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QuoteGeorger: Sorry, but I'm no longer clicking your image links.
As far as the symposium, maybe you would have tossed out the local writers to do Cooper, but I decided against it. Needs to be a separate event, not a part of Auburn Days. Renting the Ave is no big deal. And if you don't charge people money, it's a LOT less than the standard $278 fee per day to rent the theatre. I wasn't planning to charge money, so I could rent it for the whole weekend...and WITHOUT 10,000 people milling around the streets. Before they asked me to take over Adventures in Literature, that theatre was getting less than thirty people seated. Pretty useless with such a crowd outside. I changed the program and attendance will definitely go UP. But that is a literary event, and really shouldn't be a Cooper Thing. That's my decision and there it stays. Better for Cooper, better for Auburn Days. THOSE folks don't come downtown to sit in the theatre. They come to listen to the live music all weekend, eat junk food, watch the parade, do the dance on Main Street on Saturday night. Cooper is the farthest thing from their minds.
Are you saying you have interest in a symposium at the Ave? You SUPPORT it? If you don't, your comments make no sense, since it sounds like you regret I didn't do Cooper this Saturday. You would have walked 16 miles to attend? You should contact Geoff Gray and ask him his opinion on a second symposium. Website link.
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Re: Geestman
According to IMDB, he would be 86 years old. Do you even know if he's still alive?
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Yes, he's alive. I spoke to his sister and her family about ten days ago. He's fine. Still living up near Port Angeles, WA with that woman.
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With that woman?
Dont you live in sin?
Ill bet you click this image! Better read the note,
and give it back when ur done, Rev. Blevins. When
will the money and the chutes be ready ?
PS: The lens you and DECODED offered to the world
is a distorted image! Myopic, selective, and filtered
for affect. People do NOT live in a vacuum you have
portrayed. Revise your doctrine and your message,
Rev. Billy-Bob Blevins.
QuoteQuote
Remember I was addressing a line in Jo's post, for proper context .
REMEMBER - I quoted that from the article that was written - all I had was the hard copy and the statement I made was a quote from that article. I know NOTHING about skyjumping!
I know, I stated I was addressing that line.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
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http://www.triplenickle.com/history.htm
Plus, at a 555 Reunion a few years ago, I had the honor of a discussion with a few of the pioneering gents, when they asked about my ABN career we discussed Pre-jump briefings and what we state for Tree Landings, one of them responded, that our briefing was because in training, they learned not to lower the gear, if they had any on, and if they did to jettison it and make a mental note of where it landed to be recovered.
Matt
DUHH!
Matt there were videos and stories told about Derry training these guys to fightfires before there were smokejumpers. I think you need to look at history and not what someone told you.
Where you talking to one of 3 originals who are last I heard still alive today. NOT the one's who came later - this was in the mid 1940' before the first smokejumper were formed.
Check YOUR facts. I don't have the time. I am fighting trying to stay out of the hospital and I have a lot to discuss. What I have said above has been DOCUMENTED - but, right now unable to go find the details.
Can bearly use my right hand tonight or to sit her very long.
So you didn't read article where they talk about 1939 as the testing and 1940 when they first used smoke jumpers?
The gentlemen I spoke too all claimed to have been in the BN at the time of the move to the NW. Only one, the Coordinator of our jumps, was in the association after the 555th Deactivated.
I didn't post any thing incorrect, and you're right, you know nothing of "skyjumping" and are in need of some one who does too help you sort it out, since you dismiss my experience and expertise, you'll need to find one.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
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If Duane was smart enough to pull this off, I don't think he would be spending the money one month after the hijacking, seems Duane has been all over the place and just so happen to also be in the Washington area.
what was the charges against Duane, if it was theft, this could explain the random amounts of money at different times and spending spree's of cars etc.
you have him in Va, NY, SC, LA, WA, AZ, GA, OH, FL, probably more, don't you think maybe it's just a coincidence that he was in the WA area? you have to understand why the FBI is not looking at Duane, I just don't see any links? it's also possible the FBI looked more than they are telling you.
what was the charges against Duane, if it was theft, this could explain the random amounts of money at different times and spending spree's of cars etc.
you have him in Va, NY, SC, LA, WA, AZ, GA, OH, FL, probably more, don't you think maybe it's just a coincidence that he was in the WA area? you have to understand why the FBI is not looking at Duane, I just don't see any links? it's also possible the FBI looked more than they are telling you.
