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Weber was never in the clear!!
Weber took that business trip as an opportunity to go back and retrive the rest of the money he did NOT take with him. Just knowing how he thought and how the worked things - he never put everything in one bank so to speak. I am the same way.

Would I actually be sitting here with life drifting by if I had NOT SEEN the WHITE bank BAG with the name of the BANK on it?

I actually saw and held the Airline ticket.

I had a stub - but never knew the meaning of the SEA TAC stub - could have been a parking ticket or box - I do not know. It was a little blue ticket maybe 2in by 1in. The match book I described to Himmelsbach, but I had just threw them out - just onle match book - didn't mean anything.

A satchel - that Mr. H told me didn't mean anything.

A jar of stuff in the garage -Duand told me not to throw away.
Like a large jar when we bought things for businesses. There was a metal top on it and the stuff inside - I didn't know what it was. and now I think it was part of an old parachute.

If Duane WEBER was setting me up for a death bed confession it was 17 yrs in the making?

I wasn't talking about now or 1990, before 1996, nobody knew Duane Weber. it doesn't make sense to plant the money in order to throw the law off the track. they were never on a track to Cooper at anytime?

Weber, KC, and a lot of the rest were never known while the money was being "planted" so why throw the police off an extremely cold trail?

was Duane in the Ohio prison from 44 to 49?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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I actually saw and held the Airline ticket.

I had a stub - but never knew the meaning of the SEA TAC stub - could have been a parking ticket or box - I do not know. It was a little blue ticket maybe 2in by 1in. I didn't know what it was. and now I think it was part of an old parachute.

Jo, Any airline ticket paperwork that Duane had in 1971 would be the same size as the ticket that the FBI recovered from NWA.

Your "little blue ticket maybe 2in by 1in" may have been a parking ticket but, if so, it would have a date and time stamped on it. But it didn't have anything to do with a parachute.

Robert99

[georger 257]

I wasn't talking about now or 1990, before 1996, nobody knew Duane Weber. it doesn't make sense to plant the money in order to throw the law off the track. they were never on a track to Cooper at anytime?

Not to mention looking for Cooper in the Vancouver
area!

And the even far more remote abstraction of
burying!!! money at Tena Bar, way off the track!

It's asinine on its face.

Duane might as well have stuffed Cooper bills up one
of Faxio's cows asses in hopes it would come out in
the milk served in the vending machines in the
Federal Building. It's laughable. Crazy! Now I
suppose you will introduce: Duane the Dairyman ?

Jo there are real tales in the Cooper saga. Your tall
tales and fabrications don't happen to be one.

You have managed to accumulate a certain knowledge
of the Cooper case, for some reason. But your Duane
Fable is a pure concoction you can't even remember
or keep track of in spite of day-to-day repetitions
you struggle through.

Even Elvis and the Beatles got old! Your Duane tales
are pre-historic and a source of humor!

Prior to Blevins and Kaye you had never-ever talked
about Duane making a "plant"!

I want to hear about Duane-the-dairyman!

Its all good humor and we thank you for it, daily.
It keep people coming to the thread to see whats
next on: "As Jo Weber Turns". The longest running
soap opera in the Cooperphelia. You deserve an
Emmy!

Geoff Gray really didn't give you full credit! You have
the longest running Cooper Comic in the whole saga.
Fully deserving of an Emmy or something -

Nobody else has even come close!

I applaud your chutzpah.

Three Cheers for Jo! Even the FBI and SA Larry Carr gave you credit!

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I found some rather damaging evidence about Weber. I was cleaning
older icons off my desktop when I seen the newspaper article about Duane.
this is in July of 1957 in regards to his arrest. again, only after being out of
prison 4 months. I started reading and by Duane's own admission he said
he was in prison in California for 6 years 1951-1957, then he said he also
served 5 years in a Ohio Penitentiary. hold that thought!

later in the article Detective Lee say's he arrested Duane in 1949 and returned
to Ohio were he escaped. so now we have a time frame.

