Newbie 0 #1 January 14, 2003 in the video there is a section where some free flyers have completed a jump, and one of them has an open canopy and his friend is holding on to the risers (i think) and then drops off back into freefall. How the hell did he get there? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 January 14, 2003 Possible terminal Mr. Bill, or just really good editing to make a subterminal Mr. Bill appear to be at pull time on a freefly jump. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petur 0 #3 January 14, 2003 I saw a video on headdown.net called "High Up There" by Calle Brolin which demonstrates this. It was a hop-n-pop where one guy held the other and later while under a single canopy he let go and took another freefall. Here's the tecnique http://www.avroko.com/wcs/code_scenario.htm?scenarioid=8 And frame-grabs from the video I mentioned are attached --- P. "It Hurts to Admit When You Make Mistakes - But When They're Big Enough, the Pain Only Lasts a Second." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #4 January 14, 2003 Quote Possible terminal Mr. Bill, or just really good editing to make a subterminal Mr. Bill appear to be at pull time on a freefly jump. yeah im sure they edited it, it was probably a hop n pop, but still, it looked weird - how do you do that, just grab the risers as the main deploys? Is that safe? By the way, who is Mr Bill? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #5 January 14, 2003 I saw this "life-saving" technique before- it's a nice read for whuffos, but any of us will probably notice the flaws; you'd have to pull way above everyone else to take such action in the event of a total malfunction, your friend would have a very hard time steering with just one hand and if the canopy is anything below 200sq.ft., it would mean it's probably loaded at more than 2:1, which would make for one hell of a crash landing with the flaring done with only one hand. (Perhaps an experienced swooper would see a challenge in this?) Nah, this can be done for fun, but I wouldn't place it among the frefall emergency procedures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #6 January 14, 2003 >just grab the risers as the main deploys? Is that safe? Only if you want to have your fingers ripped up by the webbing. Its a lot more involved then just grabbing on (I've never done one) but basiclly you exit linked very tightly, but if the forces are too much during opening the person just lets go and they just continue to freefall and someone has a really lonely hop and pop. If it works out and they hang on through the opening... its a matter of letting go, while hangin on to the person and moving around with out touching handles, then an exit like a balloon jump. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #7 January 16, 2003 >how do you do that, just grab the risers as the main deploys? Basically, the "pilot" exits with the "passenger" holding on. The way I've done it is that the passenger holds on to the main lift web of the pilot's rig. Sort of like a tandem passenger, but facing the pilot. The one time I've actually pulled it off I grabbed the passenger as well after throwing the PC. >Is that safe? No, see my post about a Mr.Bill gone wrong. >By the way, who is Mr Bill? http://www.mrbill.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #8 January 16, 2003 Quote >how do you do that, just grab the risers as the main deploys? Basically, the "pilot" exits with the "passenger" holding on. The way I've done it is that the passenger holds on to the main lift web of the pilot's rig. Sort of like a tandem passenger, but facing the pilot. The one time I've actually pulled it off I grabbed the passenger as well after throwing the PC. >Is that safe? No, see my post about a Mr.Bill gone wrong. >By the way, who is Mr Bill? http://www.mrbill.com/ i must be totally dense but i still don't know why it's called a mister bill . Anyway thanks for dropping the knowledge on how it's done "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #9 January 16, 2003 >i must be totally dense but i still don't know why it's called a mister bill. Hey, I have no idea either, you just asked who he was... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #10 January 19, 2003 QuotePossible terminal Mr. Bill, or just really good editing to make a subterminal Mr. Bill appear to be at pull time on a freefly jump. No, actually, it was terminal! Buuuuut, they cheated. Using a Paratec Next tandem an experienced skydiver wore the passenger harness back to front under his own rig so that he could be clipped face-to-face with the Tandem Instructor. After some drogue-fall the tandem parachute was deployed normally. Mr. Bill then unclips and climbs up onto Sluggo's shoulders where they flew around for a while before jumping off and deploying his own parachute. There's a picture on the Paratec website. As I remember, it went down very well in the bar that evening on the daily edit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