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI
You need to check YOUR facts!
Yrs ago I was contacted and I have not been able to tell anyone what I was told (souce #1). I believed the source to be reliable so I checked it out and the second party was real.
I have kept my notes regarding the 2 conversations I had with the second party. Email was not used as a source of contact with the second party.
Without revealing who I was talking to this is a summary:
I spoke with a man employed at one time with CIA. I could NOT reveal what the 1st party told me. I question the 2ed party about a story I had been told regarding this 2ed party and Cooper being employed by the CIA to steal planes in Mexico and deliver them to operators in S. America - it is important to state this information did NOT come from the second party...something the 1st party had knowledge of.
I thought the story was Poppy Cock - I cannot reveal HOW I acquired this information or who I spoke to. Because I was under much stress, the second party found it within his heart to tell me enough to let me know I was sane. Talking to me was NOT without possible penalties and undesirable consequences...I had to go thru loops to contact him...he was very careful about what he told me...neither confirming or denying what the 1st party told me.
I was told that DIGGING into the matter was not a WISE thing to do. I actually only got 'vague' answers to my questions. The man held a very high position and was known to have heart and be honest....I think he was thinking "What if this was my wife - what would I want her to known".
Part II
Prior to this I had received UNTRACE-ABLE emails basically telling me the same and was provided some information that led to my first contact with Tina. I researched what I had, to be sure the information regarding Tina was not a hoax.
I thought the email leading me to Tina came from within the FBI itself and not the same source as above. Who else would know the information I was provided?
I acquired Tina's address and phone number 2 yrs prior to my contact with the second party I referred to earlier. I have used the location of her divorce as a ruse - so NO ONE would know exactly how I actually found her.
Knowing the county and state of her divorce I learned after the fact - but, used that as a ruse when I was questioned and drilled for yrs by Galen Cook to obtain the information from me. Galen Cook knew I knew how to contact her and was unrelenting in his methods and co-ersions to extract her contact information from me. Finally I relented, but only told him were to find her divorce papers - he needed to do a little work of his own!
NOW, you guys KNOW how I REALLY found Tina before anyone else. All I can tell you is the Tina information came under the quise of "RobbieClampett" in an untraceable manner. This information stopped 3 months before a certain High Ranking individual deceased.
I have sat on the above details for a very long time and used a ruse without actually telling a lie about how I received Tina's location prior to my contact with the above.
NOW you guys know the REST of the Story! How I found Tina before anyone else! Also why I know Duane was involved in something besides just being a skyjacker and con-man.
The story about planes - was actually part of the story regarding Ed Horan - another Mystery man who seemed to VANISH.....Ed was sick and talking when he should not have been....but, I did as he asked and never mentioned to Duane the short conversation he and I had in 1978 in Denver. Ed is the man who 3/4 yrs later WOULD not let me take his picture until Duane pulled him aside. I asked Duane what he told the man to get him to consent to my making the photo.
Duane answered with "I told him it was for our own private album and NO one would ever see it".
Now that is ODD the man did NOT want his picture taken. I have posted it in this thread because I could not find him and since he was in bad health in 1978 and 1982 was the last time Duane and I saw him....it was conceivable he was deceased. Now believe Ed Horan was not his REAL name.
Ed (in 1978) had told me about WA and the N.W. and he knew Duane from there and he talked about helicopters and planes. I had been left with ED for about 15 minutes while Duane went to get some medication for him in 1978.
Ed REALIZE he had rambled too much and had me swear not to mention the conversation to Duane and that Duane would tell him in his own time about this.
Yrs ago I was contacted and I have not been able to tell anyone what I was told (souce #1). I believed the source to be reliable so I checked it out and the second party was real.
I have kept my notes regarding the 2 conversations I had with the second party. Email was not used as a source of contact with the second party.
