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These are sites Snowmman brought to the attention of the thread and pictures I had seen before in 1984 in the book Duane brought home - stating that there WAS one of him but someone tore it out. The book disappeared and I never saw it again.

A friend had also pull these pics for me prior to my ever getting a computer in 2000. I assume he got them off the same sites I found later and that Snowmman put out for the thread. Agent Carr showed NO interest even when I presented pics of Duane that looked like one of the young men. None of the pic are of high quality.

I have explained before about trying to check these guys out.
2 I got no where because the names were so common..such as Max Miller.

One guy had 2 different names attached to his image in 2 different photos. The family of the one young man claimed their Uncle or their relative was NEVER in Camino, Ca. This is ALL old stuff. The other spelling got NO where. Melvin in one pic and Marvin in the other - the last names are similar but spelled differently. I was looking for the old navy pic of Duane standing but since I lost lots of things when the computer went down (they are here - just in a format I can open in the pics).

Also HOW many of you can stand the way the guy does in the Snow pic with his hand on his hip If you are left handed you just might be able to do it. Right handed individuals will find it very difficult. The names attached to the pics on the site - the family claims was NEVER in Camino, Ca. - One of the names is incorrect - so I found nothing under that.

My searches were done yrs ago and I have done new ones.
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"Radios were all double as back-up providing the ability to triangulate from a fixed point to any location by signal directions. I was given an example and we were within 50 feet of our target in heavy fog from 500 miles."



No way. I know quite a bit about 70s radio direction finding technology, both civilian and military, nulling loops, Doppler, Watson Watt types etc, BK's DF accuracy claim is BS. Even phase interferometry techniques couldn't give you that accuracy at 500 miles. Not even close.

When BK strays into tech he stumbles: witness his claimed use of a chest reserve as a back mounted chute for the DBC jump. In radio direction finding he makes similar mistakes.

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I may not be able to build a radio, but I was able to sit in the plane and watch NW pilot David Haapala fly his Mooney Executive dead nuts to Devil's Lake airport from Minneapolis by radio signals. Dave now owns an aircraft communications company. 50 feet is pretty accurate. Don't try to tell me I'm wrong. Everything I say is absolutely true. Especially the stuff I haven't said. Dave and Rataczak were good friends. Dave's father, Bernie, was an FAA official and on Nixon's Air Piracy Committee. I was with Dave and Bernie, et al, for three years (during the Cooper years.) McCoy vistied us in his Raul Rahaul eye patch disguise in Dassel, MN. Several Cooper discussions took place among us. Bernie is now passed. Just another small paragraph in history. Half a page in more actual quotes as part of my 50 pages. But you won't verify squat, because your objective is not the truth, it is to hide the truth. Chicken-shits! Citizens are not capable of knowing the truth?? But people like you are???? That is totally backwards. Who works for whom?

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From the article:

"For the first time, the federal government, in conjunction with three religious organizations, established a system allowing conscientious objectors to perform alternative nonmilitary service: working in hospitals, maintaining state forests, fighting forest fires, serving as subjects in scientific research, or building roads, dams and park benches. The program grew to include nearly 12,000 men at 152 camps in 34 states and in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and Chungking, China."

I would say for those who rely on Wikipedia as the source of fact, be careful, anyone can add, edit, and delete stuff, even fantasy can be placed in the stories. They do their best to keep that crap out, but it happens.

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"Radios were all double as back-up providing the ability to triangulate from a fixed point to any location by signal directions. I was given an example and we were within 50 feet of our target in heavy fog from 500 miles."



No way. I know quite a bit about 70s radio direction finding technology, both civilian and military, nulling loops, Doppler, Watson Watt types etc, BK's DF accuracy claim is BS. Even phase interferometry techniques couldn't give you that accuracy at 500 miles. Not even close.

When BK strays into tech he stumbles: witness his claimed use of a chest reserve as a back mounted chute for the DBC jump. In radio direction finding he makes similar mistakes.

377



I may not be able to build a radio, but I was able to sit in the plane and watch NW pilot David Haapala fly his Mooney Executive dead nuts to Devil's Lake airport from Minneapolis by radio signals. Dave now owns an aircraft communications company. 50 feet is pretty accurate. Don't try to tell me I'm wrong. Everything I say is absolutely true. Especially the stuff I haven't said. Dave and Rataczak were good friends. Dave's father, Bernie, was an FAA official and on Nixon's Air Piracy Committee. I was with Dave and Bernie, et al, for three years (during the Cooper years.) McCoy vistied us in his Raul Rahaul eye patch disguise in Dassel, MN. Several Cooper discussions took place among us. Bernie is now passed. Just another small paragraph in history. Half a page in more actual quotes as part of my 50 pages. But you won't verify squat, because your objective is not the truth, it is to hide the truth. Chicken-shits! Citizens are not capable of knowing the truth?? But people like you are???? That is totally backwards. Who works for whom?



