suicide

[pengy 0]

which is the best way to commit skydiving suicide? main aspect: to hurt the sport as little as possible

/David

[billvon 3,116]

OD on morphine and leave a note, at least if you don't want to hurt the sport. Better yet, solve the problem and avoid taking your own life (or get your friend to some help, if one of your friends starts talking about it.) Using someone's DZ to kill yourself is pretty selfish.

[skybytch 273]

If this is a troll, it's not funny.

If you're serious, please check your phone book under Psychotherapists and make an appointment with someone.

[quade 4]

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main aspect: to hurt the sport as little as possible

First, sell your gear and let your membership in all skydiving organizations lapse. This may take up to a year so that should also give you plenty of time to rethink what the F you're doing.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[jlmiracle 7]

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which is the best way to commit skydiving suicide? main aspect: to hurt the sport as little as possible

/David

It would be impossible to commit suicide skydiving without hurting the sport.

If you commit suicide, you no longer have a way out, so just don't do it.


Judy

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[wmw999 2,588]

If you're thinking about suicide, then finding someone to talk to is good. You can post something on Ivillage and look about halfway down on the right, to Crisis Center: Rape, Stalking and Suicide. There are a lot of resources in there even if you never post anything.

Consider -- if you can escape your worst current problems by moving to another city or country and living in a homeless shelter, then you should do so. Because that's better than removing all options.

Wendy W.

A couple more resources if you're really outside the US:
Befrienders International lots of information in lots of languages;
there's a Find a Helpline pull-down menu ordered by country.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rhino 0]

I agree with Bytch.. It isn't funny..

Skydivers jump to live not the contrary..

Rhino

[jerry81 10]

Try walking into a propeller of a jump plane. Or throw yourself off a cliff and pretend it's BASE, but without a parachute.
No, seriously, get someone to talk to. If you're considering suicide and asking for advice about it, it means you haven't given up completely just yet. Hold onto life, pointless as it may seem sometimes.
And btw, interesting profile. Any good dropzones on the Pacific Islands?

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[CrazyThomas 0]

hmmm....since I have thought about it, I would say:
I recommend HOOK TURNS. This requires you to get really proficient at skydiving, then people will BELIEVE it was an accident.
And make sure you have a highly loaded, radical postage stamp canopy.
That, or BASE jump.
Or go talk to someone who cares for you, and maybe they can help you see life again.
Peace,
Thomas

[JJohnson 0]

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Doing it by skydiving really does not hurt the sport. You'll be forgotten as a statistic within a month.
The hurt you cause is only to those who care about you.

If this is a troll it is in bad taste. Suicide is pretty ugly under any circumstances and pretty unforgivable. I've lost too many loved ones this way.

JJ

JJ

"Call me Darth Balls"

[rhino 0]

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Try walking into a propeller of a jump plane.

You need help... Then you risk others having to deal with what they saw for the rest of their lives..

This thread should be locked already...

Rhino

[billvon 3,116]

>You need help... Then you risk others having to deal with what they
>saw for the rest of their lives..

I agree; doing things like that is pretty selfish. It leaves a pretty big scar on the people you share the sport with. There's generally no good reason for taking one's own life, and if someone wants to do it in a spectacular way, they are doing it for some very screwed up reasons.

I once heard good advice for people seriously considering offing themselves - hike into the desert (bring some water) and wait for starvation to do you in. That way you have a while to consider if it's what you really want to do, and it's time away from the issues that may be driving you to do it.

Better yet, talk to someone who has been through this before. There are people in his position that have been there before, and they made it through.

I haven't locked this thread yet because there is the off chance that it was a serious question, and perhaps some good can come out of people answering that question, and maybe even giving this guy a few alternatives to his plan. I realize it's probably a troll, but if it turns out to be that, nothing lost.

[rhino 0]

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I haven't locked this thread yet because there is the off chance that it was a serious question, and perhaps some good can come out of people answering that question, and maybe even giving this guy a few alternatives to his plan. I realize it's probably a troll, but if it turns out to be that, nothing lost.

Good point......

[homer 0]

I had a good friend suck on a bullet. This shit aint no laughing matter. If this is a troll I'm going to FUCK YOU UP.
Get help man or your friend who ever it is. There are people to talk to. Remember YOUR NOT ALONE.

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recommend HOOK TURNS. This requires you to get really proficient at skydiving, then people will BELIEVE it was an accident.

Hey, I just got my demo canopy today if someone wants to try it out. I asked for a Sabre2 170 and they sent me a Stiletto 107. I don't think I'm going to demo it any time soon. Not unless you all want to read about me in the next Parachutists "incidents" section.

CSA #699 Muff #3804

[Zenister 0]

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Try walking into a propeller of a jump plane.

You need help... Then you risk others having to deal with what they saw for the rest of their lives..

not to mention all the time and energy to get goo off everyones rigs and suits..

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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[pengy 0]

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and if someone wants to do it in a spectacular way, they are doing it for some very screwed up reasons.

my question was how to make it as non-spectacular as possibly. i can think of lots of things, make sure no tandems or students are around, do a solo, last load for the day, small dz for example, but there might be things i haven´t thought of.

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doing things like that is pretty selfish

suicides are very selfish, else it shouldn´t be done. But it still could be well thought-out and well planned to make sure it succeeds and to not give people who are around bigger problems than absolute minimum.

[12bhi 0]

Just spark one up and watch some old lassie
reruns....It will bring you back to terms with yourself.
Hey,life is pretty damn short anyways! You may
as well try to enjoy the rest of its ride...
Thats the joy of skydiving ,you can flirt with death
but you dont have to sleep with itkeep breathing dude!!!

[billvon 3,116]

>my question was how to make it as non-spectacular as possibly.

As I said before, hike into the desert with no food. No violence, no spectacle, and lots of time to think about if you really want to do it. I suspect the person will decide they do not.

>suicides are very selfish, else it shouldn´t be done. But it still could
> be well thought-out and well planned to make sure it succeeds and
> to not give people who are around bigger problems than absolute
> minimum.

Then don't try anything like that at a DZ, or indeed around people at all. Generally, people who try to kill themselves around other people are doing it as a cry for help. Much simpler to skip that step and just _get_ the help you need without risking anyone else's life or livelihood.

[eyeinthesky 0]

geeez, what could possibly be so bad that ending life solves it? ever think about the possibility of what there may be after you succeed in killing yourself? dwell on that for a while....you cant prove it one way or another, so why do it?

doug

hey, i was stupid before stupid was cool!

[Kolla 0]

Holy cow Peter!!!
Man, looks like I will need to have a little talk with the ladies in the shipping dept tomorrow - this might also mean that there is a lady in AZ wondering what the hell to do with the Sabre2 she just received... man oh man
Lets get hook up first thing tomorrow, wonder if there is Sat. delivery in your area so I can send you another one???
We will work that out in the AM - I sincerely apologize.
I'm very sorry about this, will try my best to make get this straightened out ASAP.... and stay off that 107 please Blue ones!!
Kolla

Blue Skies Magazine

[pengy 0]

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hike into the desert with no food

starving is painful, who would like to die like that

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Generally, people who try to kill themselves around other people are doing it as a cry for help

taking drugs, cut veins, starving, freezing or anything else slow when there are people around could be a cry for help.

going headdown into the ground would end life instantly without a chance for anyone to stop it, and therefore it couldn´t be only a cry for help

[Jimbo 0]

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starving is painful, who would like to die like that

Someone who was actually committed to the idea of taking their own life probably wouldn't mind.

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Jim

"Like" - The modern day comma
Good bye, my friends. You are missed.

[billvon 3,116]

>starving is painful, who would like to die like that

Lots of people do; native americans used to go on vision quests where they would fast in the desert. Eventually they'd get so hypoglycemic they'd start to hallucinate. Throughout history, fasting in the wild has been done by people looking to clear their heads or understand their lives better. They don't describe it as painful.

Besides, killing yourself is the end of everything. If you're worried about being hungry but not about being dead, something's very wrong.

>going headdown into the ground would end life instantly without a
> chance for anyone to stop it, and therefore it couldn´t be only a cry
> for help

Doing it around people means someone can stop you. If that wasn't a concern you wouldn't be doing it around people, and if you really wanted to do it you wouldn't be asking about it. Again, skip that whole step and just get help before it turns into a 'will anyone catch me first?' game.

[ladyskydiver 0]

But asking the question does suggest a cry for help. Those that ask questions or hint about it usually are asking to be given a reason to live or asking for someone to try and stop them.

I sincerely hope this is a sick joke and not the truth. I lost a friend to suicide and miss him. I saw the trauma that his family went through wondering "Why?" Do not do this...seek help...talk to someone. Suicide doesn't affect just you. It affects everyone around you - your friends, family, and even those that care about you that you do not realize care about you.

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

[CrazyThomas 0]

Not everyone likes this topic here. I asked about this in different ways, with not much better results.
Although I got this.
Try this link.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=alt.suicide.methods

If nothing else, it showed me MORE people who have thoughts of dis-liking life in a big way. Of course, we are all still around, or wouldn't be posting.
Sometimes it just helps to talk about it.
Make sure you do so with the right people. I would hate for you to run into that little person who says:
All talk, no action.
Please consider the other people in your life. This may not be fun, but then again, who said life was SUPPOSED to be fun?
Peace,
Thomas
p.s. Staying alive always leaves hope for things to get better. Just keep thinking...things CAN get better. Even if this is the low point in life, that means things can only get better.