John4455 0 #1 June 18, 2003 For night jumps what canopy do/did you use and what was the wing loading? Just curious....... How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH 0 #2 June 18, 2003 My regular/only canopy... but then again I'm on a 1:1 wing load. There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear. PMS #227 (just like the TV show) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #3 June 18, 2003 my last night jump was on a crossfire 1 149 at 1.34 give or take. Havee done one on a saphire 138 at 1.44 give or take. both nice stand up lanings right in front of the cars parked in the landing area -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #4 June 18, 2003 QuoteMy regular/only canopy... but then again I'm on a 1:1 wing load. Same Here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rendezvous 0 #5 June 18, 2003 My regular canopy which is a Triathlon 175 loaded at 1:1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #6 June 18, 2003 I believe you would be better off jumping your regular canopy rather than switching to something you know less well--in the interest of some illusory safety factor. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulagc 0 #7 June 18, 2003 I really enjoy night jumps, but I usually use a different canopy. Your normal canopy with a higher wing loading is fine, IF you are going to land where the lights are and thus have some depth perception. However, several years ago I was on a night jump at the Richmond boogie and there was no moon that night. They were supposed to have lights in the landing area. But, we were the first group out and they hadn't gotten the lights there yet. I flared when my feet hit. Not good. One of the guys in our group broke his leg, and two of the others (me included) were limping the next day. From then on, I use my demo canopy -- a PD 253 -- which I could land nicely in half brakes in case I ever find myself in a no light situation again, whether it's due to a poor spot, changing wind conditions, or anything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robskydiv 0 #8 June 18, 2003 Falcon 265 wingloading was: 0.88Lbs./Sq.ft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedeisurf 0 #9 June 19, 2003 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #10 June 19, 2003 My regular canopy. Loaded 1.75 to one - 5000 ft ASL. It's not wise though. Margin for error and all that... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,109 #11 June 19, 2003 >I believe you would be better off jumping your regular canopy rather than > switching to something you know less well--in the interest of some illusory safety factor. That safety factor is far from illusory. A canopy that will not spin up on opening can be a big issue when you can't see what's going on. A canopy that will land you safely in bushes at half brakes is much better than one that you need to flare perfectly to survive the landing, since you may be landing off the DZ with no way to see anything. Ask yourself if you could land the canopy you have by going to half brakes at 50 feet and PLF'ing. If not, it's not a good choice for a night jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #12 June 19, 2003 My "BIG" Xaos @2.3/1. I always take the lowest opening altitude on the load. Note; our landing area is huge at Spaceland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mad47 0 #13 June 19, 2003 My regular Sabre loaded about 1.3. P.S: One of the major concerns that people express about night jumps is loosing a main in case of malfunction and cutaway. I recently talked to one of my buddies and he had this idea about having some kind of bug transmitting a radio signals hooked to main canopy. Such device should help to find a chopped main. It would be interesting to know what dz.com community think about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #14 June 20, 2003 My Stiletto loaded at 1.6. Strangely, I've landed it in 8 feet of corn every time. I wouldn't recomend to anyone to do their first jump on a new canopy at night. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RevJim 0 #15 June 20, 2003 QuoteQuoteAsk yourself if you could land the canopy you have by going to half brakes at 50 feet and PLF'ing. If not, it's not a good choice for a night jump. I totally agree with Bill here (now), but I think you should take it one step further. Ask yourself those same questions about your reserve also. I trusted my main, but didn't know my reserve's flight characteristics. Lesson learned. I would have no problem jumping my Sabre 150 or my old Sabre 135 at night, and even attempted it. After a hard pull, I ended up with a PD126R, which I have now figured out I loaded at about 1.6 to 1. Bad move. Very bad move. I lucked out, plain and simple. Seriously, when thinking about these jumps, take your entire system into consideration, not just your main.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloud9 0 #16 June 20, 2003 Quote Seriously, when thinking about these jumps, take your entire system into consideration, not just your main. The best I've heard. Words to live by on any jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dragon2 2 #17 June 24, 2003 QuoteQuote Seriously, when thinking about these jumps, take your entire system into consideration, not just your main. The best I've heard. Words to live by on any jump! So true. I´ve just recently started using weights (4 kg). I´m ok with that on a lightning 126 (it´s for WL purposes, obviously). If I want to jump with weights in freefall tho, I´d be ok with my spectre 135 or safire 135, but with my 128 sqft reserve... dunno. I´m already loading it at ~1.2..... The reserve in the CreW rig BTW is 175 sqft. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Tonto 1 #10 June 19, 2003 My regular canopy. Loaded 1.75 to one - 5000 ft ASL. It's not wise though. Margin for error and all that... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,109 #11 June 19, 2003 >I believe you would be better off jumping your regular canopy rather than > switching to something you know less well--in the interest of some illusory safety factor. That safety factor is far from illusory. A canopy that will not spin up on opening can be a big issue when you can't see what's going on. A canopy that will land you safely in bushes at half brakes is much better than one that you need to flare perfectly to survive the landing, since you may be landing off the DZ with no way to see anything. Ask yourself if you could land the canopy you have by going to half brakes at 50 feet and PLF'ing. If not, it's not a good choice for a night jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #12 June 19, 2003 My "BIG" Xaos @2.3/1. I always take the lowest opening altitude on the load. Note; our landing area is huge at Spaceland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #13 June 19, 2003 My regular Sabre loaded about 1.3. P.S: One of the major concerns that people express about night jumps is loosing a main in case of malfunction and cutaway. I recently talked to one of my buddies and he had this idea about having some kind of bug transmitting a radio signals hooked to main canopy. Such device should help to find a chopped main. It would be interesting to know what dz.com community think about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #14 June 20, 2003 My Stiletto loaded at 1.6. Strangely, I've landed it in 8 feet of corn every time. I wouldn't recomend to anyone to do their first jump on a new canopy at night. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #15 June 20, 2003 QuoteQuoteAsk yourself if you could land the canopy you have by going to half brakes at 50 feet and PLF'ing. If not, it's not a good choice for a night jump. I totally agree with Bill here (now), but I think you should take it one step further. Ask yourself those same questions about your reserve also. I trusted my main, but didn't know my reserve's flight characteristics. Lesson learned. I would have no problem jumping my Sabre 150 or my old Sabre 135 at night, and even attempted it. After a hard pull, I ended up with a PD126R, which I have now figured out I loaded at about 1.6 to 1. Bad move. Very bad move. I lucked out, plain and simple. Seriously, when thinking about these jumps, take your entire system into consideration, not just your main.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #16 June 20, 2003 Quote Seriously, when thinking about these jumps, take your entire system into consideration, not just your main. The best I've heard. Words to live by on any jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #17 June 24, 2003 QuoteQuote Seriously, when thinking about these jumps, take your entire system into consideration, not just your main. The best I've heard. Words to live by on any jump! So true. I´ve just recently started using weights (4 kg). I´m ok with that on a lightning 126 (it´s for WL purposes, obviously). If I want to jump with weights in freefall tho, I´d be ok with my spectre 135 or safire 135, but with my 128 sqft reserve... dunno. I´m already loading it at ~1.2..... The reserve in the CreW rig BTW is 175 sqft. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