Without revealing who I was talking to this is a summary:
I spoke with a man employed at one time with CIA. I could NOT reveal what the 1st party told me. I question the 2ed party about a story I had been told regarding this 2ed party and Cooper being employed by the CIA to steal planes in Mexico and deliver them to operators in S. America - it is important to state this information did NOT come from the second party...something the 1st party had knowledge of.
I thought the story was Poppy Cock - I cannot reveal HOW I acquired this information or who I spoke to. Because I was under much stress, the second party found it within his heart to tell me enough to let me know I was sane. Talking to me was NOT without possible penalties and undesirable consequences...I had to go thru loops to contact him...he was very careful about what he told me...neither confirming or denying what the 1st party told me.
I was told that DIGGING into the matter was not a WISE thing to do. I actually only got 'vague' answers to my questions. The man held a very high position and was known to have heart and be honest....I think he was thinking "What if this was my wife - what would I want her to known".
Part II
Prior to this I had received UNTRACE-ABLE emails basically telling me the same and was provided some information that led to my first contact with Tina. I researched what I had, to be sure the information regarding Tina was not a hoax.
I thought the email leading me to Tina came from within the FBI itself and not the same source as above. Who else would know the information I was provided?
I acquired Tina's address and phone number 2 yrs prior to my contact with the second party I referred to earlier. I have used the location of her divorce as a ruse - so NO ONE would know exactly how I actually found her.
Knowing the county and state of her divorce I learned after the fact - but, used that as a ruse when I was questioned and drilled for yrs by Galen Cook to obtain the information from me. Galen Cook knew I knew how to contact her and was unrelenting in his methods and co-ersions to extract her contact information from me. Finally I relented, but only told him were to find her divorce papers - he needed to do a little work of his own!
NOW, you guys KNOW how I REALLY found Tina before anyone else. All I can tell you is the Tina information came under the quise of "RobbieClampett" in an untraceable manner. This information stopped 3 months before a certain High Ranking individual deceased.
I have sat on the above details for a very long time and used a ruse without actually telling a lie about how I received Tina's location prior to my contact with the above.
NOW you guys know the REST of the Story! How I found Tina before anyone else! Also why I know Duane was involved in something besides just being a skyjacker and con-man.
The story about planes - was actually part of the story regarding Ed Horan - another Mystery man who seemed to VANISH.....Ed was sick and talking when he should not have been....but, I did as he asked and never mentioned to Duane the short conversation he and I had in 1978 in Denver. Ed is the man who 3/4 yrs later WOULD not let me take his picture until Duane pulled him aside. I asked Duane what he told the man to get him to consent to my making the photo.
Duane answered with "I told him it was for our own private album and NO one would ever see it".
Now that is ODD the man did NOT want his picture taken. I have posted it in this thread because I could not find him and since he was in bad health in 1978 and 1982 was the last time Duane and I saw him....it was conceivable he was deceased. Now believe Ed Horan was not his REAL name.
Ed (in 1978) had told me about WA and the N.W. and he knew Duane from there and he talked about helicopters and planes. I had been left with ED for about 15 minutes while Duane went to get some medication for him in 1978.
Ed REALIZE he had rambled too much and had me swear not to mention the conversation to Duane and that Duane would tell him in his own time about this.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
I actually came into the thread to post more of the logs, but MatthewClines' post TICKED me off.
So I did MORE and decided to let the CAT out of the BAG.
I believe we have 2 individuals posting that are here for only one purpose. I am not going to make any accusations, but their positions seem to change consistenly and when one in particular reads or thinks I may have posted something that would jeopardize whatever their "assignment" is then one in particular tries to make me sound like I haven't got a clue.
Perhaps he does NOT realize we have a couple of very very swift jumpers from the past who monitor this thread.
When anyone gets close - this one person makes sure the information is distorted and made to sound "futile". He built his reputation here on his supposed knowledge, but the old timers have seen thur his guise.
When this young whipper snapper starts talking Nickles he better go back to school. He needs to do the math again.
When he starts talking the developement of the Chutes use before the Nickles became the Nickles - he needs to go back and retake the class.
