Mad47 0 #1 January 12, 2003 With very little experience (graduated AFF last May) I already noticed that instead of concentrating on pull and mentally preparing for mal (haven’t had one yet) I more and more focus on analysis of personal performance during RW skydive. This tendency scares my a little since it is very easy to loose altitude awareness during this high-speed debrief. However I do it over and over again right after break-off and until pull time. What do experienced RW sky-dogs think about while tracking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #2 January 12, 2003 Usually I'm thinking, "1 - look for other people - 2 - keep looking - 3 - still looking - 4 - still looking - 5 - look, wave, reach, throw" On my 40th jump it was so cool because I was totally in the moment, aware of every little thing, the wind on my face, everybody in freefall with me, the spot, the plane below me. I've only experienced that moment of absolute clarity once since then, but both times it was just unbelievable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #3 January 12, 2003 you forgot to waive off dude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #4 January 12, 2003 I usually think: "Get me away from that freakin' cliff! Get away from the cliff!" Seriously, I'm usually thinking about maxing out the track to gain maximum separation. Tracking is a serious part of most of my jumps, and I try really hard to get moving (of course, I fail miserably most of the time), so I'm pretty focused on the track itself.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #5 January 12, 2003 1-1000) look for traffic...2-1000) make sure shoulders are shrugged 3-1000) get flatter...does every muscle hurt...good...I'm in the right body possition.... 4-1000)Then Look around some more...5-1000)damn those other people need to learn to track took at them dive...6-1000) wow they are pulling already do I need to? nope not yet 7-1000) look some more 8-1000) wave off, look around, pull. under a good canopy by ~2500...am I breaking off high...nope...that was from 4K break off. Every dive you can track better....every dive practice tracking....I see to many people who think they are hauling ass just cause they feel the speed..only problem they are going strait down and barely getting any horizontal separation. If you are doing it right, it should hurt.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #6 January 12, 2003 I once thought to my self while tracking and looking for a certain car in the parking lot below, "I hope Raymond shows up today. I need a haircut" TimMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 January 12, 2003 Think about the fact your going to die in 15 seconds if you don't open your parachute. This might cure you of reviewing your dive. Only slightly kidding. You got a lot to do before you have time to review the dive, at least at your level. This may be a hold over from wondering if you passed the AFF dive. As stated, on smaller dives try to find everybody else during tracking off. I look back under my arm on fourways and such and expect to know where everyone is at. Bigger stuff, that your area is clear. Then wonder "Is this going to be my first malfunction in 1600 jumps?" I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 January 12, 2003 I was serious about the hair cut .... However, I used to really pay attention to body position. What will it take to track faster, and farther? After many jumps I was good at tracking. However, After doing a ton of tracking dives, the skill level increased tremdously so I no longer have to worry about whether or not I'm moving quickly. Something you can do on each dive is to begin practicing a quick precise 180 from the formation into an imeadiate track. That in itself will prove to be a very affective beginning, to the end of the dive. As you track away, notice the others tracking away. look at the ground and see where you are and pay attention to what it looks like. look under you past your feet to see how much distance you are from the group. If you haven't noticed where you are during the skydive, first see where you are. We have hills around us. That will very affectively put you hundreds of feet closer to the ground if you are over them. This also helps you know if you should have payed better attention to your spot also :) See what the ground looks like. Learn what it looks like at pull time. This skill will come in handy if the altimeter stops working and you don't hear your audible. My altimeter stuck at around 11,000 feet once so it was completely useless. Becoming very familiar with what the ground looks like can put you at ease if you find yourself with a useless altimeter. Also knowing what the ground looks like at pull time will instantly allert you if you look down and you find your self low. Good luckMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #9 January 12, 2003 I am usually making 2 way with newbies so here is my deal: 1- look at partner do 180° from center of formation 2- "HEY ITS 180°!!!!" 3-"READ MY MIND!!!! 180°!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 4-"now thats a horrible track, hey hey hey don't don't don't turn back to me!!! tracks are supposed to be straight!" 5-"good now I see his real heading, time to split to get away" 6-"Oh my god he's going to pull, god please help me track faster and farther please please please" 7-"he opened am safe goooooood, woohoo! still have 200 more feets to reach 3000feets, more freefall!" 8-"arch, look around, nobody, reach, pull, let go" when am jumping with experienced jumpers: 1-"180° good" 2-"god my track does sucks" 3-"look everybody is opening" 4-"arch, look around, nobody, reach, pull, let go" HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unutsch 0 #10 January 12, 2003 can i go any lower??? Check out the site of the Fallen Angels FreeflY Organisation: http://www.padliangeli.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #12 January 12, 2003 QuoteI once thought to my self while tracking and looking for a certain car in the parking lot below, "I hope Raymond shows up today. I need a haircut" Tim Dude, Raymond Adams is the shit. I will never pass up a haircut from that dude. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #13 January 13, 2003 Huh That’s how us newbies get confused listening to wrong advices Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #14 January 13, 2003 Quote Dude, Raymond Adams is the shit. I will never pass up a haircut from that dude. Yup Yup... I'm due and he's no where in the area He can skydive pretty good tooYo Mad... altitude and visual queues Good luck and stay safe Tim PS.. and get a haircut by Raymond some day.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #15 January 13, 2003 Tim, Thanks! I will. My hair is kinda short. Is Rymond good at shaving as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #16 January 13, 2003 <>> well.. if you shave it... Don't bother with Raymond however I'm sure he could accomodate. =8^)My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #17 January 13, 2003 I was just kidding about shaving but thanks anyway. Man, this forum is amazing. One can learn here almost as much as in the air ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #18 January 13, 2003 Hmmm, I wonder if farting right now will speed me up???? I got nuthin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #19 January 13, 2003 A good one is to open your mouth big so as much air as possible can blast in. As the air rushes in it will flow rapidly out your nose. This is some what like jet propulsion you'll ROCKET accross the sky with this method.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #20 January 13, 2003 Generally I'm trying to line up with either A) the pond or B) my riggers car, you know, just incase...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #21 January 13, 2003 Hope that was a joke Dave, and if it was just maybe this isn't the forum for it... When I'm tracking I'm thinking about getting good and clear of the people I was jumping with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #22 January 13, 2003 Usually i try to evaluate how high am i (no beeper)."George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #23 January 13, 2003 ussually i'm thinking "how the hell does that relatively short little F#^ker move like that?? technique technique technique... or on big way tracking dives.. "grrr i really dont want to give up my altitude..i really wish they'd try to float a bit more....geeezzz."____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unutsch 0 #24 January 13, 2003 Quote Generally I'm trying to line up with either A) the pond or B) my riggers car, you know, just incase... Check out the site of the Fallen Angels FreeflY Organisation: http://www.padliangeli.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #25 January 13, 2003 wait till Jerman hears about this "George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