Did you just implicate more innocent people in a felony?

Your Nixon fantasy has been debunked through and through, move on to a new story already.

Still with the name calling, grow up already. Your lack of intelligence, and common decency, is appalling.

You Radio Navigation comment is a mistake on your part. Your initial comment had all believe that from 500 miles you hit a target to with in 50 feet. Now you flew 500 miles, all the while making adjustments, (including outside help) to land at an airfield, accurate to 50 feet (that part is funny, he would miss the runway of he was that close to the VOR.

You should leave innocent people out of your story.

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I'm still waiting for Jimmy Hoffa to come into Bobby's nightmare of a story! Since Bob has claimed "whistleblower" status, I think it's time for him to actually blow into the whistle and not just toot his horn like he has been doing here with such a small audience, and such a big story ;)

Let's see if we can get the press involved in this "whistleblowers" TRUTHFUL story he claims he wants to tell and prove so bad B|

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Anyone heard from Dangerous Dan lately? I went back and looked and it looks like he hasn't posted since December. Don't know if any of you stay in touch with him or not. Just wondering when he was going to share his theory with us. I'm anxious to hear it, I like his posts.
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Anyone heard from Dangerous Dan lately? I went back and looked and it looks like he hasn't posted since December. Don't know if any of you stay in touch with him or not. Just wondering when he was going to share his theory with us. I'm anxious to hear it, I like his posts.



I checked him out yrs ago - seems like it was called to my attention by a local person in the Georgia area. So I made calls.

When Dangerous Dan came here he didn't even remember any of this and his story was the very same he recited yrs ago when they pictured him with a stack of money on a table in a bank.

He came to the thread making lots of promises - just as he did in the article and he even changed a little of the story. Something you guys do NOT know...an insurance company I worked for and Duane worked for had a OFFICE in his location.

I was only with that company for a short period of time and so was Duane. I was not there long enough to add it to my resume - the man who was the DSM was more interested in making me than teaching me how to sell insurance. I do not remember the name of the man or the name of the company at this time...I do not have tax returns going back that far for myself.

Duane kept his from 1968 till the yr. he died in 1995...well I kept the last one as I filed for both of us at the end of 1995. Why was Duane Weber so diligent in keeping copies of his tax reports with the W-2's attached?

I went to some of the 555 and Nickles site to see if I could recall any names he might have mentioned in our life together, but nothing stood out except 2 things and neither was NOT a name (I have always been terrible at remembering names).

The insignia - the patches - I had some of those - I sold them at the same garage sale I sold the piece of chute. I really can't remember what the patches looked like - the were just old patches to me. The patches were all different but they all related to jumping. A ride back into the past - what a ride this has been!

A lot of the guys here posted pictures of old patches, but the only thing that stood out to me was red flames on one - but I don't remember anything else about them. If only I had known then what I know today - I had a treasure trove of the past and I thought it was junk.
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Jimmy Hoffa has more brains left in the bottom of Florida's swamps than you ever had. If it weren't for Google, you'd be circling the swamps in search of advice. Hint: Google is not a source of intel, it is an indiscriminate search engine. You are the dude that spent a week looking at a planted tie clasp that was never even on the plane!!! Can't even figure out the Government's program for pre-registration interviews by local draft boards!! Number two sloth, the yellow striped badger in disguise. At first I thought you had some potential at deducing truth with your information there was a tie clasp distributor who lived near McCoy. Then you dropped the ball. Just another hired hand? "Like to hear your hat roar", like my dad used to say. Never understood what that meant, but it fits with the jibberish we get from the book promoter, you, and the drum beater dude. The one who thinks he is an FBI gopher now. What a collection of minstrels. What kind of creature pulls this bandwagon? A swayback mule? Mr. Ed? Goofy? Wily Coyote? The janitor at Seattle?

