pds 0 #1 November 11, 2002 This is revised poll, please vote againnamaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #2 November 11, 2002 Yes the Astra is an AAD, made by FXC. Works on the same principle as a cypres, although there is no student version.----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #3 November 11, 2002 I know spaceland uses cypresses7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohanW 0 #4 November 11, 2002 QuoteThis is revised poll, please vote again I'm missing an option. Some of the rentals have Cypreses, some have FXC's. What do you want to hear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #5 November 11, 2002 Why do so many people put a 2nd "s" on the end of CyPReS?----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #6 November 11, 2002 Quote Why do so many people put a 2nd "s" on the end of CyPReS? good question. I dont know 7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #7 November 11, 2002 QuoteWhy do so many people put a 2nd "s" on the end of CyPReS? I think it is because cypres sounds like the "cypress" tree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #8 November 11, 2002 QuoteQuoteWhy do so many people put a 2nd "s" on the end of CyPReS? I think it is because cypres sounds like the "cypress" tree. For the record: CYbernetic Parachute RElease System = CYPRES. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #9 November 11, 2002 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy do so many people put a 2nd "s" on the end of CyPReS? I think it is because cypres sounds like the "cypress" tree. For the record: CYbernetic Parachute RElease System = CYPRES. The question wasn't "what does it mean?", it was "why do people make the mistake?" I'm guessing he knows the acronym from how he capitalized it. I was speculating as to why people seem to get it wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fred 0 #10 November 12, 2002 I can't cast a vote. The actual "student" rigs (that is, what first jump students wear until graduation) have an FXC. We're taught pretty early on how to check the calibration and so forth. After you graduate, you take transition training, and get a course on using the BOC instead of ripcord, the two-handled reserve procedure (instead of SOS), and the Cypres. You then jump transition rigs until you get your own gear. So the DZ's gear has both FXC's and Cypres (cypri?), depending on where you are in the training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #11 November 12, 2002 >The question wasn't "what does it mean?", it was >"why do people make the mistake?" Because some people can't spell worth a shit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #12 November 12, 2002 Hey!!! Yes the ASTRA is an ADD. AND it is better than the CYPRES for people flying am ultra-high-preformance canopy. I'm amazed at how many blind sheep skydive. If the advertising told you that a parachute wasn't necessary. I bet half of you would still jump. Ignorance is bliss...duh... and PD is the only canopy that flies..."Slow down! You are too young to be moving that fast!" Old Man Crawfish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #13 November 12, 2002 Damn, I though I was the only one who realised this ----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 November 12, 2002 If you are eluding to the possibility of acheiving a fast enough decent rate under canopy to trigger the cypres, the cypres disarms at 300 feet and since thats where the majority of your down speed in a hook is being built at its not a concern. If you do a carve (like most the pro's do), your down speed never comes close to triggering the cypres while your forward speed keeps increasing. I've seen jumpers under sub 60 sqft canopies come in as fast as they can and they never come close to the thresholds of the microprocessor. The Astra brings with it a whole group of issues just like the cypres. They are similar, but neither one is superior to the other.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #15 November 12, 2002 psssst.....phree.......not 300 feet. QuoteIt activates the EOS when it detects a rate of descent higher than 78 mph (35 m/sec) at an altitude of apx 750 feet above ground level (AGL). In the event of a breakaway below this height CYPRES will operate down to apx 130 feet AGL. Below 130 feet AGL opening is no longer useful. For this reason, CYPRES ceases operation below apx 130 feet AGL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #16 November 12, 2002 Thats what I get for trying to remember things before the morning drive to work to wake me up... Reguardless I'd love to see some telemetry data of someone that reaches 75fps under a canopy that they intend to land at sub 900 feet.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,104 #17 November 12, 2002 >Hey!!! Yes the ASTRA is an ADD. AND it is better than the CYPRES >for people flying am ultra-high-preformance canopy. I disagree. The astra is more prone to accidental firing near deployment altitudes, and I have never seen an accidental cypres firing due to a high speed landing. Have you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #18 November 12, 2002 I was clocked (with a laser gun) at 93 mph (136.4 fps) in my dive (starting from 700-900ft, and landing at sea level) and 78 mph (114.4 fps) across the ground at the start of my swoop. I had about 10 jumps on the canopy for that jump. For this reason I don't jump with a Cypres. With the 12 year (and 3 month) end of useful life coming soon for some Cypres's, I am looking for one to put in a fanny pack and take on a jump or two on it to see if I can fire it. Especially now, since I am jumping at 5,400 ft MSL and with Density Altitudes in the summer of over 9,000 ft. Hook Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #19 November 12, 2002 Quote With the 12 year (and 3 month) end of useful life coming soon for some Cypres's, I am looking for one to put in a fanny pack and take on a jump or two on it to see if I can fire it. Oh yeah, an "unairworthy" Cypres is a toy I really want to get my hands on (not to be used with a reserve of course) I was really hoping to get one of the ones in a train wreck off Ebay, but they ended up selling for way too much -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 November 12, 2002 Unless the 93mph was measued with a device attached to you or straight under you, it had horizonal speed added in. How high were you when you were clocked at 93?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #21 November 12, 2002 I hooked almost right over top of him, he was laying on his back, as i came down, he zapped me, then sat up and zapped me in the back in my swoop. the first clocked speed, I was at about 400-600 ft. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #22 November 12, 2002 But the advantage with the Astra is you can turn it off under canopy----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #23 November 12, 2002 At some DZ's... Cypres is all they count for their AAD requirements. The Astra is a wierd device since its version of a battey test is you have to get out a voltmeter and manually test the battery if you want to see how much charge is left. This involves opening the reserve container to get access to it. The Cypres shows it on screen during start up.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #24 November 12, 2002 QuoteBut the advantage with the Astra is you can turn it off under canopy Funny. Traditionally the fact that you can not easily turn it off has been one of the biggest advantages to the Cypres. I do worry that using an Astra instead of a Cypres will become a status symbol among novice and intermediate swoopers - as if anyone but those flying the smallest canopies would even approach activation speeds. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #25 November 12, 2002 Have you tried turning an Astra off in the air - it'd be very hard to do I rekon.----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
