DB Cooper

[ParrotheadVol 70]

Blevins, do you know of anywhere online that a person could watch that episode of Adrenaline Hunter? YouTube yielded no results.

I would like to see it, perhaps tomorrow before I watch the Vols beat the piss out of the Gators!!

"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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No - I just sit here and wonder "how much longer
can he go" and then with every cycle of posts he
makes the answer becomes obvious. FOREVER!

Even my posts as long as I have been here are NOT as repetitive as Blevins' posts. He has his information on a drive and uses key words to pull it to the post. Note the words are the same. He will make maybe one of two lines and then the final statement. What is in the middle is the same - usually word for word.

At least I don't do that. Most of my posts are composed from scratch if you can call what I do compose! There are times when I go back to an original post I made and do a copy and paste - but probably not more than a couple of dozen times in the entire thread - I am referring to the context of my own post and not when I am quoting the email I am answering.

I go on and on, but Blevins repeats posts on and on and on and on. Sure wish his battery would run down!

Blevins I am not being unkind, but it is the truth. Now watch the guys start in on me - perhaps no one has anything better to do or have just "plane" run out of options regarding finding any NEW information about Cooper.

Until the FBI POPS the cork - and makes their FILES on Cooper PUBLIC - I am not sure any of you will have anything new to contribute.

The only chance of getting anything new is for me to GO to WA. Just do not know how I can do that. Money and my health stand in my way right now.
I need to go before the snow falls in the mountains near Coure'd Alene and Missoula and in mid Oregon.

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[skyjack71 0]

From your posts regarding Gossett:

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Or an FOIA request to see Gossett's duty log records on the week of the hijacking? Laughed off. This is why I think some people live to discuss the case, but shy away from actually solving it, or at least eliminating suspects.

There also seems to be a problem here with actual witness testimony from living people. More people accept the idea that Gossett supposedly told a judge he was Cooper...but that this statement can't be proven because the judge is dead now, and while he was alive he didn't comment on it. Yet people give that supposed statement a lot of credibility.

You and I and all who know me know that one of the FIRST 1st THINGS I told the FBI was about Duane's dream. It was after the judge died and long after communications I had with Galen that he "invented" the statement with the judge. I have several emails between Galen and myself about this. I was very aware of what he was doing the moment he popped up on that one. Galen in an opportunists!
"Plane" and Simple

I know individuals on this thread communicate with Galen - and all I can say is watch your P's and Q's - I was ON guard almost from the beginning. Little has Galen contributed that he didn't obtain from others. He would not have found TINA had I not had a weak moment. I still have the letter he sent to me with a pic of HIS then suspect which WAS NOT Gossett!. By sending me that Letter he was hoping to EXTRACT the location of TINA from me - it would be several yrs later before I would provide him with the HINT about her divorce papers that led him to her. Something I sorely regret!

You ended you post with a save face statement -
"And...that I am open to the idea of another suspect. If you think about it, this has to be true."

I tell the story about the banker and then you have people stopping you in the stores! The only thing this proves is that the individuals who know us are aware of our involvement....NOT that our suspect is better than the any other.

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When someone is active duty military, you can sometimes trace their movements and locations better.

Blevins, You seem to be under the impression that a comprehensive "log" of the daily activities and locations of active duty military personnel is maintained.

As a paper shuffler during my military service, I can categorically state that no such log was maintained in my time and I have never heard of one being maintained in the first place.

During normal duty hours (which never involved a "log" being kept), the only thing you needed to do was your job and stay out of trouble. Outside normal duty hours, as a general rule, you could come and go on-base or off-base at will except during exceptional circumstances.

As a Senior NCO, Gossett could well do just about whatever he pleased. But it is VERY unlikely that any record such as a "log" would have been kept of his times and locations.

So the absence of a record stating that Gossett was seated at his desk at 8:00 PM on November 24, 1971 doesn't mean anything.

Nothing in the above should give anyone the impression that Gossett was Cooper, and I don't believe he was in the first place.

