Reserve Pin Field Service required for WFFC

[PhillyKev 0]

Posted on their message board:

ALSO YOU WILL NEED DOCUMENTATION THAT YOUR RIG IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH SERVICE BULLETIN CW03-01.

I take that to mean that you have to have documentation that it's not affected by the service bulletin? Otherwise, how would they know?

[AndyMan 7]

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Otherwise, how would they know?

CW03-01 requires a note be made on your reserve packing card that it has been performed. In addition, the reserve pin is to be marked with a permanent marker, and a sticker is to be put on your reserve handle.

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[Hooknswoop 19]

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In addition, the reserve pin is to be marked with a permanent marker, and a sticker is to be put on your reserve handle.

From the SB, "Upon successful completion of the test, ripcord handle will be marked with CW03-01" "The packing data card must be annotated to show compliance with Capewell Service Bulletin CW03-01, Test 1" (or 2)

Equipment required includes an "Indelible felt marker"

I made some stickers that I will put on handles that pass the test, in conjunction with marking them. I don't think a marker will last very long on the handle.

Hook

[PhillyKev 0]

yeah, but my question is, if your rig is older than 2001, you don't need to have the test done. So what paperwork are you going to have to show at the WFFC. The only people that are going to get this tested are those affected. But how do you prove that yours isn't?

[PhreeZone 20]

Look on your ripcord. Its stamped there the DOM of that part. If its pre '02 you have nothing to worry about. Just show them that stamp.

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[PhillyKev 0]

Gotcha...my impression from other posts was that the DOM wasn't on all of them. Don't have my rig hear so couldn't check for myself.

[WFFC 1]

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I don't think a marker will last very long on the handle.

Try clear tape (packing tape?). It will still get beat up, but might make the sticker last a bit longer...

[Hooknswoop 19]

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Try clear tape (packing tape?). It will still get beat up, but might make the sticker last a bit longer...

Right, but the SB only says to write on the handle w/ a marker. I have been using a sticker covered with tape. The SB also doesn't address soft handles.

Hook

[NightJumper 0]

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Right, but the SB only says to write on the handle w/ a marker. I have been using a sticker covered with tape. The SB also doesn't address soft handles.

No, #11 states "Upon successful completion of the test, ripcord handle will be marked with CW03-01." It does not state how to mark the handle, just that it has to be marked as indicated.

I have been marking metal handles with an engraver and soft handles with a white marker.

[Hooknswoop 19]

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No, #11 states "Upon successful completion of the test, ripcord handle will be marked with CW03-01." It does not state how to mark the handle, just that it has to be marked as indicated.

Right, but in required equipment it lists an indelible marker. A bit of an assumtion on my part.

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I have been marking metal handles with an engraver and soft handles with a white marker.

I like the engraving idea.

Hook

[NightJumper 0]

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Right, but in required equipment it lists an indelible marker. A bit of an assumtion on my part.

The marker is to mark the pin as you test each side to make sure that all sides are tested and to avoid retesting. Read #7 in the procedures.

[Hooknswoop 19]

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The marker is to mark the pin as you test each side to make sure that all sides are tested and to avoid retesting. Read #7 in the procedures.

You are right.

So then it doesn't specify how to mark any handle and it is left up to the rigger to decide how. In that case, I like your engraving idea.

Thanks,

Hook

[betzilla 56]

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my question is, if your rig is older than 2001, you don't need to have the test done. So what paperwork are you going to have to show at the WFFC. The only people that are going to get this tested are those affected. But how do you prove that yours isn't?

At my DZ, we're marking the handles that aren't affected as "CW03-01 does not apply."

[rhino 0]

Damnit.. I just bought my wings and have to get it checked...

[Samurai136 0]

The Sunpath soft handles have a white tag w/ their part number. There is enough blank space to document compliance with Capwell's service bulletin.

Ken

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Ken

[masterrigger1 2]

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The Sunpath soft handles have a white tag w/ their part number. There is enough blank space to document compliance with Capwell's service bulletin.

Ken

Please read the service bulletin carefully! The applicable ripcord pins are all angled pins; not the newer straight pins used by Sun Path Products. I have yet to see an oringinal Sun Path soft ripcord with an angled pin. Although it is possible that a "generic" ripcord could have been installed on a newer rig after a cutaway.

Masterrigger1

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[tombuch 0]

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The Sunpath soft handles have a white tag w/ their part number. There is enough blank space to document compliance with Capwell's service bulletin.