1941-1943 in and out of the service. 2 years total
1944-1948/49 Duane is in the Ohio Penn. and escapes.
1951-1957 he is in a California Prison for 6 years.

1941 to 1957 is a span of 16 years.
add the above and you have 13 years accounted for, not including what ever
time they gave him for the escape.

how was duane involved the the 555 troopers and the CPS camps? the camps are
designed for people who are against war. Duane had no reason to fear the draft?

until I see something Official about Duane's past, I have to go with what I found.

I'm just showing what I have found, it appears to fall in place. if I'm wrong, the
paper is wrong and the Detective is wrong. I just need proof it's wrong.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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"Jerry Thomas, a Vietnam vet, Army survival trainer and drill sergeant, has been looking for D.B. Cooper since 1989. He's spent hundreds of days in the Washougal and Lewis watersheds, sometimes going months at a time searching for clues under the tall trees."

how close do you come to Jerry's skills?
what was the longest search you have done?
do you think Jerry would get lost in the forest like you did?
what inside information do you have on this case?
how is your opinion better than Jerry's?
what do you know about Jerry?
are you friends with Himmelsbach,?
could you possibly sling anymore mud on Jerry?

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That says it all.....another great post, Mrshutter45.

MeyerLouie

Jerry Thomas is an imigment of your facination. Bah, Humbug. Sasquash in drag. I know Jerry Thomas, and he ain't no Jack Kennedy! Hi Jerry. Remember telling me about your character and the gold mine, etc.? Memory like a steel trap, right Shutter?

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"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Palmer's report is very specific! It says: 'the money
was found in the upper active layer of the beach
sand'.

I am completely surprised and actual put off by your statement above. U have NO idea what the UPPER ACTIVE LAYER is means! NOT one IOTA! It can be several inches - every took a walk on the beach - when a person makes a mark with their feet in the sand (I do not mean the impressions at the waterline in wet sand) or builda mound with their toy shovel and bucket - THINK!

So you are disputing the Palmer report? Jo take off
your tinfoil hat!


DUHHH!


[:|[RED]Not what I said - I am disputing your word and your interpretation of Kaye's work.

I do NOT dispute the Palmer Report, but what U said about Kaye's and Palmer's work.

The money was put on the Beach early in the day - no later than 11:00 AM. Do you know where the tide line was during that yr the last wk of Sept or 1st wk of Oct in 1979?

Since U engage in so much useless Crap with Blevins and your statements regarding the find on Tena's bar are deliberately being distorted. WHY? What is your assignment?

Yea, U have an assignment - that is to confuse and dispurse!
That or you have lost the abililty to comprehend certain things.

I have a problem as I age, but the MONEY find - U cannot go back and change history. U can define it, but not change it. Do U know how to contact Mr. H.? Have U ever spoke with him and been to Tena's bar with him?

If not then U need to do so. Remember he was on that beach with Palmer and the other guys in 1980 when the money was found. I was there in 1979 (so I claim)...I went ahead and added that because I can already hear your protests.

As for the bag floating down the river at the Red Lion - I couldn't see it but Duane tracked it until it was out of sight.

The bag thrown into the river at the Red Lion the bag had already been pulled into the main stream and was not floating along the North or South side of the river. I know where he pointed - but I still couldn't see it.

I have told what I saw and what I have heard - No second hand accounting! No after the fact accounting - what I could see.

GO FISHING!

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Palmer thought the Ingram find arrived no more than
a year before, during the flood event (1979) ending
the worst drought in 40 years in 1878. His time is
based on his reading of the strata below the Ingram
find.

Strata equals time, in this matter.

If Palmer misread the strata and the Cooper money
was in a mix of the upper active layer mixed in with
remnants of the 1974 dredge residue sand, then it is
possible the Cooper money was part of the 1974
dredging material or even an earlier material.

Location and strata matters in this issue.

Qualified your prior statement regarding Palmer! Really thought from the prior posting you had really lost it or one of those "plants" from Africa which consumes its prey.