Robert99

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RobertMBlevins was right about Bethany Rossos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeJAyRgjPvk

I feel wet from watching that! It is so exciting and informative and gutsy without being too butch. What will Bethany do next to enhance her resume and credibility?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvkVF8S3VcA

Wow, I never knew how those things howled before. She sure looks like a DB Cooper expert and is a fine addition to the cadre. RobertMBlevins is certainly judged by the company he keeps, and it is well deserved judgment. What action packed and boner inducing adventure will Ms Rossos be engaged with next?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56jMXoOGaAA

Lawd have mercy, that was so edgy and dangerous around all that industrial equipment operated by a mens. I need to be held. Is there any convention she isn’t afraid to face and destroy like a Dan Cooper comic on Shemya in 1951?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceP6S7mI8DU

Apparently not and with almost one hundred views this year! I’ve got more boners for this subject, the analysis and all the honest and ethical research. Thanks everyone, especially RobertMBlevins, for being so totally cool and credible!

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"The only chance of getting anything new is for me to GO to WA. Just do not know how I can do that. Money and my health stand in my way right now.
I need to go before the snow falls in the mountains near Coure'd Alene and Missoula and in mid Oregon."

All you need do is accept the facts I have provided and all of your questions are answered. EVERYTHING I have told you is the truth as it happened. I have a really hard time trying to understand what it is that makes you not believe what I have said. I may not have everything perfect, but I most definitely have the true story. Must be ego on your part. You admit stuff to me, then deny it on here. Is your image really that important? You blew that long ago. Just accept the fact that Duane was a pawn in a political game, not a mastermind criminal. He did what he was told by TOG and Mac. And I am here to verify exactly that. You come up with more trash nonsense than even Blevins. And THAT is a frickin' record. Just sayin'.

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Bob, all you need to do is produce some facts! you can't even produce anything about yourself!you come on here (constantly) correcting what someone says while never proving a single thing you say!

why did you bring up Bernie Haapala after being caught using David Haapala? Bernie's son!

you refuse to answer any questions put forth to you because you can't!

you claim and show on a map where Cooper landed and then turn around and say Janets story was true, you have Cooper on the ground way before Janet would have seen him! (see Bob's map) keep in mind Bob has everything wrong on his map, Amboy, in wrong location ,Lewis river is wrong, Merwin is wrong, everything in the wrong counties etc.

then when something is said that proves you wrong you lash out like a child making yourself look worse! (comment about Matt's mother) was the worse one yet! and for some unknown reason you are allowed to continue???????

are you ready to talk to a States Attorney yet? or is Mr Squartino too scary for you to go public with about all of your truth?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Bob, all you need to do is produce some facts! you can't even produce anything about yourself!you come on here (constantly) correcting what someone says while never proving a single thing you say!

why did you bring up Bernie Haapala after being caught using David Haapala? Bernie's son!

you refuse to answer any questions put forth to you because you can't!

you claim and show on a map where Cooper landed and then turn around and say Janets story was true, you have Cooper on the ground way before Janet would have seen him! (see Bob's map) keep in mind Bob has everything wrong on his map, Amboy, in wrong location ,Lewis river is wrong, Merwin is wrong, everything in the wrong counties etc.

then when something is said that proves you wrong you lash out like a child making yourself look worse! (comment about Matt's mother) was the worse one yet! and for some unknown reason you are allowed to continue???????

are you ready to talk to a States Attorney yet? or is Mr Squartino too scary for you to go public with about all of your truth?

Yea! I was hoping the creep BK was gone. It is individuals like him that caused the FBI to 'walk' away from Weber. This thread has now seen and experienced what I have experienced with this creep for 12 yrs plus now.

His mind twists and turns and adds things to everything. As you guys have learned BK takes anything said and when it come back at you does NOT even resemble what was said in the first place!

Upon 1st contact with him - he seemed genuine, but then as I started to test him on things he told me - I realized I was up against the "Devil's" advocate.
When he started running to the FBI with his fantasies - it destroyed my credibility with the FBI (if I had any in the first place)!

