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Snowmman I have no idea what story they are talking about by Sheehan. The article I am talking about was written by Byron H. Brown son of James Brown and published in the Vegan Magazine in Oct and Nov of 1983.
A total of 21 pages of print and pictures in two segments..
This is exactly what Iam talking about. You dont even know the history of this. You hear somebody
say "cat" and you call everybody you know saying:
"Cats are taking over the world".
You are an IDIOT!
Georger
I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying.
Jo is correct. Why is she an idiot?
Byron Brown was the son.
James Brown was his father, who supposedly got the story from Coffelt.
James Sheehan was the writer for the Las Vegan who wrote the story and toured around with Byron Brown at the time when Bryon Brown was telling it. (1983)
The story was written after James Coffelt died. At 59 in 1975.
press blitz was 11/23/83
Note the Coffelt story was that the back rig was faulty, and he "grabbed" for the chest rig. Implying he opened the chest rig? But that's not correct. (see attached)
are you mixing stories? I thought the gun was found during the '76 or '80 DUI, and that Jo was a passenger in the car for one of those. I guess I don't know if a gun was additionally found during the DMV event or what. We've never had a good summary of the Duane LE interactions while Jo was married to him.
I will remind Sluggo that whatever I shared with him he is private and will remain private. I thought he was being my friend. I did very much appreciate all of the maps he went to so much trouble to acquire for me.
I will set some records straight.
Duane use various alias: the the arrest below are under Duane L. Weber.
In 1975 or there about when Duane was MARRIED to someone else - he was stopped in Jacksonville, Florida (I think Carr posted the charges on the forum).
I believe it was a DUI and he had a gun in his possession. I questioned the FBI - how a convicted Felon could have possession of a gun and have not gone to jail.
The only incident I had knowledge of that involved a gun was in 1990 when he was attempting to obtain the John C. Collins drivers license and was followed by the Highway Patrol to the next county. He did somehow manage to obtain that drivers license in the next county.
Since he was using false Identification in an attempt to
obtain a drivers license in the name of John Collins - that is a felony in the State of Florida. He was arrested - and at that time he had a brand new 38 with split bullets in it...he intended to go after someone for some reason. He had just gone on diaylsis and I contacted the Dr. who was counseling him regarding the diaylsis and he intervened - making sure that Duane WAS not arrested, but was put under observation for 72 hour in a local facility - I did not not like the facility they where taking him to and managed with the Dr.s help to have him transferred to the best facility in the area with the same hospital who was doing the dialysis.
Duane L. Weber had a record that included serveral prisons and county jails - the Jefferson Mo prison was under John Collins.
As all of you can see so much of what I have told and said gets turned and misinterperted by those to whom I am telling the story or who are viewing my research and documents.
Other individuals (there have been many) use the information I have provided to fit their own use or purpose.
Attention Sluggo: Use some logic here - if Duane was involved in a "search" for Cooper - why didn't he just tell me and his friend that over the yrs. Have you interviewed his employers and friends and asked them? Of course not.
If Duane had participated in anyway with the search at any time after the crime, this is something he would have BRAGGED about - not kept secret.
Folks - everything (one PM) I said to Shelly is now on the forum and not one word was an attack. I was asking her be a little more considerate. If anyone is owed an apology - I am. Not one time was she threatened by me and the posts speak for themselves.
I got very upset tonight reading all of the positively negative posts. I know that I do not come across very well and yes I am bias because I cannot take away what I held in my hands and saw with my own eyes.
Duane died on March 28th 1995 and March 27 was our anniversary.
For the information of those who want me to make my life an open book:
I did not use my married name out of respect for my recently deceased spouse - that would have cause unnecessary stress in our relationships. We had a mutual agreement to do this - I did not want him to have to compete with Cooper - Before I married him my phone would ring in the wee hours of the morning because someone wanted to talk to me about Cooper.
He knew I was working on the research and he supported what I was doing as long as it did not interfer with our relationship. By the way I did NOT tell him what I was involved in until 9 months after I met him when I was asked to go to WA for a TV program.
I expect those who are privey to private information to keep it private. My life has been an open book in my search for the truth...at least respect that and know that I have tried to tell you guys and others what I knew and what I know.
I will say as I said on the Columbia that norning in Wa in 2001. Talking to God and to Duane if he could hear me "I have done all I can do - now it is up to you guys" That morning a miracle happened - and the Angel Udell directed me to the places I had been told did not exist by Jerry Thomas.
