DB Cooper

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I do agree with you.

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I do agree with you.

Let me poke around here and maybe we would
want those samples after all. I just cant get my mind
off the matter. I keep coming back to it no matter
how I juggle things in my mind. I will make some calls and get back to you but if we could do this I think it
would be very worthwhile. I know a gal in USGS that
might be interested. We also have a guy here at
USGS who did his work in Washington. I will talk to
these people and get back to you at the latest mid next week. But I really would love to do this. It
would definately stir the pot - and be worthwhile.

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Orange ! Led Zep now your telling your age.

nah, not really...that's the thing about classic music, it finds fans in new generations :)

i think, if you care to scroll back through the thousands of posts in this thread, one of them actually does mention my age that old!

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Jo you missed your calling as a fiction writer.Give up this fantasie of Duane being Cooper and become a fiction writer you would be realy great at it.

Not a writer, not fiction and not a fanasty, Truth sometimes is far more stranger than any fiction someone could envision.

Give up on the DNA unless you have access to this politician or his relatives and his security crew from 1968. Wonder if they tested the multiple particial DNA's (that is what CARR said to me) for family links. Guess they would need the mothers DNA for that.

DNA testing cost thousands of dollars and it is my understanding the FBI has a very tight budget for such a very old case.

Not here to banter just to see what is going on. Do you still swear the places (I described in 2001) do not exist and that I never found them? Do you still insist I did not have witnesses with me?

These places do exist. You are the ground man - for Himmelsbach and for others. They depend on you to be right and if you let your own agenda regarding Cooper get in the way then this is never going to be solved.

The major problem was your understanding what I was saying was that I thought I was on the Columbia in 1979 with Duane.Yes, we did go to the Columbia on our return trip from Seattle to Tahoe. It was the part of the trip from Hwy 14 to interstate 5 - you were not capable of thinking like a woman who had never been to WA in her life and a mysterious side trip her husband made on that trip in 1979,

I told you about his disappearing that morning from The Dalles for several hours and when we finally left there around noon that we CROSSED the Columbia and turned off of Hwy 14 just where the road split off - in 1979 they had widened the road right at Washougal. Back then I didn't know we turned at Washougal - I thought it was further down 14. The only map we had with us was Northwest map of several states and an Atlas. (Remember that Duane did not need a map).

Even when I went to WA in 2001 - they provided a guide who didn't have a clue what I was talking about - he took me the directions I thought we went and we ended up in Washougal, but were he was taking me was familiar but not the route or the lake. I knew I was in the general vicinity - I had kept saying river and wide - so all they did was try to take me to rivers.

This is why I was so discouraged. The morning after the crew left - I was waiting for my ride (I had arranged to stay an extra night and these people where going to help me find the places). You problaby are unaware of my Angel Udell - a female truck driver.

Everyone here knows that story so I will not repeat it. At her instructions and wth the help of a lady who lived on the Columbia in 1971 - I went right to the locations I had spent 4 yrs trying to describe to you. Please be kind enough to think about this with an open mind. It doesn't mean you made a mistake or that your theory about Cooper is wrong. All it does mean is that you couldn't undertand nor could others what I was TRYING to describe to them.

Now with all the developement in those area - I doubt a trace will ever show up, but I can always hope for another miracle. I think I have had all the miracles I am entitled to in this life.

Thank you for listening (reading this) and hope you understand. You could have been a lot of help, but you chose to take an opinion and hold to that opinion without an open mind. I also should not expected anyone to get inside of my head and see my memories - I did not have the knowledge of WA to find the location of the memories. I got lucky with the River Lady and my Angel Udell. Just luck.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[JerryThomas 0]

Jo you already know my answer your discription and knowledge of places came after duane died along with your fabricated stories. Once again you are an excelent fiction writer.

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Jo you missed your calling as a fiction writer.Give up this fantasie of Duane being Cooper and become a fiction writer you would be realy great at it.

Not a writer, not fiction and not a fanasty, Truth sometimes is far more stranger than any fiction someone could envision.

Give up on the DNA unless you have access to this politician or his relatives and his security crew from 1968. Wonder if they tested the multiple particial DNA's (that is what CARR said to me) for family links. Guess they would need the mothers DNA for that.

DNA testing cost thousands of dollars and it is my understanding the FBI has a very tight budget for such a very old case.

Not here to banter just to see what is going on. Do you still swear the places (I described in 2001) do not exist and that I never found them? Do you still insist I did not have witnesses with me?

These places do exist. You are the ground man - for Himmelsbach and for others. They depend on you to be right and if you let your own agenda regarding Cooper get in the way then this is never going to be solved.

The major problem was your understanding what I was saying was that I thought I was on the Columbia in 1979 with Duane.Yes, we did go to the Columbia on our return trip from Seattle to Tahoe. It was the part of the trip from Hwy 14 to interstate 5 - you were not capable of thinking like a woman who had never been to WA in her life and a mysterious side trip her husband made on that trip in 1979,

I told you about his disappearing that morning from The Dalles for several hours and when we finally left there around noon that we CROSSED the Columbia and turned off of Hwy 14 just where the road split off - in 1979 they had widened the road right at Washougal. Back then I didn't know we turned at Washougal - I thought it was further down 14. The only map we had with us was Northwest map of several states and an Atlas. (Remember that Duane did not need a map).

Even when I went to WA in 2001 - they provided a guide who didn't have a clue what I was talking about - he took me the directions I thought we went and we ended up in Washougal, but were he was taking me was familiar but not the route or the lake. I knew I was in the general vicinity - I had kept saying river and wide - so all they did was try to take me to rivers.

This is why I was so discouraged. The morning after the crew left - I was waiting for my ride (I had arranged to stay an extra night and these people where going to help me find the places). You problaby are unaware of my Angel Udell - a female truck driver.

Everyone here knows that story so I will not repeat it. At her instructions and wth the help of a lady who lived on the Columbia in 1971 - I went right to the locations I had spent 4 yrs trying to describe to you. Please be kind enough to think about this with an open mind. It doesn't mean you made a mistake or that your theory about Cooper is wrong. All it does mean is that you couldn't undertand nor could others what I was TRYING to describe to them.

On the other hand, there is something called the
Stranger's Syndrome which works in cases like this.

People in new places are unfamiliar with things
which often seem complicated, disconnected, and
large with many small niches.

Children go through this growing up in their own backyards. When visited later as adults these areas always seem smaller and most people wonder how
a small area could ever have seemed so large and complex, and forboding. Sometimes people's
illusions are shattered ... where of course the adults
in the picture knew all along what the reality was.

How could you be expected to know and understand the area of southern Washington first time out, much
less describe it to a native! The reality did not fit
your dreams. You were the stranger in a strange
land, not Jerry!

I have people show up on my road every now and
then who seem to know more about me and
my property than I do! They always are wrong and
it can get a little irksome. (City Yuppies with a map
and a program)!

I doubt it ever occurred to you Washington could
swallow you up, just as it did Cooper. And now, by
all accounts, it has.

But the monument to Crazy Horse isn't finished either!
Maybe Snowmman, 377, and Sluggo have taken that task up?

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Jo I realize that you need attention. However I've decided to ingnore your post and not respond to them anymore.Here is why, your stories have become so wild and when people realize that your a scam artist like Duane was they'll do the same.So when you marry Jeb Bush I'll respond to your post.But not untill

[skyjack71 0]

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Jo I realize that you need attention. However I've decided to ingnore your post and not respond to them anymore.Here is why, your stories have become so wild and when people realize that your a scam artist like Duane was they'll do the same.So when you marry Jeb Bush I'll respond to your post.But not untill

There is no such thing as being nice to you - and I did not ask for you to respond to me - also I said absolutely nothing negative regarding you. There is no fantasy or false memory involved here.

Please ignore my posts - Please.

Just because they mention you does not require your reply

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[georger 268]

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Jo I realize that you need attention. However I've decided to ingnore your post and not respond to them anymore.Here is why, your stories have become so wild and when people realize that your a scam artist like Duane was they'll do the same.So when you marry Jeb Bush I'll respond to your post.But not untill

There is no such thing as being nice to you - and I did not ask for you to respond to me - also I said absolutely nothing negative regarding you. There is no fantasy or false memory involved here.

Please ignore my posts - Please.

Just because they mention you does not require your reply

So if you mention the State of Washington, nobody
from the State of Washington is required to reply?