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I found some rather damaging evidence about Weber. I was cleaning
older icons off my desktop when I seen the newspaper article about Duane this is in July of 1957 in regards to his arrest. again, only after being out of
prison 4 months. I started reading and by Duane's own admission he said he was in prison in California for 6 years 1951-1957, then he said he also
served 5 years in a Ohio Penitentiary. hold that thought!

Well, if U were so smart U would know that was ALL cleared up.

I have the SanQuentin/Folsom file. He slip out of the hands of authorities and served his time for "ohio" concurrently with the Folsom/SanQuentin deal. This is in the file!

GO back - I am NOT digging the files out again. He was an escapee from a prison farm...prior to being sentenced to SanQuentin/Folsom.

Mid 1945 to 1949 HAS never been accounted for by the FBI files. We know he was arrested for Petty theft in the East and transported BACK to CA. in 1944 and sentenced to McNeil - a place he was never a resident of.

I have the files and the records.

The other yrs NOT accounted for are 1962 to 1964. I am NOT pulling this shit up to satisfy your find - it has been done in detail in the past!

The assumption was he escaped from the honor farm and this caught up with him when he was sentenced to SanQuentin/Folsom.

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Dumb Criminals do dumb things!
Duane couldn't resist going back to WA. and retrieving what he had left there. Who know what was going thru his mind at that time - I don't. But, it goes along with other DUMB things he did.

NO Duane was NOT in prison in Ohio 1945 to 1949. Late 44 he was picked up in Ohio and they found the outstanding warrant but he was transported back to CA. and sentence to Mc Neil, but did NOT reside there. I have the letters exchanged between the authorities in Columbia and CA and his mother.

The dates on the McNeil file and the information made NO mention of the Ohio incident - because it happened after the release. He was found and sent to an Honor camp from which he escaped.

Therefore the time from 1945 to 1949 is UNACCOUNTED FOR, but in 1949 they sent him to SanQuentin/Folsom and it show the Ohio thing right there - severed concurrently!

No facility had Duane incarcerated from mid 1945 to 1949 - he went under ground in WA - just vanished for about 3 yrs.

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[mrshutter45 21]

nothing jives then Jo, I'm reading Duane saying he did 5 years in Ohio, and a detective reports arresting him in 1949. Duane said this, not them, so how could he have not been in Ohio? couldn't of been prior to 43, you said he escaped, they said he escaped. not much time frame left Jo.

"I have the SanQuentin/Folsom file. He slip out of the hands of authorities and served his time for "ohio" concurrently with the Folsom/SanQuentin deal. This is in the file!"

I have never heard of serving time in another state for a crime in another state. Federal prison's you can pick anywhere you wish, after convicted.

another statement you said Folsom indicates a warrant from Ohio is cancelled in 1954?

so you are saying that Detective Lee never arrested Duane on escape?

just like the knife a couple weeks ago, you swore it had pink material on it, but in 2008 you said the piece there was so small and dirty, I can not see color?

very, very confusing Jo.........

"I have the files and the records."
BK has a 27 foot trailer full of notes, haven't seen those either??

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[mrshutter45 21]

smokin99 found this in 2011.......

From the Canton Repository, Canton, OH
Jan 31, 1949
London, O. - .....Duane Weber, 25, who left the farm's honor camp (smokin sez: this would be the London Prison Farm, London, Ohio) last November, was arrested in St. Petersburg, Fla., for petit larceny and returned here. He was sentenced from Cleveland in 1947 to serve one to seven years for grand larceny. He will have to serve two years extra.

This excerpt was the third paragraph in an article about another fugitive who had turned himself back in to the farm. Looks like this is saying that Duane was sentenced to the farm for grand larceny, 1-7 years in Cleveland, Ohio in 1947 - went awol or was on parole in November 1948 - and was sent back after he got arrested for petty larceny in St. Pete in January, 1949?? Jeez, that boy just couldn't keep from getting caught.

this confirms the 1957 newspaper about sending him back!
two newspapers wrong, detective?
everybody is wrong,right Jo?????????