Next thing we know he will be declaring he knew Derry the man who DEVELOPED the chutes and the method and who TAUGHT these guys BEFORE the Nickels was even formed. They did NOT become the Nickles until after Derry met with them and they went thru his rigid training. The smoke Jumpers was NOT until 1945. As Lloyd and Floyd - they are both still alive. Go to the Smokejumper museum.
Floyd has OLD TIMERS, but Lloyed was still sharp the last time I spoke to him a few months ago.
So MatthewCline - have a little fun chewing on your own tongue for awhile. Perhaps you just MISHEARD - or where too young to understand.
So I did MORE and decided to let the CAT out of the BAG.
I believe we have 2 individuals posting that are here for only one purpose. I am not going to make any accusations, but their positions seem to change consistenly and when one in particular reads or thinks I may have posted something that would jeopardize whatever their "assignment" is then one in particular tries to make me sound like I haven't got a clue.
Perhaps he does NOT realize we have a couple of very very swift jumpers from the past who monitor this thread.
When anyone gets close - this one person makes sure the information is distorted and made to sound "futile". He built his reputation here on his supposed knowledge, but the old timers have seen thur his guise.
When this young whipper snapper starts talking Nickles he better go back to school. He needs to do the math again.
When he starts talking the developement of the Chutes use before the Nickles became the Nickles - he needs to go back and retake the class.
Next thing we know he will be declaring he knew Derry the man who DEVELOPED the chutes and the method and who TAUGHT these guys BEFORE the Nickels was even formed. They did NOT become the Nickles until after Derry met with them and they went thru his rigid training. The smoke Jumpers was NOT until 1945. As Lloyd and Floyd - they are both still alive. Go to the Smokejumper museum.
Floyd has OLD TIMERS, but Lloyed was still sharp the last time I spoke to him a few months ago.
So MatthewCline - have a little fun chewing on your own tongue for awhile. Perhaps you just MISHEARD - or where too young to understand.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
We have one person who has been here for a while who very seldom posts, but this person is a GOVERNMENT employee - does very secret work, he can not even discuss.
Is this Thread being MONITORED!
Perhaps Cline is a DECOY!
Hey Amazon - WHAT DO YOU THINK about all of this.
Tick JO off and she spills the beans - do these guys think I am a "REAL" DUMB BLONDE!
Sorry GUYS but I got fed up tonight! I'm running out of time and don't need to have my chain pulled with information that defies what is publically known and what I have researched for 16 yrs. If we believe what MatthewCline is now saying - we would need to rewrite history!
MatthewCline you will not use up what energy I have left with trivial crap like this again. Amazon tried to let you know how far off base you were - but you didn't know WHO you were dealing with did you?
Perhaps that was your goal - to find out if the old lady really knows anything! Or was your mission to gain confidence of the posters and then lead them into the forest with false directions so they would get lost again....to lead Cooperites wandering the forests and then the desert for another 40 yrs - NOT going to happen!
Cooper acted as a lone Wolf, but he was involved in some "other Stuff" - that does NOT mean he was CIA, but the CIA and the Government used paid informants. They hired so called Soldier's of Fortune to do some dirty work. Cooper was a rogue - he was made promises NOT kept and so he just Took what he considered fair payment.
Note: I did NOT say Weber was Cooper!
Is this Thread being MONITORED!
Perhaps Cline is a DECOY!
Hey Amazon - WHAT DO YOU THINK about all of this.
Tick JO off and she spills the beans - do these guys think I am a "REAL" DUMB BLONDE!
Sorry GUYS but I got fed up tonight! I'm running out of time and don't need to have my chain pulled with information that defies what is publically known and what I have researched for 16 yrs. If we believe what MatthewCline is now saying - we would need to rewrite history!
MatthewCline you will not use up what energy I have left with trivial crap like this again. Amazon tried to let you know how far off base you were - but you didn't know WHO you were dealing with did you?
Perhaps that was your goal - to find out if the old lady really knows anything! Or was your mission to gain confidence of the posters and then lead them into the forest with false directions so they would get lost again....to lead Cooperites wandering the forests and then the desert for another 40 yrs - NOT going to happen!