And if you mention DB Cooper nobody familiar with
the Cooper case is required to reply either -
including DB Cooper himself!?

You just want an audience and no replies?

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Jo I realize that you need attention. However I've decided to ingnore your post and not respond to them anymore.Here is why, your stories have become so wild and when people realize that your a scam artist like Duane was they'll do the same.So when you marry Jeb Bush I'll respond to your post.But not untill

There is no such thing as being nice to you - and I did not ask for you to respond to me - also I said absolutely nothing negative regarding you. There is no fantasy or false memory involved here.

Please ignore my posts - Please.

Just because they mention you does not require your reply

You sound like Scarlet O'hara.

Do you see me "My Baboon" as your servant?

Do you see Jerry as your servant?

Sluggo? Quade? 377? Orange1? Snowmman?

How many servants do you require on your plantation?

What's the crop?

[JerryThomas 0]

Define loss ,Define win ,Then Define Reality. Unfortunatly there are those that try to alter reality to there way of thinking with fiction stories.

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Jo I realize that you need attention. However I've decided to ingnore your post and not respond to them anymore.Here is why, your stories have become so wild and when people realize that your a scam artist like Duane was they'll do the same.So when you marry Jeb Bush I'll respond to your post.But not untill

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There is no such thing as being nice to you - and I did not ask for you to respond to me - also I said absolutely nothing negative regarding you. There is no fantasy or false memory involved here.

Please ignore my posts - Please.

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You sound like Scarlet O'hara.
Do you see me "My Baboon" as your servant?
Do you see Jerry as your servant?
Sluggo? Quade? 377? Orange1? Snowmman?
How many servants do you require on your plantation?
What's the crop?

I guess Lt. Georger and Sgt. Jerry can have the plantation. I escaped with the slaves and we are hiding in the woods. We didn't like being flogged everytime we opened our mouths. It was "Yes, sir and No sir" or be tied to the Whipping Post. If we opened our mouths we were called a Liar and and if we provided infomation we were taking up space.

Truth and justice does not exist in this world anymore. If the innocent raises their hand or their voice to defend themselves they are the ones who are punished. Being nice and abiding by the law doesn't work anymore. Coercion and verbal abuse rule - so Ms. Scarlet will stay in the woods and pray the prepetrators don't burn down the Mansion.


(Read below with a Deep Southern drawl)

My Dearest Baboon,

I do believe you also reside in the Mansion and if you allow the perpetrators to burn it then you will have no where to go...as I recall you were without a home for a while.

With All of My Due Respects,
Ms Scarllett.

PS. When you speak with Master Cooper let him know I truely tried to free him from his bondage.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[georger 268]

(Read below with a Deep Southern drawl)

My Dearest Baboon,

I do believe you also reside in the Mansion and if you allow the perpetrators to burn it then you will have no where to go...as I recall you were without a home for a while.

With All of My Due Respects,
Ms Scarllett.

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well if it helps, here's a Spring view of Seattle
taken this morning by a relative. Enjoy the Spring.

Georgie, Porgie, Puddin n Pie.

[JerryThomas 0]

Perfect View.

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Not a writer, not fiction and not a fanasty, Truth sometimes is far more stranger than any fiction someone could envision.

Just a side note Jo, truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

At least usually.

The rest of you guys . . . I gave you a hint the other day and you can consider this another one, calm the F down or people are going to start taking time off away from this forum.

This includes all the cute names you started calling each other. Stop it now before it gets any more out of hand.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[georger 268]

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Not a writer, not fiction and not a fanasty, Truth sometimes is far more stranger than any fiction someone could envision.

Just a side note Jo, truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

At least usually.

And sometimes, Truth is as plain as the nose on
your face.

If some people find that strange, then they need
a psych eval.

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Quade states:

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Just a side note Jo, truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

At least usually.

Georger states:

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And sometimes, Truth is as plain as the nose on
your face.

If some people find that strange, then they need
a psych eval.

With all of that said and done, Guys, I could have told you all he landed near the Old Grist Mill and buried the chute at a near-by cementary near where the place card landed. Cooper then followed a power line or pipeline down to Whipple Creek at I-5. He used a walkie talkie to communicate with his partner who was in the Sea Tac airport when the plane landed. He told this person to go to a certain place and if he couldn't make communication to go home.