I will regret the DAY I 1st contacted BK for the rest of my days on this earth - and he may end up being the reason the FBI dropped the investigation of Weber, but I do believe there were some other factors involved - such as the FBI's own faulty investigation of Weber's past.

Now with the "other" stuff I have provided the FBI has had every reason to "look-back" on Weber, but it seems like the rampant crime, fraud and murders going on in the USA puts the investigations of OLD crimes into files labeled (do not investigate).
Not just Cold Case!

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[mrshutter45 21]

the sad thing about old Bob is the fact of him actually believing his story! but so many inconsistencies show his story to be false.

he describes the building he went into down to the color of the walls, this is before they "altered" his mind and turns around and gives several
stories on his exam/Induction period, "was first to go" was one of the last ones there" was on a Saturday? a Government office open on a
Saturday??? only been there once...OOOOOoooKKKKkkkk Bob

this photo I am posting sums Bob up in a nut shell, nothing further can be said!!

the fact of the matter is Bob can't handle the truth! bottom line

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[mrshutter45 21]

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Take The Test LOL.

Why be in doubt? Find out for sure if you're Looney Tunes.

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'Fortunately, I keep my feathers numbered for just such an emergency...'

Foghorn Leghorn

IN my lifetime I have been called a "sick S.O.B." and 'crazy sick Bastard" but have never been told I need professional help, so I'm not sure what
you are implying by me taking this test? perhaps this fits Bob a little better than myself?

my trouble is that dam thing called "common sense" which most don't have, you know the guy who pulls up to the first gas pump leaving the one
in front of him open? or the idiot who feels he is the only one on the road when he pulls in front of you like your not there? or the really mindless
ones who do 60 in a 65 mph zone in the left lane on the highway? maybe I should take the test?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[mrshutter45 21]

No prob, just a little edgy before my first test run on the simulator, I have the weather set and it threw a wrench
into how it flies. I have been practicing without any wind or temp changes so I'm checking to make sure I am correct
with my settings, I have about 5 pages of data I can input into the system.

my first run will be from SEA to Toledo or Maylay Intersection matching the time frames from the data I have, I have done it
before just haven't put the weather in with it. it's a 23 minute flight from SEA to Maylay, let's see what happens with the
weather involved?

speed is the issue with the flaps from 15 to 30 degrees and gear down call for constant speed control. (need a co-pilot)

speed at 160-170 KIAS

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[skyjack71 0]

What-ever Low means that is how I came out except the Obsessive Complusive was Moderate - but, I already know this and anyone who knows me knows this. I openly admit to being obsessive complusive.

I always try to finish what I start and do the best I can regardless of the results. Not to leave a chore undone if it is at all possible to finish it. Just how I was raised! I do not take this to the extremes when it is a trivial or mundane thing that must be done. We all make mistakes - such is life!

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Blevins stated:
When someone is active duty military, you can sometimes trace their movements and locations better.

Robert stated:
Blevins, You seem to be under the impression that a comprehensive "log" of the daily activities and locations of active duty military personnel is maintained.

Blevins surely knows the military do NOT keep logs. Tracing his rank, grade, locations and recognitions will be readily available, but that is about all.

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Jane Dornacker played one of the most interesting characters in the film The Right Stuff...Murch, the stiff-and-starched nurse putting the astronauts through their paces. You remember this bit, right? Nurse Murch hands the astronauts a little cup and points them to the bathroom. She tells them the clinic needs 'it' to determine 'sperm motility factors'.

***'How am I supposed to do that?'

'Visualization, followed by fantasization, seems to have the best results...' (LOL)

In reality, she was a minor rock star, a successful stand up comedianne in San Francisco, and once wrote a song for The Tubes. Finally, she became a traffic copter reporter for a radio station in New York.

One helicopter crash later into a river, (she and the pilot survived by swimming to shore), and she was back out in the skies again in another copter.

Then THIS happened...(*insert theme music from Twilight Zone here*)

She wasn't lucky a second time.

