longtall 0 #1 October 4, 2005 can anyone tell me how I can find a PCA patch without inventing a time machine?" 90 right, five miles then cut."---Pukin Buzzards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #2 October 4, 2005 Break into my house and steal mine.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #3 October 4, 2005 dig in the top drawer of my dad's dresser at his house in Opelika, AL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #4 October 4, 2005 Who are you? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1888 0 #5 October 4, 2005 You can come & look at mine. It's sewn on my jumpsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wartload 0 #6 October 4, 2005 When you find that one, go for a NPJRI patch next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 October 4, 2005 Quote can anyone tell me how I can find a PCA patch without inventing a time machine? Good luck. I had one passed down to me from an old-timer, and I framed it and put it on the wall. So I'm not giving mine up. But here's a photo of what it looks like. What's with that odd design, anyway? How come it symbolizes only half of a parachute? Can anyone explain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wartload 0 #8 October 5, 2005 I'm not sure that there was any significance to that at all. Although I don't know for sure, I believe that it was simply a stylistic reflection of what was considered to be modern at that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #9 October 5, 2005 Quote Who are you? Sparky Oh well! I thought I knew of a drawer in the kitchen that could have had 2 or 3 in it. But I guess not. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #10 October 5, 2005 Here is the USPA version of the same design. ArvelBSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 October 5, 2005 Quote Here is the USPA version of the same design. That's interesting. So when PCA became USPA, the just kept the exact same logo, and changed the acronym. Okay, so when did USPA adopt the current logo with wings, a parachute and a shield? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wartload 0 #12 October 6, 2005 The switch from the PCA to the USPA triangle logo was either very early 1968 or late 1967 (maybe effective the new year). Pretty sure that the triangle USPA logo was phased out by USPA in late 1976. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtall 0 #13 October 7, 2005 Thanks for looking" 90 right, five miles then cut."---Pukin Buzzards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 October 7, 2005 I have a very similar one, except mine says "United Federation of Planets" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #15 October 7, 2005 Now that one I didn't know existed. TerryI'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #16 December 30, 2005 The vertical right side of the patch represents vertical descent in free-fall. The 45 degree angle on the left represents tracking through the air. The 60 degree angle towards the bottom is the canopy descent. See us ol' farts aren't useless, after all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 January 2, 2006 Quote The vertical right side of the patch represents vertical descent in free-fall. The 45 degree angle on the left represents tracking through the air. The 60 degree angle towards the bottom is the canopy descent. Wow, so it wasn't something just drawn out on a napkin at a bar in a drunken stupor. It actually symbolizes things that make sense. Who-da-thunk-it? Thanks for that interesting trivia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #18 January 2, 2006 Quote Quote Here is the USPA version of the same design. That's interesting. So when PCA became USPA, the just kept the exact same logo, and changed the acronym. Okay, so when did USPA adopt the current logo with wings, a parachute and a shield? John, I don't remember when the adoption of the current logo was, but the metal wing came in sometime late '60's...perhaps a bit earlier. I have my original set with the "Expert" hanger along with the "Jumpmaster" and "Instructor" hangers...they do date from then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldwing 0 #19 January 5, 2006 USPA stated years ago that the triangular lines on the old PCA/USPA patch were derived from Da Vinci's parachute design sketches. If you see the sketch and cover the right half of the canopy you'll see it.You haven't lived until you've almost died" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 January 5, 2006 Quote USPA stated years ago that the triangular lines on the old PCA/USPA patch were derived from Da Vinci's parachute design sketches. If you see the sketch and cover the right half of the canopy you'll see it. Oh, I like that story! Attached is a comparison of the two. It looks like the PCA patch is a bit more elongated vertically. But I like the idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #21 January 5, 2006 Why don't I contact USPA and see if they have the final say? Either one or both may be correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 January 5, 2006 The explanation I heard when I was a student, though tongue in cheek was entertaining... The top three lines show the landing points for- from left to right ~a Reserve, a Main, and a No Pull....the ground is signified by the horizontal line...the lines below show that no matter WHAT ya do... We're ALL gonna end up in the SAME place... But by using your main...the trip just takes a little LONGER! Edit to add: Ever notice the set of 'rocks' Da vinci drew on his "test jumper"...a man wise before his time! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #23 January 6, 2006 Quote Ever notice the set of 'rocks' Da vinci drew on his "test jumper"...a man wise before his time! I did notice that the drawing seemed to be "anatomically correct". But why in the heck would someone jump that crude parachute while naked? I'd want a leather & bearskin jumpsuit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #24 January 6, 2006 John, Contacted the USPA about the origination of the PCA/USPA patch. Their answer is below: If Bill Ottley were alive, he'd tell you it is the vertical right side represents free fall, the 45 degree left side represents tracking through the air and the 60 degree remaining side stands for the canopy descent. Ironically, we talked about not long ago because I have an old PCA patch and I've always thought that was the story. Where did you get that definition? Larry Bagley Competition Director C-4005 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patworks 5 #25 January 7, 2006 Hey, Yep. I have a PCA patch around here somewhere... patches used to be a BIG DEAL Quote Pat Works nee Madden Travis Works, Jr .B1575, C1798, D1813, Star Crest Solo#1, USPA#189, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
