Cornholio 0 #1 January 24, 2003 Looking through this months issue of Parachutist, there is a picture of a hybrid formation called "Cup and Saucer." It is located in the center of the magazine, you can't miss it. If someone could scan it and post it, that would be great. I'm at work and can't do it right now. I am curious if anyone here has done this ?? What is the procedure for accomplishing something like this ? Is it launched the same way as a hybrid, but then the hangers just kick their legs up under the arms of the belly fliers ? It appears as if it is a pretty stable formation, with the sitters/hangers locked into place. I am adding that to my list of things to try next time someone suggests "HYBRID!!" I doubt it will have as many people as the picture shows, but a good 6 or 8-way ought to be fun. BTW, I am posting this here, since it really does not qualify as RW nor FF, but more of a hybrid, but it is a formation. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ERICCONNELLY 0 #2 January 24, 2003 Saw it. It looked fun. My guess would be to build this as an 8-way flat w/ 4 as base and the other 4 with leg grips. Transition as with a horny gorillia. Am I right? Will try next time I get a chance... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #3 January 24, 2003 Sorry, I have no scanner. But something of a safety concern look at the picture again and see if you notice anything posing a potential risk hazard. Give up? Look at the dude at the bottom looking at the camera. His pin cover has come open and in a sit like he is could allow for enough wind drag to pull the bridal out causing a premature deployment. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #4 January 24, 2003 Dido what he said, seen it happen and a dislocated shoulder was the result, its simple, don't oufly your gear, or update yo shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #5 January 24, 2003 This was originated a LONG time ago by belly fliers We'll use 6 people as an example: First get 6 skydivers: Jump out of the plane 3 form a round the next 3 fill in the gaps, leg or harness grip on the people to each side. Pod? On a count the out side peope just flip their feet under to the middle. Now to make it even more fun, The inside 3 do the same, so every one is upside down. Edit: I don't recall which production video, one of Mike Mc Gowans I believe) there is a Great sequence of the Golden Knights 8 way team doing this. Think about it, they got paid for that :)My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #6 January 24, 2003 QuoteSaw it. It looked fun. My guess would be to build this as an 8-way flat w/ 4 as base and the other 4 with leg grips. Transition as with a horny gorillia. Am I right? Will try next time I get a chance... That is exactly it. Leg strap grips, flip your feet under. If you are wearing booties, it won't happen. It also is not very easy to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #7 January 25, 2003 Several of us at Palatka saw the picture and said WTF, why not? But instead of eight, we did twelve. We launched a four-way chunk from the Otter (Mahalo Aero-Ohio for the lender) and then had two floaters join it for a six-way star. The divers flaked the star docking on leg straps. We waited until the formation was very stable, and then a really good skydiver did a very deliberate key; head back, head down head back. The second time the head went back, all the flakes transitioned through a sit to link their feet under the arms of the people in the star. Interestingly enough, five of the flakes did it in unison, and the sixth was a little late. You could feel the formaion dip and on the video it appears to slide in that direction. The sixth person did get into position and we were stable by about 9,000 feet. We only dirt-dove two points, so we did everything very slow and waited for everything to settle out at each phase. Once we were stable at 9,000, we all kinda looked at each other and said, okay, now what? We tried to get photo's, but they didn't come out. We did get video, however. Beautifully shot, too, with the papermill majestically framed in the background. It's so clear you can almost smell it in the video. It's a fun jump if you have the time, people, altitude, and airplane.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites