Australian AFF statistics

[marcin 0]

I need to know the total number of AFF jumps in Australia in 2001/2002 and AFF safety record in those years.

Any idea where I can get this?
Thanks
Marcin

[mikkey 0]

Have a look at the APF web site under publications. There is a lot of information. http://www.apf.asn.au If you can't find what you are looking for try e-mailing the APF's technical director. E-mail links are provided on the web site.

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[marcin 0]

Did both, just need it quite urgently.
M.

[Squeak 17]

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Did both, just need it quite urgently.
M.

hehe good luckt the APF is the only one that would have this info why not try and phone them, it should be quicker

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[Tonto 1]

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[Squeak 17]

I was, my wife rubbed my nose in it afetr for peeing on the carpet

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[Jasmin 0]

And people think a life around skydivers could make me weird?!!!!?!
Only the apf has this data, their phone is
+61 2 62 816 830
why the need for the data?

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[marcin 0]

Thanks, I've go it now.

We are working on the new skydiving regulations in my country and there was a public debate on the use of Cypres. Australia was brought as an example of using/allowing PPKU (ancient Russian mechanical device opening the main parachute) for student jumps with apparent success.

Some people here would rather support the mandatory use of modern devices like Cypres. I wanted to know the safety record and statistical significance of AFF jump numbers in Australia to assess if it can be used as a valid argument.

In the process I learnt that routinely (on some DZ's) certain part/all of AFF jumps was reported as tandem jumps or larger groups of AFF students were registered under one name - all this for insurance purposes (cheaper for tandem). Therefore the statistics are largely unreliable for 2002 (now apparently the first 3 AFF jumps are offcially tandem).

By the way the estimated 2.000-2.500 students per year, translating into max. 25.000 AFF jumps per year seem quite a lot to me. Obviously skydiving must be popular in Australia.

[riggerrob 643]

Installing PPKU, KAP3, FXC 12000 auto-openers on student main containers is a rigger's nightmare.
Yes the logic is sound: "I would rather a student hanging under a malfunctioned main at 2,000 feet than a reserve at 750 feet," but the devil is in the details.
When I worked at Rigging Innovations, we build some Telesis student containers for the Perris Valley Skydiving School that had FXC 12000 AADs on the mains. It was a real riggers' nightmare getting those FXCs to work with two ripcords. The end result was difficult to pack and extremely sensitive to closing loop length.
When we finished the last Telesis for PVSS, Sandy Reid quietly said that those were the last FXC/2 ripcord Telesis R.I. would ever build.
R.I. also built hundreds of Telesis (with FXC mains) for the United States Air Force Academy, where they learned that FXCs installed on mains are high wear items.
And one of my last rigging tasks at Perris was to remove all the FXCs from their mains and retrofit double-ended BOCs.
Which brings us to our conclusion. Main AADs are old school while BOC and Cypres are new school. Also remember that main AADs make it almost impossible to install a second main ripcord for the reserve-side AFF instructor.

If Hungarian skydiving schools are going to invest in student gear, they might as well buy modern gear with Cypres (in reserve) and double-ended BOC.

[mikkey 0]

I have not seen any PPKU down here. I kow KAP are still legal and there is a company servicing them. I think most use FXC on the main for AFF (at least where I jump) and the SOS handle system.

In regard to safety, have not heard about any major accidents with AFF students - except for you usual landing issues. Don't have stats but think safety record is very good for AFF in OZ.

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When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray.

[jumpy 0]

At least where I jump we have FXC's on our aff rigs and SOS handles as well. Apparently our rigs used to have two ripcords as well but they where removed (this is before my time though).

[Squeak 17]

We have Kaps AND Cypress on our student Telesis SOS systems, possibly overkill but the KAP seems pretty simple to install on the single ripcoard rigs we use, they do need regualr maintenace though as the fire off on EVeRY jump.

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My Life ROCKS!
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