Cooper acted as a lone Wolf, but he was involved in some "other Stuff" - that does NOT mean he was CIA, but the CIA and the Government used paid informants. They hired so called Soldier's of Fortune to do some dirty work. Cooper was a rogue - he was made promises NOT kept and so he just Took what he considered fair payment.
Note: I did NOT say Weber was Cooper!
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
QuoteIf Duane was smart enough to pull this off, I don't think he would be spending the money one month after the hijacking, seems Duane has been all over the place and just so happen to also be in the Washington area.
what was the charges against Duane, if it was theft, this could explain the random amounts of money at different times and spending spree's of cars etc.
you have him in Va, NY, SC, LA, WA, AZ, GA, OH, FL, probably more, don't you think maybe it's just a coincidence that he was in the WA area? you have to understand why the FBI is not looking at Duane, I just don't see any links? it's also possible the FBI looked more than they are telling you.
Remember others refer to Weber as Dumb because he always got caught! It is the timing of the acquired monies - and the complete picture. You do NOT take Weber in small doses - doesn't work.
You don't understand the sequence or the reason for all of these places and I am too tired to try to explain it. Remember they were all over the map...but, it is the actual order of these places that speaks volumes - especially when you know what was happening and when..
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Robert99 57
QuoteWe have one person who has been here for a while who very seldom posts, but this person is a GOVERNMENT employee - does very secret work, he can not even discuss.
Is this Thread being MONITORED!
Perhaps Cline is a DECOY!
Hey Amazon - WHAT DO YOU THINK about all of this.
Tick JO off and she spills the beans - do these guys think I am a "REAL" DUMB BLONDE!
Sorry GUYS but I got fed up tonight! I'm running out of time and don't need to have my chain pulled with information that defies what is publically known and what I have researched for 16 yrs. If we believe what MatthewCline is now saying - we would need to rewrite history!
MatthewCline you will not use up what energy I have left with trivial crap like this again. Amazon tried to let you know how far off base you were - but you didn't know WHO you were dealing with did you?
Perhaps that was your goal - to find out if the old lady really knows anything! Or was your mission to gain confidence of the posters and then lead them into the forest with false directions so they would get lost again....to lead Cooperites wandering the forests and then the desert for another 40 yrs - NOT going to happen!
Cooper acted as a lone Wolf, but he was involved in some "other Stuff" - that does NOT mean he was CIA, but the CIA and the Government used paid informants. They hired so called Soldier's of Fortune to do some dirty work. Cooper was a rogue - he was made promises NOT kept and so he just Took what he considered fair payment.
Note: I did NOT say Weber was Cooper!
Jo, Have you become Bob Knoss in drag?
Is this thread being monitored? Of course! It can be monitored by anyone with enough energy to work their way to DZ.com. You don't even have to log in if you don't want to bother.
Is Matt Cline a decoy? A decoy for what?
Is Amazon a secret agent? If she is, the rest of us (including you) will be the last to know. I must admit that I have suspected the same what with all the parachuting, sailing, and who knows what else that she has done. She must be up to something.
"Note: I did not say that Weber was Cooper!" That is exactly what you have been saying for years and years!
You are even so highly impressed with your own "research" proving that Weber was Cooper that you recently repeated some of your "golden oldies" posts to that effect.
And what about calling yourself "Mrs. Cooper" and your recent mention that you were considering doing that again.
Jo, Just between you and me, the further you get yourself out on the limb about Weber being Cooper and you being "Mrs. Cooper" the more egg you are going to have to wipe off your face when the real Cooper is identified.
And his name will not be Weber, Ken Christenson, whoever it was that stiffed Sailshaw out of some rent a decade or so before the hijacking, or any other name that you have seen on this thread.
Robert99
georger 267
QuoteRobert99 says in part:
Quote'and it will not be Weber, Christiansen...'
Gee, that's great to know. But since I've never said that I could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Christiansen was the hijacker...how do you manage to assert for sure that he WASN'T? You're doing the same thing that others have done when they said they KNEW the identity of the hijacker, only you are doing it in reverse. It's still the same thing. You can't say he wasn't, any more than I can say he WAS.