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[georger 257]

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Palmer thought the Ingram find arrived no more than
a year before, during the flood event (1979) ending
the worst drought in 40 years in 1878. His time is
based on his reading of the strata below the Ingram
find.

Strata equals time, in this matter.

If Palmer misread the strata and the Cooper money
was in a mix of the upper active layer mixed in with
remnants of the 1974 dredge residue sand, then it is
possible the Cooper money was part of the 1974
dredging material or even an earlier material.

Location and strata matters in this issue.

Qualified your prior statement regarding Palmer! Really thought from the prior posting you had really lost it or one of those "plants" from Africa which consumes its prey.

havent the faintest idea what all of your hand signs mean -

five thumbs up means what! ?

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1941-1943 in and out of the service. 2 years total
1944-1948/49 Duane is in the Ohio Penn. and escapes.
1951-1957 he is in a California Prison for 6 years.[

NO.

1941-1943 in Jacksonville - Navy. The to CA. where the family is fighting the Undesirable Discharge - I have the letter exchanges between the mother and the Navy.

He was in the sevice less than 2 yrs. I have the complete Navy file and those dates have been posted. NOT able to pull the files as I am not able to do much right now. Just getting groceries is difficult. Serious problems from the smoke exposure 2 wk-end straight in a row.

He was placed during his time in CA - in a place where they thought they could help him & and he rejoined that group in WA. CPS also took wayward YOUNG men - Check it out! They had other men in the group from prisons - NOT just those who didn't want to go into the service. THAT is DOCUMENTED in my files on the CPS and the various forestry work camps of the time.

They shared living quarters also.
CPS and Wayward young men together - that is how they tried to help. Friends of the family helped arrange this.

After McNeil - is when DUANE goes off the charts after he went back to Ohio and then came up missing from a facililty. There were 2 of them - one made it and the other was caught and returned to the camp. Since the SanQuention file brings up the Ohio incident - they are served concurrrently.

Released on parole in 1957 and then arrested in 1958 in FL (note the FBI never disclosed that - this was found by this Group on the thread). In 1960 he is in CANON CITY, Co and released in 1962. 1962 to 1966 off the charts - NO known incarcerations or employement other than what the family told me and the wife of the time who knew him only as John (Johnnie C. Collins).

Was sent to Jefferson as JOHN COLLINS. Duane Weber did NOT show up until he was released as John Collins. The Duane Weber was NEVER on the Jefferson file until it was made public in this thread. Jefferson told me before the file went POOF! The never had a Duane L. Weber. That detailed file was NOT made available to me until Carr brought it up that it was on line.

What was on line was a santized version. I have the email and note of my conversations with Jefferson where they denied Duane Weber was a resident.

Then after it is on line - they show both names - but if you go to the counties of arrest and then to the attorney offices who handle the John Collins case - he was NOT Duane L. Weber.

In 1969 after Weber is release and goes with his then wife to CO. THEN the FBI came looking for DUANE L. WEBER - Know one knows for what or WHY. The fingerprint system at that time was still in the works - my guess is they finally matched the prints and the 2 names. There have been long posts on the print system - so I just do not argue with them - I remember the article I had read that contradicted the opinion of those on the thread who claimed the system was fully function by 1969. JUST not so. Many of the old case files and prints where NEVER put into the system - not considered relevant.

Duane and his wife and the kids fled to N.O. and Al. Where he worked as a waiter, doorman and other position in N.Orleans (his associations in N.Orleans are suspect, but I refuse to give those details in this thread) and then the COMPANY whose name they do NOT like me publishing hired him in AL. Evidently the FBI didn't want him very badly or they decided off the cuff to let it go with time served, but there are NO records.