They planted and hid some of money so everyone would think Cooper died. It just didn't get found for a few yrs. They also got the dye out of his hair retuning it to a steely gray.

Everything went as planned and Thanksgiving Eve. they were in CA. having dinner with family. After a few days and telling the family he was hurt in an accident, they were on their way to Vegas to WASH some of the money. Since he had this theory that the only way to get away with a crime was to go back at them... Cooper and his companion had a drink at Ariel before they went their separate ways.

Would you have believe that story?

You see if I was going to make-up a story or provide a fantasy for myself or others - wouldn't it have been easier to tell you something that simple? Why would I put him landing some place I would have to struggle so hard to convince the public to swallow? Why would I try to put him someplace that meant he had to struggle to survive?

If anyone really thinks about this - there is only ONE conclusion. Jo Weber told what she knew and what she was shown and told, but she didn't lie. It would have been much easier to tell the story above and not spend 13 yrs struggling to be heard against all the odds out there....but, I chose to tell it the way it was told and shown to me.

If all I had wanted to do was convince the FBI and the public Duane Weber was Cooper - that would have done just find. Yes, I am crazy for spending 13 yrs trying to make people believe the truth. It has been costly more ways than any of you will ever know. My biggest regret is that I buried another husband in 2007 who lived in the shadow of all of this...a wonderful loving man who deserved far more of my time and energy than he received in our seven yrs together.

You'll Never Know If You Don't Know Now.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[JerryThomas 0]

Quade if I have violated any rulels of this thread please document them so we can make it public knowledge an kick me off. I Deal with truth and fact Not fiction or fantisies, ! Jerry

[quade 4]

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Quade if I have violated any rulels of this thread please document them so we can make it public knowledge an kick me off. I Deal with truth and fact Not fiction or fantisies, ! Jerry

Scroll back a few and see where you called Jo a "scam artist."

Review this page and then abide by it.
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=142088

You are free to argue that her information is wrong, but the name calling will stop.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Quade states:

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Just a side note Jo, truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

At least usually.

Georger states:

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And sometimes, Truth is as plain as the nose on
your face.

If some people find that strange, then they need
a psych eval.

With all of that said and done, Guys, I could have told you all he landed near the Old Grist Mill and buried the chute at a near-by cementary near where the place card landed. Cooper then followed a power line or pipeline down to Whipple Creek at I-5. He used a walkie talkie to communicate with his partner who was in the Sea Tac airport when the plane landed. He told this person to go to a certain place and if he couldn't make communication to go home.

They planted and hid some of money so everyone would think Cooper died. It just didn't get found for a few yrs. They also got the dye out of his hair retuning it to a steely gray.

Everything went as planned and Thanksgiving Eve. they were in CA. having dinner with family. After a few days and telling the family he was hurt in an accident, they were on their way to Vegas to WASH some of the money. Since he had this theory that the only way to get away with a crime was to go back at them... Cooper and his companion had a drink at Ariel before they went their separate ways.

Would you have believe that story?

You see if I was going to make-up a story or provide a fantasy for myself or others - wouldn't it have been easier to tell you something that simple? Why would I put him landing some place I would have to struggle so hard to convince the public to swallow? Why would I try to put him someplace that meant he had to struggle to survive?

If anyone really thinks about this - there is only ONE conclusion. Jo Weber told what she knew and what she was shown and told, but she didn't lie. It would have been much easier to tell the story above and not spend 13 yrs struggling to be heard against all the odds out there....but, I chose to tell it the way it was told and shown to me.

If all I had wanted to do was convince the FBI and the public Duane Weber was Cooper - that would have done just find. Yes, I am crazy for spending 13 yrs trying to make people believe the truth. It has been costly more ways than any of you will ever know. My biggest regret is that I buried another husband in 2007 who lived in the shadow of all of this...a wonderful loving man who deserved far more of my time and energy than he received in our seven yrs together.

You'll Never Know If You Don't Know Now.

Jo,

True, you didn't take the easy route. Your Duane is Cooper (or Duane knew Cooper) theory is very convoluted and very hard to accept. I don't think there is a single person on this forum who accepts it.