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Jimmy Hoffa has more brains left in the bottom of Florida's swamps than you ever had. If it weren't for Google, you'd be circling the swamps in search of advice. Hint: Google is not a source of intel, it is an indiscriminate search engine. You are the dude that spent a week looking at a planted tie clasp that was never even on the plane!!! Can't even figure out the Government's program for pre-registration interviews by local draft boards!! Number two sloth, the yellow striped badger in disguise. At first I thought you had some potential at deducing truth with your information there was a tie clasp distributor who lived near McCoy. Then you dropped the ball. Just another hired hand? "Like to hear your hat roar", like my dad used to say. Never understood what that meant, but it fits with the jibberish we get from the book promoter, you, and the drum beater dude. The one who thinks he is an FBI gopher now. What a collection of minstrels. What kind of creature pulls this bandwagon? A swayback mule? Mr. Ed? Goofy? Wily Coyote? The janitor at Seattle?



I can tell by your constant personal attacks that I hit a nerve, again, your little Haapala friend was a pilot for NW, but does not have a communications company, you once again switch information around to fit your needs.

TOG was not Bill Rataczak like you told Matt, keep slipping up, you have become rather easy to catch!!

your Dad sounds like just as much of a loser as your are!! probably why he killed himself.

your the dude that has spent years telling misinformation about a Hijacking that you want so hard to be a part of, so you lie and use friends to help your story,.

TOG TOG TOG
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"Google is not a source of intel" ???????


Mr. David Haapala serves as Publisher and Editor of FltTechOnline. Mr. Happala founded Air Economics Group in 1994 after retiring from Northwest Airlines. He has thirty-three years of experience as a Line Pilot, Instructor Pilot and Check Pilot on nine different aircraft. At Northwest, none were the 727-100

Now a president of Air Economics Group, Inc.

I guess it must of been the other David Haapala that worked at NW that has a aircraft communications company? and didn't go to your College, the same time you did?

"I owned a Mooney Executive 21" says Dave Haapala on Google, so we can't trust Google anymore? which Dave Haapala are you referring too? ;):P:ph34r:

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"Google is not a source of intel" ???????


Mr. David Haapala serves as Publisher and Editor of FltTechOnline. Mr. Happala founded Air Economics Group in 1994 after retiring from Northwest Airlines. He has thirty-three years of experience as a Line Pilot, Instructor Pilot and Check Pilot on nine different aircraft. At Northwest, none were the 727-100

Now a president of Air Economics Group, Inc.

I guess it must of been the other David Haapala that worked at NW that has a aircraft communications company? and didn't go to your College, the same time you did?

"I owned a Mooney Executive 21" says Dave Haapala on Google, so we can't trust Google anymore? which Dave Haapala are you referring too? ;):P:ph34r:



He doesn't seem amused by the implication.

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Interesting article from 1996, on the 25th anniversary of the hijacking. Many of the principles make statements I have not seen previously.

The first part of the article is the usual stuff. The better stuff is further DOWN. I found this quote to be the most interesting:

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'Himmelsbach, who is not most people, says, "Richard McCoy is not D.B. Cooper. He learned about Cooper's caper from reading newspapers. We established that McCoy was in Los Angeles on the night Cooper hijacked the Northwest plane. He wasn't Cooper. But, of course, you can't disprove it because we don't know who Cooper was.''



I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question.

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soh? more distractions/puffery?

what happened to your much advertised "Interview
with Rataczk"?

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From the masters of sleuthing come the sloths of planted information to disrupt more truth. Give us another rundown on the tie clasp that never was, or the 305 notes that never existed, or the flight path that nobody saw, or the missing cigarette butts, drink glasses, magazines, DNA, fingerprints, chicken eyed stares from stewardesses, secrets kept by agents, shot undercover agents, fake VietNam medals, dead John Doe bodies, stand-in doubles, missing files, missing records, changed and deleted data, secrets, secrets, secrets. All to cover up a domestic smoke and mirrors operation to justify a Presidential Order to enact laws Congress would not pass because of unpopularity. And you guys still have to perfume the air after 40 years! Give it up. Get over it. Ruby Ridge and Texas, etc., it is just an ongoing display of too much power in the hands of a few that need the ceiling brought down on them once in a while. Oversight really stinks. And they buy your crap. Sad. REALLY sad.