Duane did have to go to a northern state to give a deposition (Duane mentioned this and so did the ex-wife) about something he was privey to - maybe he was a snitch to stay out of prison....the stories I have heard indicate this to be true. The files DO NOT mention any of this - but compiled from the Ex-wife....and people who knew him in 1968 in Atlanta Ga....note he worked for an insurance company at that time....some of the characters he associated with have convoluted backgrounds to include skyjumping, pilots, military, airport communications and as one told me "nothing he was proud of".

Then there is this wealty man in Ft Lauderdale who also had a strange life - Duane went to see him twice during our marriage, but I did not go and never met the man. This man was NOT only wealthy and his past was NEVER revealed to me. He evidently was involved in some very heavy stuff!

I do not have a face, but name which I have been told never to state in this thread. Remember Duane did take me to the area one time and the things he told me and this was when he took me to a high end bar on the waterway and spent time with the owner in private...

This man and his friend knew Duane very well. I was not introduced and I was left at the bar while Duane conducted whatever business he had with them...in their private office.

This was the night a yacht picked us up and the Woman was someone from Duane's past. The owner of the restuarant had arranged for the contact. Duane and this woman took their conversation to a private area on this large yacht.

The last name was Meier - not sure of the spelling, but it was with an i and not a y which she pointed out to me. I had friends by the name of Meyer and asked if she was connnected. This is when she told me the spelling of her name was with an i and not a y.

The conversation between she and Duane went to VEGAS and Chicago.

She was out of the CHicago area, but had a home in the Ft. Lauderdale area. They also talked about Canada. WHEN we say yacht - it was large - 3 decks - bedrooms below, mid deck had a bar, large entertainment room with a stage area and I believe a Galley in the back. Then there was the 3rd level I did NOT go on. I was only on the main level only - I know the name of the boat was a big deal with Duane and this woman. I do not remember the name of the boat. She had a husband that had been in some trouble (from the conversation he had done some time) and that is when they took the conversation to the back and left me up front with her companion.

This has been in this thread before....but, I go from memory and not the written word since I am pathetic at searches. My memory is ok - I think, other than stupid things like not remembering where I put the glasses in my cupboard. Do sometimes have a difficult time remembering names and sometimes have to use an alternate word to explain what I am trying to say.

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I found some rather damaging evidence about Weber. I was cleaning
older icons off my desktop when I seen the newspaper article about Duane.
this is in July of 1957 in regards to his arrest. again, only after being out of
prison 4 months. I started reading and by Duane's own admission he said
he was in prison in California for 6 years 1951-1957, then he said he also
served 5 years in a Ohio Penitentiary. hold that thought!

later in the article Detective Lee say's he arrested Duane in 1949 and returned
to Ohio were he escaped. so now we have a time frame.

1941-1943 in and out of the service. 2 years total
1944-1948/49 Duane is in the Ohio Penn. and escapes.
1951-1957 he is in a California Prison for 6 years.

1941 to 1957 is a span of 16 years.
add the above and you have 13 years accounted for, not including what ever
time they gave him for the escape.

how was duane involved the the 555 troopers and the CPS camps? the camps are
designed for people who are against war. Duane had no reason to fear the draft?

until I see something Official about Duane's past, I have to go with what I found.

I'm just showing what I have found, it appears to fall in place. if I'm wrong, the
paper is wrong and the Detective is wrong. I just need proof it's wrong.

Thats Smokin99's old finding - was a great find.

I seriously doubt Duane would have fit in with "any"
organised activity to do anything - military or
otherwise. He was a loner and an opportunist who
learned in prison how to manage risk. Wound up in
insurance/realty as many of these types do.
Congenital medical issues finally got him. A sad case
just as Jo has always described. But no risk taker like
Cooper. (Jo has tried to "sell" it otherwise.)

[mrshutter45 21]

Your statement November 12, 2006
The Certification of Service states for Navy coincides with the other data provided since - with a serial number of 283 56 96
date entered 06-18-41
date released 05-30-42


Public records

Name: Duane L Weber
Birth Year: 1924
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Ohio
State of Residence: Ohio
Enlistment Date: 31 Mar 1943
Enlistment State: Ohio
Enlistment City: Fort Hayes Columbus
Education: 1 year of high school

like I said 1941-1943 in and out of the service.....
either way it's still 2 years.....

