wceviper 0 #1 May 17, 2002 Hello,I am currently doing my level 3 skydive, last weekend I got a video so I could see if i was having any problems. And I did. I was having problems with Arm awarness. I wasn't keeping my shoulders straight and my arms were totally off. one was out further than the other. anyway. My legs looked great, except for the fact that i bring them in once in a while. during the level 3, I spun both times they let me go. Because of my arms. Then the last time they let me go, the docked with my arms. The JM caught my right arm before I could keep spinning and then grabbed my left arm. as soon as he did that my arms and shoulders got straight and the spin stopped. But he quickly moved to my side again. I had talked with the JM before the jump and ask him if docking with arms would be an option. He did not seem to inclined to do so. how much will instructors work with students? I know I am just a student, and my idea's may not seem right, But I know how I learn. I think it would help alot. ofcourse, now that I know what the problem is, i may fall stable. I have also been thinking about some Wind tunnel time. jammin down to vegas for a few days. I know it would help, and if i fail my next L3 jump, thats where I am going.Thanks for your time.-JasonYou may push me around, but you cannot win!You may throw me down, but i'll rise again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rendezvous 0 #2 May 17, 2002 Well, we all know how we learn the best but thats not always the best way of learning. You can pick up bad habits if you don't learn the right way from someone who's been in it much longer and is trained to impart that knowledge. Woouldn't say that all JM's are good teachers but by enlarge they are so before you start acting on your own advice, I would say listen to the JM and do what he's saying. He may have a reason behind it. Talk to him about. Don't mean to say that you kill your imagination. By all means think of ways but give the benifit of doubt to your JM. Atleast that's how you should start of with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattwhoo 0 #3 May 17, 2002 I was having some problems on my level 6 AFF with stability and after failing it twice I went and did a 10 min block of tunnel time. After that I brezzed through the rest of the lvls it helped me a lot with getting a stable body position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #4 May 17, 2002 Unfortunately I can't make any recomendations without jumping with you. If you can not make it to a tunnel more jumps/air time is the only thing that helps everyone. That is the only time you can learn. Tunnel time would definately be good for anyone myself included. The Vegas tunnel from what I have heard is not the best tunnel to learn in. It is slower than actual freefall so you must wear baggy clothing and fly slightly flatter than you should.Of course I could be way way wrong since this only speculation and not fact. The best recomedation is to just get out there and jump and do not be afraid to add your own ideas/input when briefing with the JM's.Sebazz........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #5 May 18, 2002 My suggestion (keep in mind I'm a newbie) (1) broomstick, (1) expierenced belly jumper/instructor, (15) minutes of your time, (1) creeper/picnic table.Lie down on creeper place brromstick across the back of the lower neck and shoulders and under each wrist. Arch and have the instructor look over your body position and make adjustments hold the arch for a minute then rest. Repeat at least five times.this helps get the correct body position into muscle memory without the stress of freefall......hope that helpsJG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #6 May 18, 2002 Psst! You are not JUST a student, my friend. You are a skydiver, regardless of how many jumps you have, or what AFF Level you are repeating because of your asymmetrical arms. So welcome to the fold, and (by the way) I have been at it for 17 years, and have not stopped learning. I sought some coaching from a more experienced Tandem Instructor than I just this afternoon. For me, the continuous learning curve is part of the joy of being in the sport. Come on down to Raeford and I'll take a picture of your symmetrical mug, smiling for the camera! :)Respectfully,SP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #7 May 18, 2002 Tunnels, drills, blah blah blah. They can all be very helpful, but, the most important thing to do is simply relax physically. Think of it like learning to swim. Air, like water, is a medium. You'll be fine in it. Just arch the trunk of your body and keep your arms and legs a little bit tense and a little bit loose. Falling stable is less about precise body movements and more about balance. Like riding a bike for the first time. You just gotta find your balance. I'm not super experienced (35 jumps), so take it for what it's worth, but student status is a reasonably recent memory for me. Good luck Jason!!!!!Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albatross 0 #8 May 20, 2002 I agree that relaxing is the key and making small corrections not being jerky. Also try lying on the ground or on a creeeper or bed or whatever in front of a mirror at home or a friend at the DZ and hacing them check to see if you are semetrical. If you are out at Perris feel free to ask me in person. Basicly you just need to get the feel and it will all come together.ChrisGod bless us and God Bless AmericaAlbatross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites