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This page seems all inclusive about Barry Seal. There's some false stuff, like JFK assassination allegations, some Bush allegations, but a bunch of details are true.
There's a picture of Barry after he was shot in his car in 1986.


If it is true, I'm amazed that Barry Seal was in the Operation 40 photo (Cuba) that we've seen before.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm

"This photograph was taken in a nightclub in Mexico City on 22nd January, 1963. It is believed that the men in the photograph are all members of Operation 40. Closest to the camera on the left is Felix Rodriguez. Next to him is Porter Goss and Barry Seal.
Tosh Plumlee is attempting to hide his face with his coat. Others in the picture are Alberto 'Loco' Blanco (3rd right) and Jorgo Robreno (4th right)."

(edit) The Barry Seal connection to Operation 40 is mentioned here in wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_40

(edit) another all inclusive page on Barry Seal
http://www.nndb.com/people/140/000129750/

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(edit) 377: what's the weird joystick/antenna gizmo Denny Thomas is holding in his hands???



Been trying to figure that out Snow. Looks a lot like a commercial RC transmitter for controlling planes based on shape size and two joystick configuration.
Wish I had a higher res photo.

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from http://www.air-america.org/ImageLibrary/Frank_Bonansinga_Photos.shtml

Photo attached:
Udorn Photo Recce pilots, from about 1971. The picture left to right is Gene Thomasson, Berl King, Denny Thomas, Pat Thorsen and Frank Bonansinga. Seated is Bob Main. This picture was taken at my (FCB's) the Charoen Hotel in downtown Udon Thani (Udorn) Thailand. We had a small type get together.

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***How come jumper women are talking to Jo? ***

Yeah, Jo give us some more detail on this encounter. How did the jumper know who you were?

She sounds more like a skydiver than mil jumper. Hundreds of skydivers jumped from a 727 that was in the jumpship fleet at the World Free Fall Convention in Quincy Illinois in the 1990s. Most mil jet jumps were out the side door of a Lockheed C 141 transport.

Also, what are you implying in telling us that Duane had a tie that belonged to RFK? Was it a clip on? JC Penney? When Marilyn Monroe is waiting you don't want to waste precious minutes undoing a traditional tie. You do a tie cutaway.

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https://lib.treasures.utdallas.edu/handle/2152.1/25

(edit) A wild one. attached.
Boeing Chinook helicopter carrying a Pilatus Porter.
somewhere in SE Asia.

(edit) Civil Air Transport (CAT) bowling team (attached)

(edit) Crashed C-123K
Date: November 18, 1965
Geographic Location: Laos; Sayaboury; Southeast Asia
Description: Under rear side view of Fairchild C-123K Provider, investigators and bystanders gathered around the aircraft.

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Barry Seal also operated a Learstar aircraft, a go fast mod of a Lockheed Lodestar. The Learstar could get in and out of very short fields and go very long distances unrefuled at high speeds. MUCH faster than a C 123, but also way less payload.

There is so much BS about Seal on the Internet it is hard to separate fact from fiction, but it is beyond dispute that he was involved in some messy spook stuff and also ran drugs.

Even the USAF ran drugs, although it wasn't official. Heroin was sometimes concealed in body bags returning from Nam according to a C 141 pilot I spoke with. The stench from the body cargo loads was so bad that even the slightest leak in the gas tight body bag zippers forced the crew to go on oxygen. Nobody was wanting to do inspections of the bags until they got to the morgues where presumably those in the know removed the heroin. I have no proof, just the pilot's story.

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***How come jumper women are talking to Jo? ***

Yeah, Jo give us some more detail on this encounter. How did the jumper know who you were?

She sounds more like a skydiver than mil jumper. Hundreds of skydivers jumped from a 727 that was in the jumpship fleet at the World Free Fall Convention in Quincy Illinois in the 1990s. Most mil jet jumps were out the side door of a Lockheed C 141 transport.

Also, what are you implying in telling us that Duane had a tie that belonged to RFK? Was it a clip on? JC Penney? When Marilyn Monroe is waiting you don't want to waste precious minutes undoing a traditional tie. You do a tie cutaway.

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As I said it was a chance encounter with this woman and I did not ask question about her jumping or experience - she simply stated that she had done it - and it was easy.

As for the tie - I guess I just made a slip-up. I will leave that for you to wonder about for a while anyway. The FBI knows the story I was told about the tie and that was discussed at family get-to-gethers. One of those things I thought best left unsaid and leave it at that right now because I won't and can't say any more than what I just said.

I really thought we had discussed this because I mentioned to the forum that right after I told the FBI the 40,000 pictures available to be viewed on Bobby were suddenly closed to the public for many yrs to come. I was trying to make arrangement to go to WA to view the photos - they are not available on line.

Through the yrs many avenues have been closed to me - this was not the first time I relayed information only to have a barricade put on front of me.
Since "others" had told me and ADVISED me not to go in this direction I stayed away from it, but it was always there HAUNTING me because of the little I did know about Duane's background.

When I go in this direction it just provides more FODDER to those who wish to discredit me - some on this forum and others thru out the time I have been searching for the truth - not a
story. If I had wanted a "story" believe me the writers would have had a field day....I just didn't want to go there.

Now as I enter the last chapter of my life - there is unfinished business to tend to - and why I have allowed the agressive search that has been going on. It will have to be up to each person who knew me to decide if I was indeed just that "Crazy Ole Lady" or a woman who provided unconditional love with few questions. There were some conditions as all of you know - when I found out he was involved in something in approx 1981 - I was packing to leave him and he promised me he would never do it again - to my knowledge he was never involved in any other illegal activity (maybe he just got better at covering it up).
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As for the tie - I guess I just made a slip-up. I will leave that for you to wonder about for a while anyway. The FBI knows the story I was told about the tie and that was discussed at family get-to-gethers. One of those things I thought best left unsaid and leave it at that right now because I won't and can't say any more than what I just said.



Jo,

You deserve a Nobel prize in teasing. The above text dodging questions about the Bobby Kennedy tie is a real masterpiece. Bravo. Well done.

Now about the jumper who just happened to come up to you and talk about the [H]ooper jump, how would she know who you were, your interest in Cooper and even what you looked like? Please explain further.

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Satchel, sack, ankle rubbers and a battery. That battery had a dual purpose...and so did the flares...



Jo,

About the battery and flares, is that a guess or do you actually know something?

From the description, the battery was a large 1.5 volt dry cell which, by itself, is pretty useless for powering radio communication devices.

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(shakes head)
377, I admire your tenacity in asking Jo more questions... you don't really expect to get straight answers, do you?

In the meantime, can someone tell me where I too can get a PhD in "Conspiracy Theories Adapted to Suit My Story While Shunning Any Actual Evidence"?
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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(shakes head)
377, I admire your tenacity in asking Jo more questions... you don't really expect to get straight answers, do you?



I know why you shake your head Orange. I guess I am just a hopeless optimist about Jo eventually changing her ways and becoming forthright.

The RFK tie thing really kills me, I mean SHE posts the info then gets all cute and secretive when asked to augment her claim with a few facts.

Duane was operating on the edge of so many historic events: CIA front companies, Bay of Pigs Cuba invasion, MLK assassination, RFK, DB Cooper, highly secret Asian prison camps and lord knows what else.

Next we will be hearing about the secret fourth astronaut on Apollo 13. America had a James Bond, we just didn't know it.


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(edit) 377: what's the weird joystick/antenna gizmo Denny Thomas is holding in his hands???



Been trying to figure that out Snow. Looks a lot like a commercial RC transmitter for controlling planes based on shape size and two joystick configuration.
Wish I had a higher res photo.

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Yeah, I'd say hobby RC.

Snowmman: That Barry Seal stuff is amazing. Imagine living that life.

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(edit) 377: what's the weird joystick/antenna gizmo Denny Thomas is holding in his hands???



Been trying to figure that out Snow. Looks a lot like a commercial RC transmitter for controlling planes based on shape size and two joystick configuration.
Wish I had a higher res photo.

377



Yeah, I'd say hobby RC.

Snowmman: That Barry Seal stuff is amazing. Imagine living that life.



Hmm. I guess it's a life. The only downside was that "six .45-caliber bullets from a Mac 10 machine gun in the side of the head" thing.

Actually that's not so bad, because if you're dead in a millisecond, who cares? But wouldn't it be nice to know that when you're gone, the web isn't going to be full of pictures of your blood-spattered head, a-la Al Capone, etc?

I guess Seal knew it was coming. He complained that the parole restrictions made his pattern predictable, and he was a "clay duck". I guess he was.

Weird, they found the 3 guys who did it, and they're in prison now?

Here's a blog with a lot of stuff, quoting the lawyer who represented Miguel Velez for the Barry Seal killing:
"20. Seal’s killers were under the distinct impression that the US military officer who directed their actions was Oliver North. “ ‘I represented Miguel Velez for the Barry Seal homicide, which was one of the most incredible experiences I have ever been through,’ Richard Sharpstein began. ‘It was an amazing experience. Nobody wanted to think about what any of this meant back in 1986. The implications were just too big. And I’m only speaking with you now because some of this has leaked out. All three of the Colombians who went on trial always told us—their lawyers—that they were being directed, after they got into this country, on what to do and where to go by an ‘anonymous gringo,’ a United States Military officer, who they quickly figured out was Oliver North,’ Sharpstein says.” (Ibid.; p. 438.)"

http://ftrsummary.blogspot.com/2005/04/ftr-503-death-of-barry-seal.html

also NYT of the murder trial
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/14/us/murder-verdicts-in-drug-ring-case.html

MURDER VERDICTS IN DRUG RING CASE
Special to the New York Times
Published: Thursday, May 14, 1987

The state court jury will now consider whether to sentence the defendants, Miguel Velez, Luis Carlos Quintero-Cruz and Bernardo Antonio Vasquez, to death in Louisiana's electric chair or to life in prison.

The drug witness, Adler (Barry) Seal, was killed by six .45-caliber bullets from a Mac 10 machine gun as he parked his car Feb. 19, 1986, in Baton Rouge, La.

The prosecutor, Prem Burns, contended that an assassination squad dispatched by the Columbia-based Medellin cartel murdered Mr. Seal to protect an imprisoned leader of the drug ring. 'Good Versus Evil'

Ms. Burns termed the slaying of Mr. Seal ''an assault on the entire system of justice.'' After the verdict, she said, ''I've looked at this whole case like good versus evil, and I feel there really is some justice.''

Defense attorneys complained after the verdict that their clients were convicted by irrelevant and prejudicial testimony about cocaine smuggling by the Medellin cartel.

''They tried the Medellin cartel,'' Mr. Velez's attorney, Richard Sharpstein, said.

Mr. Seal was a pilot who said he earned more than $50 million smuggling cocaine and other drugs from South America to the United States. He became a witness against his former smuggling associates following his arrest on Federal drug charges in 1983. Work of Informer Cited

The law-enforcement authorities credit Mr. Seal with providing testimony that led to the conviction of major cocaine smugglers and the first indictments against the reputed leaders of the Medellin cartel. That drug ring is believed to control more than 70 percent of the cocaine traffic in the United States.

Ms. Burns contended that ring members offered a $500,000 bounty on the life of Mr. Seal to keep him from testifying against a reputed leader of the ring, Jorge Ochoa, who was fighting a Spanish court order to extradite him to the United States for trial on drug charges.

Ms. Burns told the jury in her closing argument Tuesday that when Mr. Seal signed the affidavit in support of Mr. Ochoa's extradition, he ''signed his own death warrant.''

A prosecution witness, Max Mermelstein, a Miami drug smuggler, testifiied recently that leaders of the drug ring approached him in December 1985, offering him $1 million to kidnap Mr. Seal and bring him alive to Colombia or $500,000 to kill him. Pressure Off for a Year

Mr. Mermelstein never made an attempt on Mr. Seal's life, Ms. Burns told the jury, and the plot to kill the witness was dormant for almost a year until a Spanish court ordered Mr. Ochoa extradited in January 1986 to the United States.

''At that point, it became extremely important for the Medellin cartel,'' Ms. Burns said, ''to renew the contract on Barry Seal.''

After Mr. Seal's death, Mr. Ochoa was eventually released.

Ms. Burns argued that the three defendants and Jose Renteria-Campo, who will be tried later, traveled to Baton Rouge in mid-February 1986 to plot the assassination. Mr. Quintero-Cruz pulled the trigger, Mr. Velez drove the car used to escape, and Mr. Vasquez made other arrangements for the assassination team, Ms. Burns said.

Mr. Sharpstein said in his closing argument Tuesday that ''there may be many people out there who hated Barry Seal with a passion, who may be responsible for his murder.''

Mr. Sharpstein complained that Ms. Burns built her case ''on a slew of witnesses who are the barnacles off the pirogues of life.''

Witnesses like Mr. Mermelstein, who is now in the Federal witness protection program, should not be trusted and might be even be suspects in the murder of Mr. Seal, Mr. Sharpstein said.

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Satchel, sack, ankle rubbers and a battery. That battery had a dual purpose...and so did the flares...



Jo,

About the battery and flares, is that a guess or do you actually know something?

From the description, the battery was a large 1.5 volt dry cell which, by itself, is pretty useless for powering radio communication devices.

377



Think "light". But, you are right is only a theory - just from something that was said over the yrs. and something that was always in our emergency kit in the trunk of the car - and that large battery he hauled around - just "in case" we got stuck in a white out or snow storm on those lonely roads in Wyoming. The post that Snowmman made about this light - made a light go off in my head. It made sense to me, but if the car battery goes dead and we are stranded what do you connect that light to.
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The only downside was that bullet in the side of the head thing.



Yeah, that might put a damper on things. You really crack me up sometimes Snow.

Hey, Barry is dead. Let's buy that C 123 and see what's left of his market. All we need to do is find some SF guys willing to work for an inflation adjusted $3000 a month.

There are skydivers with special ops military experience, but they'd just be looking for excuses to jump if we had em in a tailgate aircraft or else performing inflight QC on the drug cargo.

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From the description, the battery was a large 1.5 volt dry cell which, by itself, is pretty useless for powering radio communication devices.

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Think "light". But, you are right is only a theory - just from something that was said over the yrs. and something that was always in our emergency kit in the trunk of the car - and that large battery he hauled around - just "in case" we got stuck in a white out or snow storm on those lonely roads in Wyoming. The post that Snowmman made about this light - made a light go off in my head. It made sense to me, but if the car battery goes dead and we are stranded what do you connect that light to.



I said something about a light? Like "when they overrun us, I'm going to have this last strobe light tied to my chest, and be calling in tac air right on top of me?"

No that was Robert Howard, incredible Medal of Honor SOG guy, getting everyone stoked, when everything said death was right there. I just finished a chapter in SOG on him, and it's mind-boggling to read, and I spent quite a bit of time trying to imagine the guy, his motivations, the times. It's otherworldly.
No way to summarize.

Plaster's book is unparalleled, but here's an overview of Howard
(plus other SOG MOH recipients)
http://rlhtribute.com/

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I guess I am just a hopeless optimist about Jo eventually changing her ways and becoming forthright.

The RFK tie thing really kills me, I mean SHE posts the info then gets all cute and secretive when asked to augment her claim with a few facts.

Duane was operating on the edge of so many historic events: CIA front companies, Bay of Pigs Cuba invasion, MLK assassination, RFK, DB Cooper, highly secret Asian prison camps and lord knows what else.



I did not intend to be cute or secretive. The things I have stated - have been stated for yrs and yrs, but each time I approached this part of the story I was met with opposition and naysayers. So I stopped trying to tell everything I knew - it seemed useless to try.

The tie story was told by Duane to family members prior to the skyjacking. Upon his release from Jefferson - he worked in the area for awhile - but I HAVE told this story before right here in this forum and I told it to Larry Carr. Duane had a tie and clip he claimed he stole from Bobby Kennedy within a few wks of his release from Jefferson.,,hence why I thought the tie was left as a message.

I could not believe that Kennedy would have been that careless with his security and it is my opinion the room the tie was stolen from was occupied by one of his security personnel. I seriously doubt the story was made up - and I find it very distasteful for a man to "brag" about such a theft to family members -especially an ex-con.

Larry Carr never acknowledge my phone call and subsequent emails regarding this little family jewel I was told about. More than one person was aware of the story --- therefore I believed what was told to me.

As I have said before - so much I have kept to myself (or shared only with the FBI) because NO ONE would ever believe it. Yes, he worked for- JMWave front companies for the CIA (this is fact) and he was in Miami during the Bay of Pigs - seen by a reputable family member at the Fontane Blue.

We did make a trip to Memphis and I believe it was in reference to MLK...because of the sequence of events.

I have nothing that connects Duane to JFK other than stories from a woman who was always very intoxicated.

As for Asian prison camps - I am only exploring his strange involvement with 3 other men and trying to peg down where they all knew each other from. The watercolors buried in my mind resemble the aerial of a encampment ( I have said it seemed the barrier was more suitable for keep someone out rather than in) and finding that strange magazine in a safe deposit box and nothing else.

One of these 3 men was the one who had called Duane "John" and when I contacted him audiably upset - told me that Duane knew people in high places and if I wanted to be around to play with my grandkid - to destroy all I had and to walk away and never look back. I told the FBI about this man and his name and how to contact him.

At that time one of the others was also still alive, but they never contacted him and if so his wife was not aware of it.

Now, tell me again that I am being Cute and Secretive. I have NO intentions of coming across in that way, but I have been asked and TOLD to keep my mouth shut. The things I have told above were told before in this forum and in emails and to friends and relatives and the media and to the FBI yrs ago. Truth is stranger than fiction - and I will tell you that there is NO WAY this naive woman could make all of this up. I never kept up with crime or politics - but, I have learned a lot these last few yrs when I realized the FBI was going to do NOTHING to resolve this.

By the Way - Duane seemed very knowledgable of politics and conflicts - and to me it was not interesting - hence I was naive regarding many of the things he spoke of....I should have been listening and more curious about his knowledge of these things.
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(reminds me of Wilson and C-4 to Libya)

LA Times 4/3/1987
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-04-03/news/mn-2414_1?pg=1

Arms Drop for Contras in 1986 by CIA Alleged

By DOYLE McMANUS, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — A Central Intelligence Agency helicopter illegally delivered at least one cargo of plastic explosives to rebels inside Nicaragua last year, according to an American crewman aboard the flight and two other sources.

Their account is the first confirmed report of a direct violation by CIA employees of the Boland Amendment, which prohibited the agency from providing weaponry to the contras from late 1984 through late 1986.

The crewman, who was working for the contras' private airlift at the time, said that an unmarked Bell UH-1H helicopter carried between 200 and 400 pounds of plastic explosives to a landing zone inside Nicaragua from the rebels' air base at Aguacate, Honduras, on May 13, 1986.

"We unloaded in the Bocay area (just inside Nicaragua)," the crewman, Iain Crawford of Fayetteville, N.C., said in an interview. "We dumped it on the ground as fast as we could and the contras picked it up and scurried away."

Two Confirm Account

His account was confirmed by a former U.S. official and by a ranking contra officer who said that CIA personnel made several such supply flights for the rebels.

"They made a lot of flights for us," the contra said. "Some carried explosives and others equipment. Maybe it was against the rules, but they were trying to help us out."

A spokesman for the Senate Intelligence Committee said that such flights were clearly prohibited at the time.

"If they delivered explosives, that would be illegal," spokesman David Holliday said. "The CIA was allowed to do some things for the contras (in May, 1986), but they surely didn't include delivering explosives."

Kathy Pherson, a spokesman for the CIA, said she could neither confirm nor deny the reported flights except to say: "The agency has complied with all congressional restrictions."

Congress barred the Reagan Administration from providing or transporting military aid to the rebels from Oct. 12, 1984, until last Oct. 17. Congress approved $27 million in non-military aid for the rebels during that period but specifically prohibited the CIA from delivering it.

In addition, in an attempt to avoid exposing American officials to combat, Congress barred U.S. government personnel from going into Nicaragua with the contras.

Pilot Hit by Fire

On a March, 1986, CIA helicopter flight across the border, however, Nicaraguan troops opened fire on the helicopter, damaging the aircraft and hitting the American pilot in the leg, the contra said.
"He was a very good pilot, because he got the helicopter down without killing anyone," he said.

Crawford, who spent five months working for the contras' private airlift operation, said he learned of that incident several weeks later when the CIA brought a big CH-36 Chinook helicopter down to the Nicaraguan border to lift the damaged chopper out.

Crawford, 31, now the owner of a parachute rigging firm, said he knew one of the CIA officers at Aguacate--a man who used the code name "Mick"--from a previous meeting when Crawford was in a U.S. Army special operations unit.

No Doubts About CIA

"There was no question about his being CIA," said Crawford, who spent 11 years in the Army. "The contras knew it, I knew it, everyone knew it. . . . Mick talked about the congressional restrictions, how their hands were tied a lot."

He said Mick organized parachute training for a small group of contras but complained that the CIA's rules prohibited him from helping the guerrillas with weapons training.

Mick and another CIA officer who used the code name "Moe" lived apart from the contras in a small shack outfitted with a satellite antenna dish, two racks of radio equipment and a "situation board" showing the disposition of contra troops and the forces of the Nicaraguan government, Crawford said.

'Pilots Were Americans'

As for the helicopter, he said: "The pilots were Americans. They wore survival vests and sat in armored chairs. This was new equipment. It wasn't the contras' and it wasn't (the private airlift operation's). It was clearly agency."

The helicopters, which included several UH-1H "Hueys" and Hughes 500-Ds, came through Aguacate "roughly every other day," Crawford said. He said they were painted dark green or black and carried no military or national insignia.

On May 13, Crawford said, he asked Mick if he could ride on one of the Huey flights, and Mick agreed. Crawford said there were four other men aboard: a pilot and co-pilot, both of whom appeared to be American, an unidentified Latino and Mick.

Explosives 'Clearly Marked'

"The cargo was about 80% food--bags of rice," he said. "And there was about 200 to 400 pounds of plastic explosive. . . . It was in wooden boxes. It was clearly marked."

In fact, Crawford said, the boxes appeared to be from a load of plastic explosives he had helped fly from El Salvador to Aguacate a month earlier.

"We flew just the other side of the river," he said, referring to the Rio Coco, which forms the border between Nicaragua and Honduras. "Where we landed I can't testify exactly, but it was just the other (Nicaraguan) side of the river."

Crawford said he has already given his account to investigators from the Senate and House committees investigating the Reagan Administration's secret arms sales to Iran and aid to the contras. Congressional sources confirmed that and said the two panels are seeking corroboration for the story.

Refers to Date Book

Crawford, who referred frequently during the interview to his 1986 date book, said he was hired for the private airlift on Jan. 6, 1986, by Richard Gadd, a former Air Force officer and business associate of retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Richard V. Secord, an active participant in the effort to supply the contras.

He displayed several documents confirming that account, including an identification card issued by the Salvadoran air force providing entry to El Salvador's main air base at Ilopango, where the airlift was based.

Crawford said he had worked as a load master and "kicker" on 40 to 50 airlift flights, most of them dropping cargo by parachute to contra units near Bocay and Rus Rus to the east.

Although the State Department sought to separate the delivery of its own non-military aid from the contras' weaponry, Crawford said: "There was no segregation whatsoever. It wasn't even dreamed of. . . . There was maybe one load of completely humanitarian aid out of 40 or 50."

Invited to Briefing

At one point, he said, Gadd asked Crawford to join him on an executive jet flight back to the United States so that he could brief three other men on the airlift operation's problems.