Part IIB-8BR-947.23 Rev. Blevins 148:13
Gee Blevins. Are you using the Fallacy of the Straw Man? Its in every elementary logic textbook.
Its the favorite of every preacher. Proof you cannot prove or disprove God! Therefore he exists!
Except fer one thing there cowboy. Leonard Euler proved it wrong in 1746.
So much for that piece of Blevins gobblewobble.
Mathew 25:23
georger 267
Georger, in part:
Hmm. Guess I should tell you upfront I don't believe in organized religion. I lean more toward the Sioux view of things than anything else, i.e. the Great Spirit, lifeforce permeating everything, etc. Sometimes I think the Sioux were the ones who actually wrote Star Wars, not George Lucas. 'Use the Force, Luke...'
I thought the History Channel folks covered the Christiansen story very well. It wasn't myopic, and they didn't distort the known facts on him. I especially liked the part where Geestman tells them he thinks Kenny could be the hijacker, when at the same time three witnesses place him WITH Kenny the week of the hijacking. He didn't even know at the time that these people had given that testimony. LOL.
Now...none of that means Kenny was the guy. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing the Seattle FBI running that bit of tape for him from Decoded on a TV, then presenting him with the testimonies from his ex, Helen Jones, Jones' daughter. I'd like to see him Pinnochio his way out of that one. Dismiss it if you like with another snarky comment, but it's a legit question that the FBI should ask of him. In fact, it's an OBVIOUS question that needs to be answered.
Yes...Gayla and I live together, not that it's any of your business. But the difference is I'm not collecting a couple of thousand a month from the state claiming to be her caretaker, as old Bernie Geestman is doing. She might be a recovering cancer patient as Geestman said (probably yes) but she looked plenty healthy when she answered the door, and I wonder now if he bothered to tell the State of Washington they were in a relationship. I have to hand it to the old guy, though. He must be a real stud. She was about twenty years younger than him.
Sorry...didn't click the image. You will have to settle for text in the snarky comments. I can avoid the pics, but I'm kinda stuck with the text.
Again you dont know the difference between logic
and emotion.
You didnt have the faintest idea what you were
getting yourself into and now like some gambler
you keep putting down chips in the faint hope the
odds are wrong andwont play out.
Persecution of others is not your OUT!
Dont pout.
QuoteWith that woman?
Dont you live in sin?
Ill bet you click this image! Better read the note,
and give it back when ur done, Rev. Blevins. When
will the money and the chutes be ready ?
PS: The lens you and DECODED offered to the world
is a distorted image! Myopic, selective, and filtered
for affect. People do NOT live in a vacuum you have
portrayed. Revise your doctrine and your message,
Rev. Billy-Bob Blevins...'
Hmm. Guess I should tell you upfront I don't believe in organized religion. I lean more toward the Sioux view of things than anything else, i.e. the Great Spirit, lifeforce permeating everything, etc. Sometimes I think the Sioux were the ones who actually wrote Star Wars, not George Lucas. 'Use the Force, Luke...'
I thought the History Channel folks covered the Christiansen story very well. It wasn't myopic, and they didn't distort the known facts on him. I especially liked the part where Geestman tells them he thinks Kenny could be the hijacker, when at the same time three witnesses place him WITH Kenny the week of the hijacking. He didn't even know at the time that these people had given that testimony. LOL.
Now...none of that means Kenny was the guy. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing the Seattle FBI running that bit of tape for him from Decoded on a TV, then presenting him with the testimonies from his ex, Helen Jones, Jones' daughter. I'd like to see him Pinnochio his way out of that one. Dismiss it if you like with another snarky comment, but it's a legit question that the FBI should ask of him. In fact, it's an OBVIOUS question that needs to be answered.
Yes...Gayla and I live together, not that it's any of your business. But the difference is I'm not collecting a couple of thousand a month from the state claiming to be her caretaker, as old Bernie Geestman is doing. She might be a recovering cancer patient as Geestman said (probably yes) but she looked plenty healthy when she answered the door, and I wonder now if he bothered to tell the State of Washington they were in a relationship. I have to hand it to the old guy, though. He must be a real stud. She was about twenty years younger than him.