Jeez Blevins...the way you set that up with the twilight zone line, I thought it was a joke. I guess immortality is when people get a vicarious thrill out of listening to your last moments.
Talk about sucking the air out of a room. Not sure why you posted that? That was just sad.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

[mrshutter45 21]

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Yeah it is kind of sad. She was a nice lady, I have heard. It gets worse, too. Not long before she was killed, her husband died suddenly. So...the daughter was left an orphan after the second copter crash. A bunch of folks at the radio station did fund raisers and the daughter eventually received $385,000 in a settlement from the helicopter company. Cause of crash: wrong parts, poor maintenance.

a military part was put on the rotor which did not belong on a civilian chopper causing the blades to seize up, that is the noise you hear in the background, the chopper dropped and hit a fence then went into the river 15-20 feet deep.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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The reason this all came up was because I like the film The Right Stuff, and I thought Nurse Murch was funny...so I checked out who she was in real life.

Found her originally HERE.

(Warning: Some content is heart-wrenching. It's CVR's and other related stuff.)


"If I'd observed all the rules, I'd never have got anywhere..."

Marilyn Monroe

Move on -

[georger 267]

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The reason this all came up was because I like the film The Right Stuff, and I thought Nurse Murch was funny...so I checked out who she was in real life.

Found her originally HERE.

(Warning: Some content is heart-wrenching. It's CVR's and other related stuff.)


"If I'd observed all the rules, I'd never have got anywhere..."

Marilyn Monroe

Move on -

And I should listen to you WHY?

Move on is a great suggestion. To what? More of your insults, your false quotes, your radio interviews that don't exist?

You'll have to give me a hint. Or read Miss Manners.

WOW! such bitterness. Egotistical smarm. Contempt!
You're not moving on at all!

I thought it was you who ordered all of us to "move on" ?

Yes it is difficult to move on when you have nothing
to move on with - I wondered how you were going to
fulfill your command for all of us to move on, since
it is you who can't!

So to remind you - here's your post below. Telling us
to "move on" .... you must have been kidding or
hosing us again.

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------------------------------------------------------------Lyle Christiansen was a very small part of the investigation on his brother. A few pictures, he gave a name. Everything that happened after that had nothing to do with him. He simply pointed toward his brother and other people took it from there. He didn't interview anyone, he didn't research documents. This small-town senior citizen approached Nora Ephron because frankly, he just didn't know what else to do. We're talking about a retired Post Office worker who just suspected his brother might be Cooper. It was actually Geoff Gray who did the initial work on this, not me. I took it as far as I could, and that's all there is. Do I know if his brother was really Cooper? No.

Moving on now? "

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And I should listen to you WHY?

Because I have the facts you are missing - or dont care to have others have.

Hint: Radio program 2007. Lyle admits the Kenny
story was all made up.

Program participant was: a phD associate professor
of communications at a prominent university - who
has been following the Cooper saga of cultists like
you, for years. He's well acquainted with your mind
games schtik.

Yes Blevins. Its a bit out of your league. I wouldnt
tangle with the guy if I were you. He's likely to ruin
your credibility!

Take your own advice: Move on -

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Blevins stated:
When someone is active duty military, you can sometimes trace their movements and locations better.

Robert stated:
Blevins, You seem to be under the impression that a comprehensive "log" of the daily activities and locations of active duty military personnel is maintained.

Blevins surely knows the military do NOT keep logs. Tracing his rank, grade, locations and recognitions will be readily available, but that is about all.

Interesting. My 21 years of actual service seems to match Blevins version of accountability formations and reports better than the others.

Maybe things changed, but daily reports are kept today, and have been since I joined. Even My MACVSOG Uncle says it was this way when he served, so that goes back to '62 for the Army.

The report was basic, "110 assigned, 110 Present"
If there was a difference then that would be annotated.

"110 assigned, 105 Present. 2 Sick Bay, 2 TDY, 1 Awol" Then those NAMES would be listed "Sick Bay-Jones, Smith. TDY- Martin, Jones, A. AWOL-Johnson since 12 May 71"

Maybe the Folks who don't remember this are not putting the "Morning Report" and Morning Formation together.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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Interesting. My 21 years of actual service seems to match Blevins version of accountability formations and reports better than the others.
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Maybe the Folks who don't remember this are not putting the "Morning Report" and Morning Formation together.