One of the three, he said, was Marine Lt. Col. Oliver L. North, then a White House aide. Another was Secord, who was helping North organize the airlift, as well as the Administration's secret arms shipments to Iran. Crawford said he still does not know who the third man was but noticed that, like North and Secord, he carried a purple U.S. diplomatic passport.

Crawford said he agreed to work for the secret airlift because he agrees with the contras' cause but also because "I love covert operations. . . . And the money wasn't bad."

Pay for Crossing Border

He said he was paid $150 per day plus expenses. "We were promised $500 (extra) every time we went across the border, but nobody I know ever got paid that," he said.

But he soon found that the operation was mismanaged, starved for funds and saddled with faulty equipment.

"The cheapness of the operation was amazing," he said. "The Caribou (cargo plane) we were using had holes in the dashboard. We weren't using navigational equipment to get to the drop zones, just maps. And there weren't any parachutes or safety straps; you just hung on.

"We also learned that we were supposed to be getting $300 a day, but were only getting $150."

Repeated Complaints

Crawford said he was fired from the project last May after complaining repeatedly about the airlift's equipment and management problems.

He said he decided to "go public" after Nicaraguan troops shot down one of the planes last Oct. 5, killing three crewmen and capturing Eugene Hasenfus of Marinette, Wis. The plane had reportedly suffered from chronic engine trouble and was off course when it was hit.

"I decided," Crawford said, "that people should know how this thing was mismanaged."

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Prior to Waugh's retirement from SF in 1971-72, he worked for the CIA's elite Special Activities Division starting in 1961. Apparently as "Paramilitary Operations Officer" ??

I don't have more detail on this. Maybe just as SF A-Team? (Operational Detachment Alpha or ODA team). He arrived in South Vietnam in 1961..that was pretty early so it was all CIA led at that point??

(per wikipedia entry)

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Vietnam Studies
U.S. Army Special Forces
1961-1971

CMH Publication 90-23
Department of the Army
Washington, D.C. 1989 (First Printed, 1973)

you have to click thru the links to read it. This was written in 1973! Has lists of SF camps (A, B and C).

What's interesting here, is that MACV-SOG is not mentioned at all. It was still black op stuff in 1973.

Just the other SF stuff is mentioned. The 5th Special Forces Group wound down out of Vietnam early in 1971. Includes Project Delta, Sigma and Omega.

http://www.history.army.mil/books/Vietnam/90-23/90-23C.htm

Colonel Francis John Kelly is eminently qualified to write the story of U.S. Army Special Forces. In 1960 he chaired the committee at the Command and General Staff College which produced the U.S. Army's first definitive approach to counterinsurgency, "The Role of the U.S. Army in the Cold War." He also wrote and conducted the Senior Officer Counterinsurgency Program course of study at the U.S. Army War College and served as a division chief in the Special Warfare Directorate, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Military Operations, Department of the Army. For two years he commanded the 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne) on Okinawa, which provided multiple operational teams for combat service in Vietnam. From June 1966 to June 1967 he commanded the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) in Vietnam. Upon his return, he became the Commander of the Combat Development Command Institute for Strategic and Stability Operations at Fort Bragg. In all these positions, he strongly influenced the development of tactics and techniques, equipment, organization, and doctrine. After service in Vietnam, Colonel Kelly undertook the task of complete reorganization of the basic unit, the Special Forces Group, at the same time revising the doctrine. In September 1970 he was assigned as Senior Army Advisor to the State of Colorado in Denver.

VERNE L. BOWERS
The Adjutant General Major General, USA
15 September, 1972 Washington, D.C.

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Greetings Y’all,

I received an email from Maj. John L. Plaster, the author of SOG, and he says he was familiar with the widespread rumor that Ted B. Braden was DB Cooper.

Plaster said he had heard that Braden went AWOL in 1966 or 67 and then appeared in Africa as a mercenary. He was apprehended there and turned over to the US government as a war deserter, but the court-martial was kyboshed because he knew so much about SOG ops.

After that he disappeared, and no one has heard from him again.

Plaster emphasized that this is all hear-say from rumors.

One last bit: he too says Braden had an uncanny resemblance to the FBI sketch of Danny.

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