Still, I admire your tenacity. You are like the Energizer Bunny.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[JerryThomas 0]

Quade at lot worse has been said. Now review The cuss words, and other accusations that have been made. This argument is not between you and I. But is For Truth .Does not Bashing The FBI and telling Lies count. Or just stating fact !Is the reason for punishment. Jerry

[quade 4]

Jerry,

You can't control anyone here but yourself. I suggest people worry less about other people's behavior and more about their own.

"Truth" can be subjective depending on a person's point of view, which they are entitled to not only have but express.

If you'd like to address other people's facts, go right ahead, but leave the personal attacks out of it.

Lastly, I wasn't and am not just talking to you, but the participants of the thread in general. Everyone needs to return to being a bit more civil to one another.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[JerryThomas 0]

Quade your comment is well respected. All I wish is that fantasies an fiction/made up stories would cease.Commennts made by those ,that only want to enhance there notority, with made up stories ,should be discouraged from posting on any forum.There are good people that actualy get hurt, Both financially, and profesionally, by comments made that are not truth. All though ,proven the statements are false, the damage has still been done.Yet there are those that still allow this to take place. This is not within anyones controll except for the monitor or the sponsor. So controll has never been a quest of mine on this forum. All do respect I think your doing a fine Job. I just wish you would post on a daily basis. Jerry

[georger 268]

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Quade states:

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Just a side note Jo, truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

At least usually.

Georger states:

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And sometimes, Truth is as plain as the nose on
your face.

If some people find that strange, then they need
a psych eval.

With all of that said and done, Guys, I could have told you all he landed near the Old Grist Mill and buried the chute at a near-by cementary near where the place card landed. Cooper then followed a power line or pipeline down to Whipple Creek at I-5. He used a walkie talkie to communicate with his partner who was in the Sea Tac airport when the plane landed. He told this person to go to a certain place and if he couldn't make communication to go home.

They planted and hid some of money so everyone would think Cooper died. It just didn't get found for a few yrs. They also got the dye out of his hair retuning it to a steely gray.

Everything went as planned and Thanksgiving Eve. they were in CA. having dinner with family. After a few days and telling the family he was hurt in an accident, they were on their way to Vegas to WASH some of the money. Since he had this theory that the only way to get away with a crime was to go back at them... Cooper and his companion had a drink at Ariel before they went their separate ways.

Would you have believe that story?

You see if I was going to make-up a story or provide a fantasy for myself or others - wouldn't it have been easier to tell you something that simple? Why would I put him landing some place I would have to struggle so hard to convince the public to swallow? Why would I try to put him someplace that meant he had to struggle to survive?

If anyone really thinks about this - there is only ONE conclusion. Jo Weber told what she knew and what she was shown and told, but she didn't lie. It would have been much easier to tell the story above and not spend 13 yrs struggling to be heard against all the odds out there....but, I chose to tell it the way it was told and shown to me.

If all I had wanted to do was convince the FBI and the public Duane Weber was Cooper - that would have done just find. Yes, I am crazy for spending 13 yrs trying to make people believe the truth. It has been costly more ways than any of you will ever know. My biggest regret is that I buried another husband in 2007 who lived in the shadow of all of this...a wonderful loving man who deserved far more of my time and energy than he received in our seven yrs together.

You'll Never Know If You Don't Know Now.

Jo,

True, you didn't take the easy route. Your Duane is Cooper (or Duane knew Cooper) theory is very convoluted and very hard to accept. I don't think there is a single person on this forum who accepts it.

Still, I admire your tenacity. You are like the Energizer Bunny.

377

You and Jo are both energizer bunnies and have no
mercy!

Most people know the difference and vomited years ago.

We are supposed to stick to facts, and THAT is the
single most dominant FACT on this board!

You are applauding carnage!

***PLEASE*** GIVE IT A REST!

And Im speaking for a lot of people.

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G,

What's wrong with a bit of kindness or tolerance? I don't agree with any of Jo's Duane is Cooper theories, but see no need to attack, deride or ostracize her.

The level of anger hatred disgust that Jo seems to arouse surprises me. This is just an obscure forum, not real life. All she does is post words. Hard to see why that is so enraging to some.

""Carnage"? "Vomiting"? Come on, this is just an Internet forum. You can ignore Jo. If I irritate you, you can also ignore me. Or, you could try tolerance. It is good for reducing hypertension.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.