Matt

I was in the 82nd Airborne, 1960 to '62. I was in HQ of the DivArty. There were various clerks in the HQ personnel office who kept track of everything Matt writes about...and probably a whole lot more. The Morning Formation represented the actual head count that went into the "Report". Guys in HQ combined all the reports from the 6 artillery units into a much larger report.

They kept track of huge amounts of information with paper and pencil.

Guru312

I am not DB Cooper

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Blevins stated:
When someone is active duty military, you can sometimes trace their movements and locations better.

Robert stated:
Blevins, You seem to be under the impression that a comprehensive "log" of the daily activities and locations of active duty military personnel is maintained.

Blevins surely knows the military do NOT keep logs. Tracing his rank, grade, locations and recognitions will be readily available, but that is about all.

Interesting. My 21 years of actual service seems to match Blevins version of accountability formations and reports better than the others.

Maybe things changed, but daily reports are kept today, and have been since I joined. Even My MACVSOG Uncle says it was this way when he served, so that goes back to '62 for the Army.

The report was basic, "110 assigned, 110 Present"
If there was a difference then that would be annotated.

"110 assigned, 105 Present. 2 Sick Bay, 2 TDY, 1 Awol" Then those NAMES would be listed "Sick Bay-Jones, Smith. TDY- Martin, Jones, A. AWOL-Johnson since 12 May 71"

Maybe the Folks who don't remember this are not putting the "Morning Report" and Morning Formation together.

Matt

Matt and Guru,

I prepared more than 500 Morning Reports for my independent unit during my relatively brief military experience.

My reports included entries for everything from "Duty to AWOL eff XXXX" to "Duty to death eff XXXX - LD yes" and every other type of entry.

Those reports do NOT give a detailed hour-by-hour accounting of each individual in the unit. It was not their purpose to do that.

The Morning Report was concerned with the official status of each individual that was assigned, attached, or whatever, to the unit making the Morning Report. As such, the Morning Report was a part of the permanent military records that were retained by the Department of the Army according to the requirements of their files retention program.

In the case of Gossett, even if he was involved in a morning formation, there may not be a record of that in any report or file. Other than the Morning Report information, the absence of a record on what Gossett was doing on November 24, 1971 doesn't mean anything in itself.

You are not going to find an entry for Gossett that says anything like "Absent in Portland, Oregon to hijack an airliner".

Robert99

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Blevins stated:
When someone is active duty military, you can sometimes trace their movements and locations better.

Robert stated:
Blevins, You seem to be under the impression that a comprehensive "log" of the daily activities and locations of active duty military personnel is maintained.

Blevins surely knows the military do NOT keep logs. Tracing his rank, grade, locations and recognitions will be readily available, but that is about all.

Interesting. My 21 years of actual service seems to match Blevins version of accountability formations and reports better than the others.

Maybe things changed, but daily reports are kept today, and have been since I joined. Even My MACVSOG Uncle says it was this way when he served, so that goes back to '62 for the Army.

The report was basic, "110 assigned, 110 Present"
If there was a difference then that would be annotated.

"110 assigned, 105 Present. 2 Sick Bay, 2 TDY, 1 Awol" Then those NAMES would be listed "Sick Bay-Jones, Smith. TDY- Martin, Jones, A. AWOL-Johnson since 12 May 71"

Maybe the Folks who don't remember this are not putting the "Morning Report" and Morning Formation together.

Matt

the same would be for the prison system, they would have logs as to when the prisoners went out on work duty, they would typically do the "dirty work" and was told not to talk to others (security reasons) if a road was built, guess who clears the brush, and this would not give the prisoner any clue as to how to build that road or learn how it's done!

It's not a trade school...it's prison!!!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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True, not an hour by hour report, not unless there is a note he is in "X school", then you would have to look at the Schools daily training schedule.

It is daily report, so you can track everyone's whereabouts every 24 hours. Then add Travel orders for Schools, TDY, Unit business, leave, etc, one can make a pretty good time line of a persons whereabouts.

Of course after discharge, this starts to be harder, as daily reports slowly get lost, disposed of, and misplaced, as storage space is a premium.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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And I should listen to you WHY?

Because I have the facts you are missing - or dont care to have others have.

Hint: Radio program 2007. Lyle admits the Kenny
story was all made up.

Program participant was: a phD associate professor
of communications at a prominent university - who
has been following the Cooper saga of cultists like
you, for years. He's well acquainted with your mind
games schtik.

Yes Blevins. Its a bit out of your league. I wouldnt
tangle with the guy if I were you. He's likely to ruin
your credibility!

Take your own advice: Move on -

Show me where Lyle Christiansen provided ANY proof whatsoever that his brother was the hijacker. He simply named him as a suspect. He's never lived in Washington, and wasn't that familiar with the people Kenny knew.

This is why Lyle is only minimally mentioned in the book.

It was Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous who first investigated Kenny, not his brother. I followed that up with interviews of the people Kenny knew, and retrieved a couple of tax documents, as well as some additional pictures from people like Helen Jones. Lyle Christiansen was asked to provide whatever documents he had on Kenny. Some of those went directly to me, others went to Porteous and then to me. All of them are now in a set of files in my office.

And excuse me for saying...but if you and your PHD friend are so smart, why haven't you figured out who the hijacker was yet? And why haven't you been able to discredit the testimony of people like Helen Jones, her daughter, Margie and Bernie Geestman, Geestman's sister, and others? Did they just 'make up' everything, too? The only one on that list whose story(s) didn't check out was Bernard Wayne Geestman.

Let's discuss Mr Geestman one more time for a moment. This is a guy who went on and on about his friendship with Kenny, and then turned white as a ghost when he found out I was investigating the Cooper case.

This is a guy who was pointed to in six separate interviews by his own ex-wife as being involved in the hijacking.

This is a guy who had just met me on his front porch, but when he found out I was going to drive up 400 miles to Twisp to interview his ex for the first time, he wanted to come along for the ride.

This is a guy who was named by at least three separate witnesses (who live many miles apart and hadn't heard from each other in years) as gone missing over the week of the crime...with Christiansen.

This is a guy who lied about his work schedule with Foss Tugs in an attempt to alibi his whereabouts in November 1971.

This is a guy who tried to tell History Channel execs he hardly knew Kenny and thought he was a dishwasher, but when confronted, agreed to come onto the television show. When he did, he said he and Kenny were good friends, he was at Kenny's deathbed, and yes...Kenny COULD be the hijacker.

Of course, that last statement by Geestman poses a really big question. How could he volunteer that Kenny could be the hijacker when multiple witnesses place him WITH Kenny over the date of the hijacking? Kind of a rock and a hard place thing going there.

This is a guy who said he didn't know anything really about how Kenny got his house or how his sister got five grand from Kenny. Yet he was the one who asked Kenny for the money and delivered it to his sister, and the house was purchased from a couple where Geestman served as their Best Man. More lies from Mr Peanut Gallery, who has made a science of deception since the start, even attempting to get his own sister to lie, which she refused to do. Do you really believe he did all THAT in an attempt to hide some gay sex thing from forty years ago? I think not. And there has never been a hint, nor a shred of testimony or evidence that Bernard Geestman was anything but straight. At least in his sex life. If you are speaking about HONESTY, that is a different matter entirely.

Radio interview, my butt. Virtually zip in the investigation on Christiansen has anything to do with his brother. And I will remind you that it's been FIVE YEARS since 2007, and a lot more has been discovered since that time about Christiansen, as well as the people he knew. You can try to write him off as a suspect with weak junk like some *alleged* radio interview with Lyle, but you'll have to do better than that.