Sorry...didn't click the image. You will have to settle for text in the snarky comments. I can avoid the pics, but I'm kinda stuck with the text.
Again you dont know the difference between logic
and emotion.
You didnt have the faintest idea what you were
getting yourself into and now like some gambler
you keep putting down chips in the faint hope the
odds are wrong andwont play out.
Persecution of others is not your OUT!
Dont pout.
georger 267
QuoteQuoteQuoteRobert99 says in part:
Quote'and it will not be Weber, Christiansen...'
Gee, that's great to know. But since I've never said that I could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Christiansen was the hijacker...how do you manage to assert for sure that he WASN'T? You're doing the same thing that others have done when they said they KNEW the identity of the hijacker, only you are doing it in reverse. It's still the same thing. You can't say he wasn't, any more than I can say he WAS.
Part IIB-8BR-947.23 Rev. Blevins 148:13
Gee Blevins. Are you using the Fallacy of the Straw Man? Its in every elementary logic textbook.
Its the favorite of every preacher. Proof you cannot prove or disprove God! Therefore he exists!
Except fer one thing there cowboy. Leonard Euler proved it wrong in 1746.
So much for that piece of Blevins gobblewobble.
Mathew 25:23
Comparing our two comments there, what was that again? Are you certain your pen name isn't Lewis Carroll?
Anytime you want to address an actual point in the discussion, be sure to let me know.
Yes Blevins - here IS the point.
Your often repeated tactic claiming nobody can prove or disprove KC isnt Cooper blah blah blah ...
IS THE FALLACY OF THE STRAW MAN-
LOOK IT UP.
Where did you learn that tactic? From you Dad?
Gayla? Some church? Bible lessons?
You dont even know what Im talking about do you?
No surprise.
You are an unschooled person, Blevins. A real flim
flam man.
Discussion over - you arent worth the effort.
georger 267
QuoteGeorger:
Quote'You are an unschooled person, Blevins. A real flim
flam man.
Discussion over - you arent worth the effort...'
Please. Don't make promises you can't keep. You'll just get my hopes up and stuff.
I am NOT a 'flim-flam man' and I look nothing like George C. Scott.
You should actually feel bad about saying that. I'm the guy who donates his time to more charities and fund-raisers than you can count. I'm the guy who pulls the money from his own pocket to publish a teen writer. I'm the guy who tries to help his community and give everyone an equal shot. Basically, my life is about everyone else and how I can help them in my own small way. Flim-flam, indeed. I think you should retract that statement.
The problem is that you have pre-conceived notions about someone you've never met. And let's face it...you have an agenda.
That agenda consists of posting up insulting remarks no matter what I say on this thread. And this is why I think your credibility is beginning to suffer. You claim to be open-minded, but that's been IMHO disproven. You have a beef with me that goes beyond Cooper, because you have written those things even when I made reletively harmless non-Cooper posts.
That is a personal problem and no concern of mine.
Won't work Blevins.
You can't shift responsibility.
You wrote Blast, not me. Your posts are nobody elses.
And now not even the Straw Man Fallacy will work
any longer.
Nobody owes you anything, on your record of poor
research and deceitfulness using the Straw Man Fallacy like it was The Word of God!
If cows could talk and sing!
QuoteI actually came into the thread to post more of the logs, but MatthewClines' post TICKED me off.
So I did MORE and decided to let the CAT out of the BAG.
I believe we have 2 individuals posting that are here for only one purpose. I am not going to make any accusations, but their positions seem to change consistenly and when one in particular reads or thinks I may have posted something that would jeopardize whatever their "assignment" is then one in particular tries to make me sound like I haven't got a clue.
Perhaps he does NOT realize we have a couple of very very swift jumpers from the past who monitor this thread.
When anyone gets close - this one person makes sure the information is distorted and made to sound "futile". He built his reputation here on his supposed knowledge, but the old timers have seen thur his guise.
When this young whipper snapper starts talking Nickles he better go back to school. He needs to do the math again.
When he starts talking the developement of the Chutes use before the Nickles became the Nickles - he needs to go back and retake the class.
Next thing we know he will be declaring he knew Derry the man who DEVELOPED the chutes and the method and who TAUGHT these guys BEFORE the Nickels was even formed. They did NOT become the Nickles until after Derry met with them and they went thru his rigid training. The smoke Jumpers was NOT until 1945. As Lloyd and Floyd - they are both still alive. Go to the Smokejumper museum.
Floyd has OLD TIMERS, but Lloyed was still sharp the last time I spoke to him a few months ago.
So MatthewCline - have a little fun chewing on your own tongue for awhile. Perhaps you just MISHEARD - or where too young to understand.
Jo your facts are false, or maybe you misunderstood.
So now Duane is a CIA Operative stealing planes for the CIA?
Who is changing the direction of the thread now?
AN yof these so called reputable old timers you mention can always show me a fact that shows me to be wrong in what history shows to have been recorded as fact. Of course they will have to get the logs and records from old McCarthy Hall for much of it. But the two links I gave you arr the two official web sites, seems your beef is with them, not me.
I pissed you off? laughable. I disputed a line in an article you quoted. You said you do not know any thing about "sky jumping", your own words, I clarified it for you, it doesn't support your claims maybe, I do not know.
And the 555 history and your telling aren't the same. I will take the history they have posted on their web page, and that is archived by the US Army Airborne School, the folks who trained the 555th PIR how to jump initially.
"Old Timers", nice play on words. Sadly more may suffer from it than we think.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
QuoteWe have one person who has been here for a while who very seldom posts, but this person is a GOVERNMENT employee - does very secret work, he can not even discuss.
Is this Thread being MONITORED!Not well enough.
Perhaps Cline is a DECOY!BK Cute
Hey Amazon - WHAT DO YOU THINK about all of this.
Tick JO off and she spills the beans - do these guys think I am a "REAL" DUMB BLONDE!
Sorry GUYS but I got fed up tonight! I'm running out of time and don't need to have my chain pulled with information that defies what is publically known and what I have researched for 16 yrs. If we believe what MatthewCline is now saying - we would need to rewrite history!I was linking history and quoting it.
MatthewCline you will not use up what energy I have left with trivial crap like this again. Amazon tried to let you know how far off base you were - but you didn't know WHO you were dealing with did you?Rest then.
Perhaps that was your goal - to find out if the old lady really knows anything! Or was your mission to gain confidence of the posters and then lead them into the forest with false directions so they would get lost again....to lead Cooperites wandering the forests and then the desert for another 40 yrs - NOT going to happen!I was just wanting to know who "Cooper" was. I bet he is enjoying a cold one laughing at this thread.
Cooper acted as a lone Wolf, but he was involved in some "other Stuff" - that does NOT mean he was CIA, but the CIA and the Government used paid informants. They hired so called Soldier's of Fortune to do some dirty work. Cooper was a rogue - he was made promises NOT kept and so he just Took what he considered fair payment. Buckle up! We're going for a ride!
Note: I did NOT say Weber was Cooper!
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This has to be the post of the year! I know it is early but even BK can't top this! (Where is old "Fable Spinner 6" these days? I hope he is OK)
Jo, your a bit off tonight, maybe take a few days away from this as relax. If your health is bad app;ly the energy you need for fighting there! WE all understand and hope it works out that you feel better!
Amazon let me know I was off base? I think I need to reread he PM then, 'cause that was not what I understood.
Decoy? Hardly.
I know who I am dealing with, you might not though.
And I worked "with" not "for".
Rest, feel better and I am sure this will look different later. I hope your health improves.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
With that woman?
Dont you live in sin?
How do you feel about Hutterites and dating fellow
FBI agents? Got any gossip about the Tina Bar photos?
I know a guy who used to patrol that stretch ... he
could tell some stories that would turn a Martian white!
Want to meet my bulls and run for your life! Two
blocks wont mean a thing to you - good exercise -
You will be in the next county within the hour - I
guarantee it!
Isnt he pretty! ???
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