over the phone. I do much better that way & others will tell you - I do not call them. This is something I have hidden a long long time - because going there was scary. Frankly I think you know what I am talking about - Let's just call it SECRETS & just as I typed that I thought about Carr and why he used the posting name he used. Perhaps he is part of these SECRETS.

I am tired and do NOT have much time left to expend on this...but, it has to do with a trip we took and the person we went to see and it is about SECRETS. Your name never came up but then I didn't know all of the names involved.

I knew enough to get me killed & why I crawled in the back door the way I did. I would like to end my life by at least knowing the reason all of this has been so SECRET! Two of the individual I need to meet.

Frankly I do not believe the individuals involved knew Weber was Cooper, but it does prove Duane traveled in circles that - well, they puzzled me.

I have resigned myself that I will not get well enough to make my trip, but maybe someone who knows will at least come here & talk to me. I have kept a LOT of secrets...even though I have been open in my explorations - I kept a LOT to myself. It is not too late for those who are still alive & involved to at least tell me about my husband & how he was involved....and if they ever thought he was Cooper. It started in 1962 and he was still on the inside up until the last part of his life. 50K he collected in 1990 obviously in cash for services rended.

A promise made to Weber when he contacted them and told them the end was near. It was in that old book, but I didn't know what it meant and his code number to get thru.

Nothing I can prove - I just need to know so I can make my peace with him and leave if for someone else to maybe ONE day tell the real story.

A subject I never talked about - because I wasn't ready to die.

The accident in 2000 was NOT an accident. You know that & I know that! I still do not understand what they had to hide....it was in the past. They were all out there to protect one person and frankly I would like to meet him before we both die - as I understand he also is very ill....he was alive 5 yrs ago.

That is enough, but it should be enough for you to call me. Really do not want to discuss it with the written word.

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RobertMBlevins

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'Robert, I don't need any recommendations from you....thanks'

And you certainly won't get them. But you sure whined a lot about what we said about your site at AB, didn't you?

This is what I think. People with common sense will see through that whole thing for what it is all about.

Mostly Cooper Royalty with agendas. The reason the posts are sometimes few and far between is because they aren't allowed to jack people around there or slander them. But the problem is that some of your MAIN posters spend a lot of time doing that here. This is phony as hell.

Censorship is easily seen for what it is. You want to pick and choose on what voices should be heard, that's up to you.

But don't expect the public, especially in the Good Old USA, to buy into that thinking. Trust me. It's a futile effort. Everyone wonders WHY that is done. Big Brother is Watching You and all that stuff. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

"And you certainly won't get them. But you sure whined a lot about what we said about your site at AB, didn't you?"

you got that right. you are not telling the truth Robert. once again you don't even understand why something is said.

people are banned for a reason. when they get banned here, you don't seem to care. when YOU get banned, it's censorship. you were banned for several reasons. #1 is easily explained. just look back hundreds of pages here. #2 you registered under a false name. something you have done MANY times. you are the mother of all whiners Robert. now you skew it further whining that members have been spending time here? Robert, you have been confronted since the day you signed on here. who is being phony? did these posters just start here, or has things changed here since the forum started? so stop whining a reason was never given why you were BANNED. also, you don't speak for the public Robert, not even close.

I'm amazed they still allow you on here. where is DB COOPER?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI