Newbie 0 #1 January 23, 2003 Is it vertical relative work, i.e. rw thats head down and head up etc etc, i.e. freeflyer rw? How is vrw different from rw? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blewaway5 0 #2 January 23, 2003 Quote Is it vertical relative work, i.e. rw thats head down and head up etc etc, i.e. freeflyer rw? And therein lies you answer. Truman Sparks for President Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #3 January 23, 2003 Well, you've really already answered your question. As for how it is different from rw; you have two more axis for turns, you're more likely to have fun even if you screw up the formation, it will be a while before a vrw 300-way is attempted and the suits are different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 January 23, 2003 Maybe THIS will help a little. This is the first chapter to a book called "The Art of vRW" and was written by one of the grand old men in the sport, Pat Works. Pat Works was skydiving far before most of the people on dz.com were born and today he's still one of the most respected people in skydiving -- not just for his history either. He's a hell of a good freefly skydiver and active right now often giving free coaching at Perris and other drop zones in southern California.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #5 January 23, 2003 QuotePat Works was skydiving far before most of the people on dz.com were born and today he's still one of the most respected people in skydiving -- not just for his history either. He's a hell of a good freefly skydiver and active right now often giving free coaching at Perris and other drop zones in southern California Pat is one of the most engaging people I have had the pleasure of knowing. He can fly people like a cheap kite too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #6 January 24, 2003 Quote As for how it is different from rw; you have two more axis for turns, you're more likely to have fun even if you screw up the formation, Yes, if an RW dive went like a freefly dive...we would call it a zoo and try like hell never to do it again.Ron"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 January 24, 2003 Hopefully that's just a joke. I'll admit that some FF loads look very much like an experiment in chaos theory, but quality vRW is something quite different. I watch videos by the top vRW teams with the same awe as I have for the top 4-way teams.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unutsch 0 #8 January 24, 2003 Quote . This is the first chapter to a book called "The Art of vRW" and was written by one of the grand old men in the sport, Pat Works. that's my bible!!! Check out the site of the Fallen Angels FreeflY Organisation: http://www.padliangeli.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #9 January 24, 2003 Quote I watch videos by the top vRW teams with the same awe as I have for the top 4-way teams. The Flyboyz rock!!! Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous 0 #10 January 24, 2003 Quote you're more likely to have fun even if you screw up the formation, it mmmmmmm....... I'm gonna have to puzzle this one out I guess. I'm an RW guy who always has fun. Am I doing something wrong? BSBD'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skr 1 #11 January 30, 2003 > > you're more likely to have fun even if you screw up the formation > I'm gonna have to puzzle this one out I guess. > I'm an RW guy who always has fun. > Am I doing something wrong? No, it's just the current fashion to confuse body position with attitude and type of activity. Here's an excerpt from http://indra.net/~bdaniels/ftw/soc_ev_skydiving.html Skydiving has become main stream and the commercialization of it is remaking the landscape. We now have a fifth kind of person coming out to jump. Many people divide the world according to body position or type of activity, but I see five main categories: #1 The artist, explorer, pioneer, innovator, questor. #2 The recreational but totally hooked every weekender. #3 The professional - movies, demos, jumpmaster, livlihood. #4 The competitor - numbers/comparison in a restricted format. #5 The mainstreamer - comes out 5, 10, 20 times a year, maybe takes a week long skydiving vacation. Skr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites