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Substitute surfing and skateboarding for skydiving. If you dont get it than go and surf. Im sure eloy isnt twisting your arm to stay there. Walk away. Be a man and do a tandem and go to the coast to do what you love.



No, maybe not, but Im just a little curious, why the big rush? I just think its a little weird. Whats the rush? Why not take a year to get it? The hang school was kind of behaving the same way, you can see on their website it looks like they dont want to fly anyone who isnt just totally committed full time but just wants to do it for kicks.

Thats my point. Choose one thing, whats it gonna be? Take your pic. I think Ill take your suggestion, go on the tandem, then wait till winter, then continue on. Its either that or, quit my job, win the lottery...yea right. Ive been to Vegas too many times and I never win shit, so I guess that ones' out.

If I need to freeze my ass off in the winter, Id sure much rather do that skydiving instead of surfing. Make sonse?

I sure wish I could do everything, but then again, I sure wish I could have a million bucks. Cant have everything. I wanted to start racing too, they have that out here. There's so much shit to do out west it can drive you up the wall at times. I wish I had more vacation time, more money, thats what I need.

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Im a skydiver and I think most others would agree here. If you have to plan on skydiving down the road to fill in your time than this sport is not for you. After my first tandem I sold the car I was building because I knew I had found my new obsession. There is no rush because if you told eloy that you werent interested in skydiving they would not force you into it.

Johnny
--"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!"
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If I need to freeze my ass off in the winter, Id sure much rather do that skydiving instead of surfing. Make sonse?


Ummm... no. If surfing is "a source" and so very important to you, why wouldn't you want to surf when it's cold too? Isn't that what wetsuits are for?

Geez, the surfers I knew when I lived on the coast were out there every day regardless of the temperature. Guess surfing, or some "surfers" at least, isn't as hard core nowadays as it used to be...

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the surfers I knew when I lived on the coast were out there every day regardless of the temperature



Look at it this way, if how he treats skydiving is any indication, then the rest of his hobbies are probably fairly half-assed. Even the people I know that have been in the sport for 3 years and only have 50 jumps still LOVE skydiving, they just have something else that keeps them from being able to really do it full time (like lack of $$).

This isn't a sport you can half ass, people have tried before, most of them are dead now, or they got really hurt.
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Yeah its not that you have to live at the dz. I know people with low jump #'s that stare at the sky like I do. Something tells me this guy has posters of keannu reeves and patrick swayze on his walls.

Johnny
--"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!"
Mike Rome

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Im a skydiver and I think most others would agree here. If you have to plan on skydiving down the road to fill in your time than this sport is not for you. After my first tandem I sold the car I was building because I knew I had found my new obsession. There is no rush because if you told eloy that you werent interested in skydiving they would not force you into it.



I get the same kind of attitude about that from the hang gliders and dont understand why you have to be that serious about it to be interested in it. Thats what Im getting at.

Youre probably right, need to just stick with one thing and not try to get into everything, something told me that was going to be a mistake. I ahould be out of here in about a year, hopefully when the economy picks up, then move out to the west coast.

Youve got to give up something to get something. And I think THATS going to be expensive.

Youve got a good point there, thanks. I needed somebody to talk some sense into me because I couldnt.

Later.

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I get the same kind of attitude about that from the hang gliders and dont understand why you have to be that serious about it to be interested in it. Thats what Im getting at.



Because if you're not, it will probably kill you.

Johnny
--"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!"
Mike Rome

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Yeah its not that you have to live at the dz. I know people with low jump #'s that stare at the sky like I do. Something tells me this guy has posters of keannu reeves and patrick swayze on his walls.



Get serious, the last one asked me if I starred in that movie. It was a great movie, but I promise you, it has nothing to do with it, nothing.

I have to explain this, its not the reason why I started skydiving, the reason was becasue I got pissed off when I was supposed to go hang gliding when the instructor broke his arm, so I wanted to do something radical. It was kind of a challenge, so I wanted to do it again. Thats the story.

Ive been styling Rip Curl for a long time now, always wanted to go to Australia and know about Bells, and have been planning on moving to Cal for awhile now.

I know what it sounds like, but its purely coincidental, and it has nothing to do with the movie.

But it was a good movie. I liked Blue Crush too, nice waves, great wipeouts. Cute blonde.

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wow dude you really have a skewed perspective of Eloy..

dude you need to get a clue, your zip code is less than 30 min from eloy that early on sat, you call your self a surfer and you take 1 1/2 hours to get up and ready in the morning?? wtf?? dude the HC surfers i know would tar and feather you if you took more than 2 min to get outta bed when the waves are breaking...can you say "poser"??

but if waking up is such a chore, you need to take up tiddly winks cause bowling is to much for you, and your likely to make an ugly mess on one ofmy favorite patches of grass..

