BCA 1 #1 April 1, 2006 I came across this in my collection. I believe it was the only edition of Freefall magazine to be printed back in 1967. The cost of $.50. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,467 #2 April 1, 2006 Hi BCA, Actually, I think there about 4-5 issues; some guy named Leigh something was the publisher. Does that sound right? And that guy on the cover is Tim Saltenstal, his uncle was a senator from Mass. Last I heard he was living in Pope Vallley, CA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCA 1 #3 April 1, 2006 Your correct, that is Tim Saltonstall on the cover. The magazine was a publication of North American Aerodynamics. The editor was Ron Edwards. If there were more than this one edition, I never saw them. BCA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #4 April 2, 2006 QuoteHi BCA, Actually, I think there about 4-5 issues; some guy named Leigh something was the publisher. Does that sound right? And that guy on the cover is Tim Saltenstal, his uncle was a senator from Mass. Last I heard he was living in Pope Vallley, CA. I have the same issue -- and it's the only one I know of. There's no reference inside to anyone named "Leigh." Saltonstall was, of course, co-owner with Curt Curtis of Pope Valley Parachute Ranch. Both lived in adjacent wonderful big houses in the woods above the airport. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #5 April 2, 2006 I have two copies of that issue from collections I've bought or were gifted to me. That was Vol. 1 #1. The mag said it was published quarterly. But I have also not come across other issues of it. All the ads were from the Chute Shop. Most of the gear on Tim was advertised in that issue too. PI tried a similar plan with TNT almost a decade later. That one folded rather quickly too. There were so many pics of jumpers without goggles back then I asked Gary Patmor (who lives near me) once, if jumpers used them at all. He said yes, but there were many times people did not use goggles. I find the 'no goggles' photos to be 'very unusual' from my mere 25 years of jumping perspective. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #6 April 2, 2006 QuoteI have two copies of that issue from collections I've bought or were gifted to me. That was Vol. 1 #1. The mag said it was published quarterly. But I have also not come across other issues of it. All the ads were from the Chute Shop. Most of the gear on Tim was advertised in that issue too. PI tried a similar plan with TNT almost a decade later. That one folded rather quickly too. There were so many pics of jumpers without goggles back then I asked Gary Patmor (who lives near me) once, if jumpers used them at all. He said yes, but there were many times people did not use goggles. I find the 'no goggles' photos to be 'very unusual' from my mere 25 years of jumping perspective. . I made about 50 or 60 jumps without goggles in 1974. I could see fine, but I finally went back to them because of the drying effect. Hey, those are 1-Shot Capewells, I like it! ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,467 #7 April 2, 2006 Hi BCA, I stand corrected on the magazine. However, there was another jump magazine in about '64-'65 that was published in the LA-area by some guy named 'Leigh' something, as I recall. Again, only about 4-5 issues then died. I do remember seeing a couple of them. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #8 April 2, 2006 Quote PI tried a similar plan with TNT almost a decade later. That one folded rather quickly too. TNT (Truth, News, Trends) was published by Parachutes Incorporated with a specific agenda -- to "punish" USPA for its decision to abolish the position of "Honorary Lifetime President." held by Jacques Andre Istel. Of course it also pitched PI and Pioneer products. It was edited by Skip Kniley, who's still active as an organizer. Then, of course, there was DZ USA, edited by Gene Hunnel. I have a partial collection of issues. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaymundo 0 #9 April 2, 2006 loved that TNT! More edgy than Parachutist.Wish I wooda saved them.I remember the big logo(full page color) of the "Wings of Orange" team.Seems like the rag lasted for a year or more.Oh well its "foggy" now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skymonkey13 0 #10 April 2, 2006 In the pic it looks like he is wearing 2 altimeters. Am i seeing things right, or what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #11 April 2, 2006 QuoteIn the pic it looks like he is wearing 2 altimeters. Am i seeing things right, or what? 1 Altimeter, 1 stopwatch. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 April 3, 2006 QuoteIn the pic it looks like he is wearing 2 altimeters. Am i seeing things right, or what? As he said: one altimeter, and one stopwatch. That was how altitude awareness redundency was done back then. You knew that exiting from 12,500' it took 60 seconds to get to pull altitude at 2,500'. So, if the altimeter said 2,500' but the stopwatch said less than 60 seconds, you disregarded the stopwatch and pulled. Likewise, if the stopwatch said 60 seconds, but the altimeter said higher than 2,500', you disregarded the altimeter and pulled. You just trusted whichever instrument gave the lowest alititude indication. The darned things made you do math in your head, while in freefall. Math was hard enough to do in school! Nowadays we just have multiple altimeters, one visual, one audible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #13 April 3, 2006 Back in the early 70's, I had a stop watch along with my altimeter, all on top of my chest mount reserve. It looked really cool to have a dashboard of instruments to look at. To tell you the truth, I don't think I ever did use the stopwatch. Don't know why I even bought the damn thing. I had a hard enough time just reading the altimeter at pull time. I never was too good at Math, particularly when the ground was rushing up to get you....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,467 #14 April 3, 2006 Hi JohnRich, Actually, back in the '60's there were two accuracy events at the Nationals and at any World Meet. A hop-n-pop accuracy event and a 20 sec. delay accuracy event. The 20 sec. delay event had some type of req'ment to be open within + - the 20 sec. mark; I do not remember the allowable + - , though. Therefore, a stopwatch to make sure you were within the proper time delay. Just more trivia for those who care. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skymonkey13 0 #15 April 5, 2006 QuoteHi JohnRich, Actually, back in the '60's there were two accuracy events at the Nationals and at any World Meet. A hop-n-pop accuracy event and a 20 sec. delay accuracy event. The 20 sec. delay event had some type of req'ment to be open within + - the 20 sec. mark; I do not remember the allowable + - , though Therefore, a stopwatch to make sure you were within the proper time delay. Just more trivia for those who care. Jerry Thanks Jerry, it's cool to know that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
