Jimbo 0 #1 January 9, 2003 Available here Edit: Fixed the link. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #2 January 9, 2003 Isn't it amazing that someone can get elected as a RD with as few as 43 votes, yet to get on the ballot one needs 10% of the members in the region to sign the nomination. Something about this is not right.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #3 January 9, 2003 Man, I had 3 votes, and I didn't get on the list! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #4 January 9, 2003 QuoteIsn't it amazing that someone can get elected as a RD with as few as 43 votes, yet to get on the ballot one needs 10% of the members in the region to sign the nomination. Something about this is not right. I thought that region didn't have anyone on the ballot.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #5 January 9, 2003 QuoteQuoteIsn't it amazing that someone can get elected as a RD with as few as 43 votes, yet to get on the ballot one needs 10% of the members in the region to sign the nomination. Something about this is not right. I thought that region didn't have anyone on the ballot. The rules make it very very difficult for non-incumbents to get on the ballot for RD. What purpose does this serve?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #6 January 9, 2003 Quote Quote Quote Isn't it amazing that someone can get elected as a RD with as few as 43 votes, yet to get on the ballot one needs 10% of the members in the region to sign the nomination. Something about this is not right. I thought that region didn't have anyone on the ballot. The rules make it very very difficult for non-incumbents to get on the ballot for RD. What purpose does this serve? You're asking me to make sense of the USPA? it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #7 January 9, 2003 I guess it didn't help that he appeared to have run unchallenged in his region. HarryI don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 January 9, 2003 QuoteI guess it didn't help that he appeared to have run unchallenged in his region. Harry They (The RDs) nearly all ran unchallenged. Why? Because it's so freaking difficult to get on the ballot for RD unless you are an incumbent! In Western you would need over 400 signatures on your petition, and over 350 in Southeast. How many RDs received 350 or more votes in the ballot? If we were overwhelmed with RD candidates I could see the point of the nomination rule. However, that is not the case.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,583 #9 January 9, 2003 QuoteBecause it's so freaking difficult to get on the ballot for RD unless you are an incumbent It becomes a real popularity contest. We had someone in the Gulf conference who wanted to run for RD, but had enough bogus signatures given him that he wasn't eligible (and he tried -- I've known him for years). Might be time to re-think that one. The 10% who actually vote can vote against someone they don't want in the job, rather than making it so they can't get on the ballot in the first place... Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itllclear 1 #10 January 10, 2003 In the last two elections, the non-incumbent in the Western Region WAS able to get the 10%. It was a lot of work, but it definitely is possible. Blue Skies! Harry Leicher"Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #11 January 10, 2003 QuoteIn the last two elections, the non-incumbent in the Western Region WAS able to get the 10%. It was a lot of work, but it definitely is possible. Blue Skies! Harry Leicher Does that mean the policy is right? There were many regions in 2002 with no challengers at all.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #12 January 10, 2003 I'm from the region where the incumbent was reelected with 43 votes. There have been challengers to unsuccessfully attempt collecting the 10% necessary to be listed on the ballot, but I don't think they tried a write-in campaign. I'm happy with the current director because he has the time and interest to visit the many small drop zones in a region 500 miles across, with a short jumping season. He does a good job representing us, and those of us who skydive a lot are grateful he is on the road instead of us. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 January 10, 2003 Actually, what's amazing to me (and this isn't intended to be a dig, but it's going to sound an awful lot like one), is that a DZO couldn't get more than -18- people to vote for him. Sheesh! I would have thought that ANY DZO would have at least one full otter load worth of folks willing to vote for him.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #14 January 10, 2003 QuoteActually, what's amazing to me (and this isn't intended to be a dig, but it's going to sound an awful lot like one), is that a DZO couldn't get more than -18- people to vote for him. Sheesh! I would have thought that ANY DZO would have at least one full otter load worth of folks willing to vote for him. I hope you're kidding. It was 18 more than he asked for. He wasn't a candidate, didn't attempt to solicit write in votes, and encouraged people to vote for others.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 January 10, 2003 Ahhh . . . that explains it then. I wonder how many "Mickey Mouse" got?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #16 January 11, 2003 QuoteIsn't it amazing that someone can get elected as a RD with as few as 43 votes, yet to get on the ballot one needs 10% of the members in the region to sign the nomination. Something about this is not right. Yep. That's my home region, North Central. I didn't vote for him, but instead wrote in someone who will probably run next year. Also, see the votes in the Southwest region? Hey AggieDave, I guess the rumors I have heard about the good doctors popularity down there have at least some truth to them, huh?It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #17 January 11, 2003 Drop zones in northern-tier regions like the North Central are typically closed or on winter hours at the time of USPA elections, making it difficult to organize a campaign. I'd like to see elections moved up to September or October. Rev Jim -- who's your write-in? Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #18 January 11, 2003 Paul, Roger ran on a ONE TERM ONLY platform in the previous election. And true to his word, even though many asked him to run again, he kept his word and did not run as a ND. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #19 January 12, 2003 I'm aware of that -- now. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