"why Cutaway?"

i'm currently in the preparation process of doing exactly that just like surfers world wide have done to follow their passions, i guess your passion is running your mouth..giving up 70k a year (and loads of travel to scenic places like Korea, Afganistan and Iraq:P) to play in the sky all day every day, wake up, greet the sun and then dance till sunset. see the simple joy people who actually live have after thier first jum, party and play with the most incredible people in the world and then do it all over again..

btw more than half of the locals you see wandering around probably ignoring your lama self, since they can smell your hairspray from miles awaythere surf as well (as do i)..its cool, but its nothing like the sky..

btw. those arent montains in PHX those are hills, barely suitable for a BASE jump..come to the NW and i'll show you mountains..probably cant spell petzel either i bet



stylin? you should change your name to posin

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yeah, yeah i should know better... but flaming trolls it a great past time when i'm stuck in the middle of the mojave. i need some air...13k worth...
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dont see how. Once you know and practice the procedures, you know the procedures. How hard can it be?


Wow man, you floored me with that one. Keep to the hollywood skydiving before you hurt someone.

Johnny
--"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!"
Mike Rome

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We are talking about skydiving here, and DZs. Surely youre not going to give it all up for that? Get serious, what are you trying to do, make yourselves miserable or just bore yourselves to death? Youre beginning to worry me. Go get a surfboard, Im going out next weekend.



Since you do not live on a DZ nor are you a competitor in this sport you do not have the knowledge nor the frame of reference to understand why people chose to live in this manner. I find it interesting that one would call our lives boring, not having foggiest notion as to what the locals do or do not do. The post here makes assumptions that are niether based on fact or experience.
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Yeah it was a great movie except for, well, everything. Especially all the skydiving. If you think your in for 8 minute freefalls on your first jump, well go for it. A thousand feet, Pull!



I know, I know, thats just Hollywood, its all just entertainment. I think it was less than a thousand feet, and they both miraculously survived!!! Isnt it great what these actors can do? Maybe they shoud be teaching skydiving. Keaunu Reeves is a great surfer too, he picked it all up in the movie in about, what was it, one day??? Boy could this guy surf after just one day, wish I could do that.

Dont forget, you dont really need a parachute to jump out of an airplane, if its too inconvenient for you to wear one, just jump out and catch up with someone who is wearing one. I would have never figured that out on my own.

I wouldnt complain about it too much if I were you, ever seen that movie "Cutaway"?

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How hard can it be?



www.skydivingfatalities.com



Description: After a normal opening well upwind of the dropzone, this jumper flew her canopy way too far downwind to make it back to the grass landing area. As she continued to fly crosswind over open desert, she may have become confused with the wind direction and at about 50ft she made a radical turn downwind. She impacted the ground horizontal and still in the turn. She impacted at the same time as her canopy. She weighed no more than 125 pounds w/ gear and was jumping a sabre 150. Although she may have thought she had to avoid a fence, it was to far away to be a factor. She had made perhaps 45 jumps at this DZ in the last week. She died later at hospital.
Lessons: Inexperience may have played a big part in this incident. This DZ is particularly open, with few obstacles. However, the winds can be quite gusty and strong. Landing in a hard turn is simply not a viable option.


In the short, short time Ive been involved with skydiving, I could have told you that. You dont make a radical turn 50 feet off the ground under any circumstance, or the chute will dive. Ive known that, like they say, not a viable option.

Gusty winds are going to screw you up no matter what, especially dust devils. That means, you dont jump when the wind is gusty unless you really, really know what youre doing. I saw them do that last weekend, but you wouldnt catch me doing it, I dont care how many jumps I have. Not worth it.

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So you complain about hollywood cause you know how fake it is but dont know how dangerous real skydiving is. Which one do you want to believe?



We can go on and on with this. Do you know how many posts are on this subject? Its funny how everyone suddenly came over, and I dont think its because Im popular. Just wanted to bitch at someone about having to sleep over the DZ Friday night.

Its the subject "Sleeping Over". Didnt mean to imply anything by it, but you know what it sounds like, right? I mistakenly got everyones attention with that subject line.

To awnser your question, yea I know how dangerous it is, Im aware of it I think a lot moreso than you are imagining. I wasnt exactly calm when I jumped the first time, its like I never really wanted to do that.

Thats why Im a major question asker, because I like knowing things in extreme detail. You can take that for what its worth, I havent been at it long so what do I know, right?

As far as knowing what to to in extreme detail, surviving a bad situation is all about knowing what to do and when to do it, thats what I concern myself with. Not finding it out when it happens and giving a reason to panic.

Lets jump to surfing for a moment. You get curled under, held down, panic, try to fight it, run out of oxygen, breath in water, and drown.

Now youre skydiving. You open the main, you go into a spin, you wonder if you should cut away, or if its a few line twists, no need to cutaway. You look up, start spinning faster, you panic. What do you do? Youre spinning much faster, you cant find the cutaway, youre reaching for it but not finding it. Youre going to die!!! Your heartbeat races, youre panicing, you dont know what to do, the spin goes even faster and you lose conciousness....



Are you so sure about that? My attitude makes me want to pester the shit out of an instructor until I know what to do. If youre so smart, then why dont you tell me what to do in the above situaton. I dont want to hear from anyone else so send a private message. Do you cut away immediately? Maybe its just a few line twists, why take the chance? Or maybe its a line over. Maybe you dont have enough time to figure it out before you spin out of control.

If thats my attitude, Id take it over yours any day. I happen to think that youre in a lot worse danger than Ill ever be, but thats your business.

My hands are sweating furiously and Im going home. Its been real.

Later.

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