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From the masters of sleuthing come the sloths of planted information to disrupt more truth. Give us another rundown on the tie clasp that never was, or the 305 notes that never existed, or the flight path that nobody saw, or the missing cigarette butts, drink glasses, magazines, DNA, fingerprints, chicken eyed stares from stewardesses, secrets kept by agents, shot undercover agents, fake VietNam medals, dead John Doe bodies, stand-in doubles, missing files, missing records, changed and deleted data, secrets, secrets, secrets. All to cover up a domestic smoke and mirrors operation to justify a Presidential Order to enact laws Congress would not pass because of unpopularity. And you guys still have to perfume the air after 40 years! Give it up. Get over it. Ruby Ridge and Texas, etc., it is just an ongoing display of too much power in the hands of a few that need the ceiling brought down on them once in a while. Oversight really stinks. And they buy your crap. Sad. REALLY sad.



You may need a hair cut.

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from the master of deception, the guy who claims a woman saw a man on the stairs of a airplane at 10,000 feet in bad weather with flares over PORTLAND, the master who claimed that TOG was Bill Ratacaak and still tries to weasel out of it, they guy who takes College buddies and implicates them into a Government cover up involving Bob and a DEAD guy! he is so masterful he thinks he can tell a story about a reserve chute being tied to the back of the hijacker on a Parachute site and get away with it, yes that's right folks Bob Knoss, the king of deception, born to disrupt and confuse, but his doom is in the near future B|

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I agree with your question on how they established McCoy was in LA?

I also agree that he was sloppy and not as smart as "Cooper" was.

Matt



But, you gotta give him credit, he clearly made the jump and after reading about his jump noticed he landed 5 miles from his house, Miss Marla claimed LD landed 6 miles from his house, gotta little Knoss in her with "borrowing" a story! B|
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I agree with your question on how they established McCoy was in LA?

I also agree that he was sloppy and not as smart as "Cooper" was.

Matt



the question has been asked many times before ...

If you mean he had a big mouth, then yes, he had
a big mouth.

Not as smart as Cooper? Whats your metric?

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Interesting article from 1996, on the 25th anniversary of the hijacking. Many of the principles make statements I have not seen previously.

The first part of the article is the usual stuff. The better stuff is further DOWN. I found this quote to be the most interesting:

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'Himmelsbach, who is not most people, says, "Richard McCoy is not D.B. Cooper. He learned about Cooper's caper from reading newspapers. We established that McCoy was in Los Angeles on the night Cooper hijacked the Northwest plane. He wasn't Cooper. But, of course, you can't disprove it because we don't know who Cooper was.''



I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question.

Right-click and select 'Open in New Window' (or tab) for best results.



soh? more distractions/puffery?

what happened to your much advertised "Interview
with Rataczk"?



I wouldn't post that interview at Dropzone if my life depended on it. You want that interview? Go look for it. You've come down hard on everything I've posted...and NOW you ask for something from ME? Forget it.

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wulll ... last you left or the 49th time you said you
would back and post a link, but since he havent left
(any of the 49 times you said you were leaving)
then I thought you would post the link, just to prove
you had left but hadnt left and were still here.

at least you are consistently inconsistent.

search for it? sorry not narciscistic enough. it has no
relevance.

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Interesting article from 1996, on the 25th anniversary of the hijacking. Many of the principles make statements I have not seen previously.

The first part of the article is the usual stuff. The better stuff is further DOWN. I found this quote to be the most interesting:

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'Himmelsbach, who is not most people, says, "Richard McCoy is not D.B. Cooper. He learned about Cooper's caper from reading newspapers. We established that McCoy was in Los Angeles on the night Cooper hijacked the Northwest plane. He wasn't Cooper. But, of course, you can't disprove it because we don't know who Cooper was.''



I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question.

Right-click and select 'Open in New Window' (or tab) for best results.



soh? more distractions/puffery?

what happened to your much advertised "Interview
with Rataczk"?



I wouldn't post that interview at Dropzone if my life depended on it. You want that interview? Go look for it. You've come down hard on everything I've posted...and NOW you ask for something from ME? Forget it.

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wulll ... last you left or the 49th time you said you
would back and post a link, but since he havent left
(any of the 49 times you said you were leaving)
then I thought you would post the link, just to prove
you had left but hadnt left and were still here.

at least you are consistently inconsistent.

search for it? sorry not narciscistic enough. it has no
relevance.



While on the subject of people who have a Big Interview coming up and ask people on the thread to suggest questions for them to ask, there is another fellow whose initials I won't mention, but his name is Bruce Smith, who had a Big Interview lined up with the widow of Captain Bohan (of the 80 MPH headwind fame). What happened to that interview?