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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I seriously doubt Duane would have fit in with "any"
organised activity to do anything - military or
otherwise. He was a loner and an opportunist who
learned in prison how to manage risk. Wound up in
insurance/realty as many of these types do.
Congenital medical issues finally got him. A sad case
just as Jo has always described. But no risk taker like
Cooper. (Jo has tried to "sell" it otherwise.)

Duane never sold real estate - that was me. One takes many risks when they do NOT see a way out. Duane was desperate after the diagnosis. He was afraid he would not be able to work (they lived in 1971 off of 2K). They told him he would be dead in 4-5 yrs in 1970.

Desperation - needing money to stay off the streets and not being able to afford medical treatment. Medicaid - I do not know if that even existed in 1970.

Circumstance such as he was experiencing at that time - can cause one to be a risk taker.
He could choose to die slowly and in poverty or he could go for the big one and maybe survive to enjoy it and if he was caught the prison system would make sure he had medical assistance.

If he bit the dust - he would die quickly and not be on a machine to keep him alive.

WELL, if I was faced with the odds he faced - I think I would have done the same thing! Drastic situations take Drastic actions. If there was medicaid in 1970 I doubt it did little - those in need just suffered and died.

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Jo, you are all over the board......

2011 you said this.
sentenced in 1944 to Mcneil.

2012 you said this...
early part of 1945-he supposedly sent to Mcneil but where did he really go???

exactly what year could Duane have been with the CPS?
again, we are running out of years....

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Education: 1 year of high school
.....

Techincally speaking over 1 yr and not quiet 2, but it makes no difference.

He did have 2 yrs of high school so I don't know where they got the records - maybe he didn't pass to the 3 yr. He was in school, but he was a problem child per the family members I got to talk to and visit with before they died.

He evidently was a TERROR! I was told some stories about his child hood that have been told in the thread.

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Jo, you are all over the board......

2011 you said this.
sentenced in 1944 to Mcneil.

2012 you said this...
early part of 1945-he supposedly sent to Mcneil but where did he really go???

exactly what year could Duane have been with the CPS?
again, we are running out of years....

I am working without notes and with a 73 yr old brain and with some serious health problems right now. I am unable due to my health to access the massive files - most of it is paper.

In CA. if you go back to the post I made about a hard line judge.
I had the papers infront of me at that time. Duane had run-away and was in violation of what-ever it was they had him on (377 should remember this conversation because he was the one who found the sentening records and I think the name of the judge). It was around Nov of 1944 when he was returned to CA for violation of the program he was on...and sentenced in January of 1945 and transported immediately to WA....he was released in June or July of 1945 into a program. According to the agent of record in 1998 Duane was never in the population of McNeil - only passed thru and that matched the story the family told me. Some relative or friend of the family pulled some strings. THE FBI has never revealed where he was if he was not in the population at the prison.

While Duane was in CA in 1943 and 1944 he was working forestry and in camps. They were trying to straighten him out and keep him out of trouble. The parents had a terrible time with him - but his MaMa never gave up on his - that was her change of life baby. His brother was 13 yrs older and his sister 6 yrs older.

I don't see where I am running out of time. 1945 he was in WA.
We loose him until 1949!

THis is ridiculous I have to answer the same question over and over. It is a miracle I am able to do it without my notes and files. If I make a little error in date - for GOD sake man - let up on the attacks.

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Jo, you are all over the board......

2011 you said this.
sentenced in 1944 to Mcneil.

2012 you said this...
early part of 1945-he supposedly sent to Mcneil but where did he really go???

exactly what year could Duane have been with the CPS?
again, we are running out of years....

Returned to CA in Nov or Dec of 1944 and in January 1945 sentenced and transported in days. Didn't take very long back then. Released 6 months later.