Ken

Please read the service bulletin carefully! The applicable ripcord pins are all angled pins; not the newer straight pins used by Sun Path Products. I have yet to see an oringinal Sun Path soft ripcord with an angled pin. Although it is possible that a "generic" ripcord could have been installed on a newer rig after a cutaway.

Masterrigger1

I believe you may be incorrect. The problem seems to be related to brittle steel and there is no known cause. Capewell can not isolate the problem to a specific batch of pins, style of pin, or manufacturing defect.

If you look at the PSB, on page 2 you will see both straight and angled pins depicted. You will not see a pin with blades like many used on Sun Path Javelins. I called Sun Path last Thursday and they too were confused, so they checked with Capewell. The word I received from Sun Path last Thursday, July 17, was to check all of their pins that are in the date range. This was specified again in a release from Sunpath on July 17, 2003.

If there is any question, the rigger should call the manufacturer (Sun Path, Relative Workshop, Jump Shack, whatever). All the manufacturers are working on this issue and can either answer your questions, or get you answers.

My hope is that a single source of information will be developed on the web by a reputable group (PIA, USPA, Capewell) and all these questions will be answered before the FAA steps in and issues an AD.

Tom Buchanan
Sr. Parachute Rigger
S&TA, The Ranch

Tom Buchanan
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy

[Hooknswoop 19]

Sun Path has a statement on their web page indicating that their pins need to be tested.

I tested a few Sun Path ripcord pins last night and one failed Test 1, it bent.

Hook

[masterrigger1 2]

I believe you may be incorrect. The problem seems to be related to brittle steel and there is no known cause. Capewell can not isolate the problem to a specific batch of pins, style of pin, or manufacturing defect.

If you look at the PSB, on page 2 you will see both straight and angled pins depicted. You will not see a pin with blades like many used on Sun Path Javelins. I called Sun Path last Thursday and they too were confused, so they checked with Capewell. The word I received from Sun Path last Thursday, July 17, was to check all of their pins that are in the date range. This was specified again in a release from Sunpath on July 17, 2003.


Tom Buchanan
Sr. Parachute Rigger
S&TA, The Ranch

[kallend 2,146]

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The Sunpath soft handles have a white tag w/ their part number. There is enough blank space to document compliance with Capwell's service bulletin.

Ken

Please read the service bulletin carefully! The applicable ripcord pins are all angled pins; not the newer straight pins used by Sun Path Products. I have yet to see an oringinal Sun Path soft ripcord with an angled pin. Although it is possible that a "generic" ripcord could have been installed on a newer rig after a cutaway.

Masterrigger1

I believe you may be incorrect. The problem seems to be related to brittle steel and there is no known cause. Capewell can not isolate the problem to a specific batch of pins, style of pin, or manufacturing defect.

Surely they have a metallurgist on staff or available. I teach metallurgical engineering (including failure analysis) and I would be willing to do a metallurgical analysis if they don't have someone.

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[tombuch 0]

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Surely they have a metallurgist on staff or available. I teach metallurgical engineering (including failure analysis) and I would be willing to do a metallurgical analysis if they don't have someone.

According to my conversations with Capewell, they have received ONE pin back and have had testing done by an outside lab. There was no metallurgical problem identified with the broken pin.

-Tom Buchanan

Tom Buchanan
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy

[SkyPsycho 0]

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my question is, if your rig is older than 2001, you don't need to have the test done. So what paperwork are you going to have to show at the WFFC. The only people that are going to get this tested are those affected. But how do you prove that yours isn't?

At my DZ, we're marking the handles that aren't affected as "CW03-01 does not apply."

any answer? what will be done with pre 01 rigs and ripcords? im bringing 3 rigs and mine are all pre 01, and id prefer since mine do not apply, id rather them not be marked up or engraved. besides, if everyones rig is inspected, the obvious wffc 2003 sticker will be put on the handle, showing it was checked and passed.........eh?

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[mattacl 0]

We tested all rigs even outside of the range / the field test only takes a few minutes and its good peace of mind / we also did the engraving on metal handles.

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[WFFC 1]

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any answer?

The WFFC answer has been on the front page of Freefall.com since Saturday morning. The Gear Check staff will be checking handles/reserve cards to make sure that you are in compliance. If your rig does not fall into this category, it will be in compliance without any notations on the packing data card.

[PhillyKev 0]

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The Gear Check staff will be checking handles/reserve cards to make sure that you are in compliance. If your rig does not fall into this category, it will be in compliance without any notations on the packing data card.

Ok, but my question is, how are they going to confirm that you DO NOT fall into the category? My understanding is that there's no way to visibly tell when a pin was manufactured.