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You Bob Knoss, You are the one who makes unsupported statements and tries to "FLAME" the other posters.

You tell the other posters you do not like them and you are bored by their badgering. You are the one who Badgers and You are the one who NEVER supports one Thing you claim.

If YOU are as BORED as you claim then by all means PLEASE go away and let the rest of us make reasonable exchanges. Suddenly you pop up with more MUMBO JUMBO and attack other posters.

YOU and YOU alone will be responsible for this thread coming to a sudden halt - because the DropZone will not tolerate this for long - so they will just close the thread.

IF you care anything about this crime being solved - by all means PLEASE just go away or YOU and YOU alone will destroy the only medium those of us who really care have as a means to make serious enquiries about this old crime.

You and YOU ALONE in the past managed to get every site about Cooper Closed in the last 10 yrs - That is NOT a GOOD POINT in your favor!
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First you were going to step out of the picture - how many time have you left the thread? I lost count. Someone said 49 times!

You stated there was NO Bonneville Camp and YOU call yourself an investigative reporter and a resident of WA. Did you pull a little too many tabs before you made that post?

The old article from the 25th is just that OLD news and has been discussed before. How they established McCoy was someplace else was discussed by the FBI in detail. From a personal discussion with Mr. Himmelsbach yrs ago (if I remember correctly) it had something to do with some receipts - I do not remember the details and this was in a phone conversation. It was impossible for McCoy to be Cooper, but others have presented their arguments over the yr.

You said you would not post the interview with the co-pilot and yet you have not verified you even had an interview. Does the co-pilot know how much erroneous information others have recited regarding their claimed interviews?

Stop taking Georger's post so personally. Georger is just being Georger - like myself he get cranky once in awhile. He is NOT insulting you - he just wants YOU to explain yourself....so do I. We also would like for you to STOP using this site to promote your book.

When you state 80% of the emails received - thinking you MIGHT be on to something - you have to also note those emails are in response to your site and the book. Have you made this 80% privey to the other Coopers on the scope? OF Course NOT! Have you directed them to this site? OF COURSE NOT!

I am beginning to think you have a THING for Marla! We all know her publisher "dumped" her - that is old news!

You are wrong about the case not being solved because others did NOT present Witnesses, solid investigative procedures and evidence. You constructed evidence - it didn't just happen....

The FBI didn't even examine Duane's fiancials nor did they care - just as they do NOT care about KC's. What each had was not related to things acquired through a skyjacking, but just the economics of the time. Something YOU turned a deaf ear to. So there goes your evidence if you could even call that evidence.

Witnesses! Not one of your "witnesses" can put KC on that plane and each one of these so called "witnesses" felt they had NOTHING to loose and everything to gain until they realized they had been publically made fools out of. I sure hope Grey substitutes you in my place for the COMEDY as he can NOT use my characterer in any WAY.

Now your mulitiple horse back riding female makes a much more colorful character and so does the old man. Your female character fits the prototype Gray's screen writer would love to present. As it stand they do not have a woman character - and Grey cannot use my character.
Won't go into any details on that.

I dare you direct your readers to this thread! If your posting here is NOT all about your book then direct your readers to this thread!

YOU won't because YOU know it would mean the end of your book....

Now, I guess you will storm off again like a little boy whose mommy wouldn't let him have a candy bar.
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Blevins stated:
PROVE he went through thousands of dollars he didn't have immediately after the crime.


JO STATES:
I did prove it with purchases and loans and TAX reports and a large IOU from his boss. The FBI didn't even blink!



BLEVINS states:
You forgot to mention that Duane's picture was probably shown to Williams, the stews, and maybe some of the passengers. None of them jumped up and said, 'OMG...that's HIM!' Too bad, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion now.

Too bad I was not able to show them real photos of Weber. The individuals were shown ONE old photo of Weber that was distorted and did NOT look like him at all. NOT shown the other photos I found later.

You have absolutely NO knowledge of what has been going on in the FBI office. NOT one IOTA. You have absolute NO IDEA what I am doing - not one IOTA. Hell, I don't even know what I am doing - but one thing for sure it is paying off. Hey you need to make some money - I got some records in Tacoma you need to check out...you will get the surprise of your life!

Nothing I can or will talk about in a thread....I have never stopped investigating - but, I live clear across the states from WA and do not have the money to make the trips out there - so I have to depend on the good grace of those who do try to help...and that has NOT been the FBI.
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You Bob Knoss, You are the one who makes unsupported statements and tries to "FLAME" the other posters.

You tell the other posters you do not like them and you are bored by their badgering. You are the one who Badgers and You are the one who NEVER supports one Thing you claim.

If YOU are as BORED as you claim then by all means PLEASE go away and let the rest of us make reasonable exchanges. Suddenly you pop up with more MUMBO JUMBO and attack other posters.

YOU and YOU alone will be responsible for this thread coming to a sudden halt - because the DropZone will not tolerate this for long - so they will just close the thread.

IF you care anything about this crime being solved - by all means PLEASE just go away or YOU and YOU alone will destroy the only medium those of us who really care have as a means to make serious enquiries about this old crime.

You and YOU ALONE in the past managed to get every site about Cooper Closed in the last 10 yrs - That is NOT a GOOD POINT in your favor!




I already solved the crime. There was no crime, just a green flag on a union demonstration that served a different purpose. I verified it with TOG, talked to everybody of any consequence, and that's the bottom line. You book writers have no story. You have to fabricate. All the facts from McCoy over the years make for the only interesting potential book.

McCoy was at home eating Thanksgiving dinner when he got the call. Right from McCoy's lips. He finished his meal, got up and flew to follow flight 305. That is FACT. That is what happened. Documented. Mac was a hell of a lot smarter than Weber. Just not a trained criminal. Big difference. All these wild goose claims keep bombarding the truth but the truth remains the same. If you keep repeating the garbage long enough and loud enough, maybe Jo will buy into it. Kinda like Waco and the CIA tactics. Termites on a wooden ship. Salt on Minnesota bridges. Cooper sloths. Big Brother. Conspiracy in motion. It is all right here for everyone to see. Failed Agents picking the bones of a John Doe for effect. Humorous or pathetic? Both.

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Interesting article from 1996, on the 25th anniversary of the hijacking. Many of the principles make statements I have not seen previously.

The first part of the article is the usual stuff. The better stuff is further DOWN. I found this quote to be the most interesting:

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'Himmelsbach, who is not most people, says, "Richard McCoy is not D.B. Cooper. He learned about Cooper's caper from reading newspapers. We established that McCoy was in Los Angeles on the night Cooper hijacked the Northwest plane. He wasn't Cooper. But, of course, you can't disprove it because we don't know who Cooper was.''



I wondered HOW they established that McCoy was in LA at the time of the hijacking. It's a natural question.

Right-click and select 'Open in New Window' (or tab) for best results.


soh? more distractions/puffery?

what happened to your much advertised "Interview
with Rataczk"?


I wouldn't post that interview at Dropzone if my life depended on it. You want that interview? Go look for it. You've come down hard on everything I've posted...and NOW you ask for something from ME? Forget it.

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wulll ... last you left or the 49th time you said you
would back and post a link, but since he havent left
(any of the 49 times you said you were leaving)
then I thought you would post the link, just to prove
you had left but hadnt left and were still here.

at least you are consistently inconsistent.

search for it? sorry not narciscistic enough. it has no
relevance.



Then why ask in the first place? Not that it's any of your business, but I'm not publishing it until November. You can probably figure out why.

Here's the deal with you: You toss out insults just because I posted a link to a 1996 San Francisco Chronicle article. Has nothing to do with any book, nothing to do with Kenny Christiansen.

And yet...you couldn't resist the urge to toss out another cheap insult. This proves to me that you no longer have any credibility, or any objectivity regarding the Cooper case. So...your opinion means absolutely ZIP to me. I mean less-than-zero, I'd-rather-read-Bob-Knoss type of ZIP.

Let me clue you into the REAL world: Better than 80% of the emails and letters we receive now say we *might* be onto something with Christiansen. Well, that's probably because some people saw things you chose to ignore.

What things? Evidence, and the total body of it doesn't prove KC was the guy, but it does make him worth a look. You were too busy making comments after the Symposium about how nice Marla looked to even notice...:S

I WAS wondering if you support the possibility that she could be right. Before you answer, you should know that her would-be publisher dumped her, and none of her family members would back her story.

You were right about one thing, though. She has a nice-looking derriere. Too bad the story didn't look as good. You know, there's a reason why this case was never solved, probably many reasons. But one of them is when so-called 'experts,' people who are so involved in the tiny details of the case, forget it isn't ALWAYS about the details. Sometimes it's just about solid investigative work, witnesses, and evidence.


Huh? !!!

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