As I've said many times, I haven't been able to prove KC was the guy. Sure, I kind of wonder about it sometimes. But the smoking gun just isn't there. Maybe someday Bernie Geestman will try a little honesty and then we will know one way or another. One of the problems is although a number of people in Kenny's life may hold a piece or two of the puzzle, I believe there are only THREE people who know the complete truth on what happened that Thanksgiving week...and one of them is dead.

Edit for Everyone Else: As far as the Gossett thing and the US Army, probably the better approach would be to interview people Gossett served with at Fort Lewis in November 1971. See if they alibi him, or remember if he was around the base or not that day. Just about everyone in Western Washington who is old enough and were here (Fort Lewis is a bit south of Seattle) remembers what they were doing the day of the hijacking...kind of like when St Helens blew up.

Actually this is a good summary/anouncement of
your alter-ego above - how could anyone have
predicted you would say and use this hedge.
(laughing )

You are now announcing: that the KC investigation
has evolved, and is no longer dependent on Lyle!

That the KC investigation by you, Geoff Gray, and
Porteous all dovetails and forms a comprehensive
cohesive whole proving KC is a viable suspect in
... in any crime you want! Users get to select the
crime.

Who at AB Books came up wirth that "hedge fund" ?

And anything Lyle said or did is now irrelevant to the
"current state" of the KC crime case.

I am sure you realise that once you've made a
statement like that, you can't go back, because your
credibility will suffer and people would laugh, but
that is irrelevant also. In your world there are no
rules and no accountability.

And since you have been tossing the names of
Geoff Gray and Porteous around so freely, the three
of you were always working together, as it were. and
still are, as it wre. And you are speaking for Geoff
Gray and Mr. Porteous in the present tense, of
course! Gray and Porteous have been silent for a
long time with you doing all the talking, of course.
It only makes sense you have been speaking for
them ... and Crown Publishing?

All of the above is what you meant by "let's move
on". It was your original plan - correct? Smart guy!

I can see where this is heading if it didn't already
arrive two uears ago when you first stopped in here.

Not only is Lyle now irrelevant, if he always was, but
the FBI and all other facts and factors in the DB
Cooper case are (and always were) irrelevant also.
The day of Blevinism arrived two years ago or in
2009, and Blevinism supplants, replaces, and
trumps everything, as you will claim. That has been
you claim all along - yes? And the reason for your
high confidence calling everyone in your path, liars!

All cultists make similar claims, Mr. RobertMBlevins -
and you are no exception, just before they start a
war on somebody.

Where the fuck are your troops? Wise guy.

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True, not an hour by hour report, not unless there is a note he is in "X school", the you would have to look at the Schools daily training schedule.

It is daily report, so you can track everyone's whereabouts every 24 hours. The add Travel orders for Schools, TDY, Unit business, leave etc, one can make a pretty god time line of a persons whereabouts.

Of course after discharge, this starts to be harder, as daily reports slowly get lost, disposed of, and misplaced.

Matt

Rather than claims and trying to extrapolate to the
whole US military from individual experiences and
empty suppositions/claims, maybe look at the
actual evidence, if available.

But never let that deter you, take one instance of a
thing to make claims about the whole universe.

There are people who worked with and knew Gossett
personally - yes? One of them used to be here.
(Good gorsh!). Maybe they have an opinion?

I dont think Mr Blevins cares a whit about Gossett
or any of this. The goal of the poster is defeating
people - Marla etal - now Cook. That is the real
gambit here being promoted by one poster. I think
the Cooper case and all of its facets are just a "tool"
being used by a "troll" who has nothing better to do
who attacks people and gets some vicarious thrill
out of pretending superiority.

In order to determine if Gossett could have been
gone without any record of it, you have to talk to the
people who were there and see the records - yes?

Will the poster goto tat trouble or do that? No! All he
wants is to plant a question he has no intention of
actually answering, sow chaos and doubt, and a pre-
determined result whether accurate or not.

The whole Cooper case is full of this kind of empty
speculation without any resolution. It is ripe territory
for book promoters!

"You will know a thing by its fruits." - Marilyn Monroe.