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There are no more Angels out there - and no more Miracles.
It's all up to me now ... and I don't know where to go - staying here is not a choice. My PM is my real email address so you can contact me there should anyone have something they wish to share with me. I don't know if I can post my email address here or not - Sluggo and 377 have it and if anyone wants it they can give it out.
There are some of you I would like to keep in contact with.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Byron Brown was the son.
James Brown was his father, who supposedly got the story from Coffelt.
James Sheehan was the writer for the Las Vegan who wrote the story and toured around with Byron Brown at the time when Bryon Brown was telling it. (1983)
The story was written after James Coffelt died. At 59 in 1975.
Snowman:
I cannot find this Sheehan mentioned in the article except in the introduction. It is written in first person by Byron H. Brown. The introduction only is by. JES. The story begins with the report, the crime and the revelation. In the November issue it say "I went" - "I discovered" - "I noticed" - "In 1974 as my father and I" - "I travelled"," and finally "When I finally found her in July of 1977, the pretty, half Filipino stewardess, who was then working for Frontier Airlines in Denver took one look at my photographs of Jack coffelt, her mouth dropped open, and she gasped, "Oh my god! Where did you get those? I never thought I would see that face again! It's him!""
All of this except the introduction with a copyright by Byron H. Brown.
Note Florence identified Christiansen also - I don't believe if multiple pictures (never used before) of all the suspects where put in front of her that she could ID Cooper. Too many yrs and too many suspects.
The memory gets clogged with all of this - it is not her fault.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Georger
I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying.
Jo is correct. Why is she an idiot?
Byron Brown was the son.
James Brown was his father, who supposedly got the story from Coffelt.
James Sheehan was the writer for the Las Vegan who wrote the story and toured around with Byron Brown at the time when Bryon Brown was telling it. (1983)
The story was written after James Coffelt died. At 59 in 1975.
press blitz was 11/23/83
Note the Coffelt story was that the back rig was faulty, and he "grabbed" for the chest rig. Implying he opened the chest rig? But that's not correct. (see attached)
I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying.
Jo is correct. Why is she an idiot?
Byron Brown was the son.
James Brown was his father, who supposedly got the story from Coffelt.
James Sheehan was the writer for the Las Vegan who wrote the story and toured around with Byron Brown at the time when Bryon Brown was telling it. (1983)
The story was written after James Coffelt died. At 59 in 1975.
press blitz was 11/23/83
Note the Coffelt story was that the back rig was faulty, and he "grabbed" for the chest rig. Implying he opened the chest rig? But that's not correct. (see attached)
Snowmman:
well I guess Sheehan was only the EDITOR of the articles apparently written by Byron Brown, as Sheehan himself describes paring Brown's words down to manageable size, in the article I posted.
Jo is never clear about anything, except to make her threats against people.
Has Jo ever considered her threats on the Internet
can be reported to the Authorities, as well as any threats she has issued via email ?
As Jo's caretaker maybe you need to advise her of
that before she gets herself and you into hot water.
My recommendation is that people just forget about
Jo Weber, which is exactly where (and part of why)
I came into this Forum in the first place.
Since I am wrapping things up in a nice little package tonight - Georger - explain that statement to everyone above.
WHY would you come here because of Jo Weber? WHY did you come here to this forum to tell people to forget about Jo Weber?Has your rage revealed something to everyone with the above statement? WHAT are You afraid of ? Why do I upset you - unless you know something about this case no one else does? WHY would you come here to make people forget about Jo Weber or the story she was trying to tell.
Remember I am taking statements you have made. Why when I mentioned Tina and the book did you get so riled? What have I jeopardized in your life unless you have a direct connection or knowledge of this crime or Weber, you want to keep hidden.
Why am I the agenda or your purpose in being here? To whom do I pose a threat?
If you have an interest in the "Smorgasbord" - and a good reason I shouldn't take what I have public now is the time to talk to me. I am not without conscience or compassion - I have sought only the truth.
I am sure you will come back with Hogwash or Garbage - are you sure you want to do that? Did you enjoy your outing?
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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My recommendation is that people just forget about
Jo Weber, which is exactly where (and part of why)
I came into this Forum in the first place.
Since I am wrapping things up in a nice little package tonight - Georger - explain that statement to everyone above.
WHY would you come here because of Jo Weber? WHY did you come here to this forum to tell people to forget about Jo Weber?Has your rage revealed something to everyone with the above statement? WHAT are You afraid of ? Why do I upset you - unless you know something about this case no one else does? WHY would you come here to make people forget about Jo Weber or the story she was trying to tell.
Remember I am taking statements you have made. Why when I mentioned Tina and the book did you get so riled? What have I jeopardized in your life unless you have a direct connection or knowledge of this crime or Weber, you want to keep hidden.
Why am I the agenda or your purpose in being here? To whom do I pose a threat?
If you have an interest in the "Smorgasbord" - and a good reason I shouldn't take what I have public now is the time to talk to me. I am not without conscience or compassion - I have sought only the truth.
I am sure you will come back with Hogwash or Garbage - are you sure you want to do that? Did you enjoy your outing?
Sure, I will be glad to explain.
When I joined this forum you had been dominating
everything in addition to quarreling with people and making wild accusations against the FBI and others.
Prior to Ckret arriving you were commanding the
center of attention, but then Ckret arrived and I
thought you would at least grant him the space to speak freely, but you didn't.
The FBI had already dismissed your Duane Weber
years before, so in my mind Duane Weber and you
were not even viable topics!
I thought we would be able to discuss DB Cooper here
unopposed, especially with Ckret here. I thought you
would back off or wind down (or something) to allow
free expression here, but you did not and you still have not, and I doubt you ever will .
I tried to ignore you completely. After a very short
time you began challenging "the new person" and questioning my credentials "to speak at all" ! You
showed your true colors right there. I hadnt said one word to you or about you. I had not even wanted to
engage you in any respect or manner at all, but you
challenged ME openly, and you challenged "the new
person" even being here.... as if you own this forum!
I should have told you to FUCK OFF! right there. I
did not do that out of respect for Ckret trying to keep
some civility here in this forum.
I simply was looking for a place to discuss DB Cooper,
and you made that impossible.
I simply was looking for a chance to discuss DB Cooper
with an FBI agent in charge of the case, but you would
not even allow Sp Agent Larry Carr the freedom to talk, without hurling accusations and allegations at him and the FBI, and on and on and on and on.
That's my explanation.
Now what's your explanation?
Jo Said:
AND
Ahhhh! Now my work is done.
Sluggo takes a "deep bow".
See 377, that’s how you do it.
snowmman,
Thanks, you played you hand straight as an arrow, just as I hoped you would. See what we can accomplish when we work together.
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Blog
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I will set some records straight.
AND
None of you will have to listen to my ramblings anymore
Ahhhh! Now my work is done.
Sluggo takes a "deep bow".
See 377, that’s how you do it.
snowmman,
Thanks, you played you hand straight as an arrow, just as I hoped you would. See what we can accomplish when we work together.
Web Page
Blog
NORJAK Forum
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Jo Said:
I will set some records straight.
ANDNone of you will have to listen to my ramblings anymore
Ahhhh! Now my work is done.
Sluggo takes a "deep bow".
See 377, that’s how you do it.
snowmman,
Thanks, you played you hand straight as an arrow, just as I hoped you would. See what we can accomplish when we work together.
whatever all of that means. The naive observer
might comment as Ckret did once before:
"WTF"! And I could add: "I think you're all
crazy".
Good luck.
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Ckret must know something that he is not sharing that allows him to summarily dismiss otherwise qualified suspects. Could it be that the FBI has a very good idea who Cooper is/was but lacks unequivocal evidence and is seeking it through the forum? That would explain why Ckret doesn't pursue person leads nearly as much as physical evidence leads. Am I off base in this speculation?
377
Enticing thought, but I tend to agree Ckret would surely have focussed the investigation more - or did he, in ways in which we were unaware?
btw As interesting as all the stuff about John Collins may be, it really doesn't have much bearing in this thread, which is about DB Cooper.
I saw a quote that we would not have to listen to ramblings anymore, unfortunately that has become the girl who cried wolf. But while a certain person is posting her PMs to people, perhaps she would care to post the ones that show how two-faced she is - the ones that are nice to someone she thinks may be able to help her, then denigrating that same person in a missive to someone else.
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
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Jo said you already knew it all, had the links etc.
Re-read her post which evidently was just another
lie.
Im not going to post further on this because anything I say will just be fodder for Weber and she
will twist and misconstrue it all, and God only knows
where that would lead.
It's not worth the trouble -
The Browns had no major outlet until they contacted Sheehan and Sheehan presented their story.
Jo doesnt even know who Sheehan is!
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