Young man things moved faster then that do for u young ones today. The courts didn't linger and it was usually just a judge.
No attorneys tying things up for months.

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nothing jives then Jo, I'm reading Duane saying he did 5 years in Ohio, and a detective reports arresting him in 1949. Duane said this, not them, so how could he have not been in Ohio? couldn't of been prior to 43, you said he escaped, they said he escaped. not much time frame left Jo.

He had just been arrested - he was throwing shit on the wall just like you are doing right now.

It was my understanding the officers felt his past was so convoluted they might not be able to unravel it. WHAT EVER!
You will NOTICE he did NOT go back to Jail - so where the HELL was he from 1958 until 1960 when he was sent to Canon until 1962.

Hey we are missing the yr. 1959 - where was he? What did the Fl system do - did they ship him out someplace else? Even the DAMN FBI could NOT answer that question. These GUYS in FL have a man who had just got out of prison at Treasure Isle - and he had already commited a robbery.
What did the authorities do - LET HIM GO? He had a wealthy UNCLE who had a second winter home there at the time - maybe he worked something out for him. Lyman VanBuren Weber.


Check it out - a chemist for Sherwin William. OH GUESS were Lyman was in 1945 when Duane was in WA? He had been called up the second time, but had 2 children - and served that doing doing public service - GUESS WHERE? Lyman had helped to develope CHEMICAL WAREFARE during WW1.....GUESS what the governernment needed Lyman for?

OK smarty pants - find out the location Lyman did his few months of public service...in 1945 - DARE you find that one out - bet you can't do it! If U do U will then believe that Weber was very likely Cooper. Duane's minor stint with the Army was also CHEMICAL WARFARE.

P.S. even though there are those who claim that Sherwin William out of Chicago had NOTHING to do with the developement or manufacture of the paint for the Boeings - maybe they need to re-LOOK at this. U THINK!

Some company made and provided the paint by contract, Boeing does not manufacture or make paint! THERE are those who call me a liar and yet they are the ones who dismiss real connections to Boeing and perhaps why DUANE WEBER knew a little more about the Boeings than the regular Skyjacker out there!

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We determined it was the last wk of Sept or the 1st wk of Oct 1979.

Possible. You lucked out.

Didn't understand the chart at all, but this dumb broad will try to understand anything or any one if it helps be it a yea nor nay to unravel they past and confession of Duane.

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We determined it was the last wk of Sept or the 1st wk of Oct 1979.

Possible. You lucked out.

Didn't understand the chart at all, but this dumb broad will try to understand anything or any one if it helps be it a yea nor nay to unravel they past and confession of Duane.

It was a chart showing the water level for when you say Duane threw the article into the Columbia ...

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I actually saw and held the Airline ticket.

I had a stub - but never knew the meaning of the SEA TAC stub - could have been a parking ticket or box - I do not know. It was a little blue ticket maybe 2in by 1in. I didn't know what it was. and now I think it was part of an old parachute.

Jo, Any airline ticket paperwork that Duane had in 1971 would be the same size as the ticket that the FBI recovered from NWA.

Your "little blue ticket maybe 2in by 1in" may have been a parking ticket but, if so, it would have a date and time stamped on it. But it didn't have anything to do with a parachute.

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AGAIN ROBERT99:
You do NOT read what I post.

1. There WAS the airline ticket and it was the same as the tickets I was aware of.

2. The stub was a separate item
about 1 inch by 2 inches and blue and it was either a parking ticket or a box ticket. Like a theatre ticket - it said on the ticket SEA TAC. I asked Duane what SEA TAC was - and he told me. Said to throw it away it didn't mean anything. I did, but he retrieved it from the trash can - WHY?

2 separate items and I do NOT remember if there was a time stamp on the little ticket.

The airline ticket was old - because I said - This a really old ticket. Again he said it didn't mean anything....but an hour later he wanted to know what I did with that ticket.

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