jejejelle 0 #1 August 5, 2003 hiya all 2 weeks ago I had my first reserve ride after a nice 2 way rw jump.. pulled at 3000 and canopy seemed to open normally , but suddenly it starts twisting , finally I end up with twisted risers in front of my eyes and an spiraling canopy ( sabre 170 ) back on the ground it felt like I did everything right , and I sort of still do ( must have cuz im still alive ) but after loads of re thinking the thing there are two things that are confusing me.. first: of course the thought of could I have kicked the twist out and land my main second: I did not use the reserve procedure I was taught ( two hands on one handle ) as soon as it twisted I grabbed both handles tried to pull red , couldnt because of too much tension on the 3ring system I guess , grabbed it with two hands and pulled , a split second later i pulled silver i think the could i`ve kicked it out thinking is a normal mind thing , but im a little confused about the ,not doing the reserve procedure i was drilled to do. i always practise my two handed version before every ride up , and still when needed i do or at least did a one handed... should i stick with the original drilled two handed procedure or go for the single handed ? of course this is something to ask to my instructors in holland , but i really like yours view on this blue skies! jelle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #2 August 5, 2003 Did you need 2 hands to cutaway because of the cutaway force needed, or is it possible you did not 'peel' the cutaway pillow off of the velcro?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jejejelle 0 #3 August 5, 2003 im 100% sure it wasnt because of the velcro , the pull with one hand made the release ting move for at least 10 cm down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #4 August 6, 2003 Quotefinally I end up with twisted risers in front of my eyes and an spiraling canopy ( sabre 170 ) Fear not, you did the right thing! You made it down from what sounds like a very bad canopy. This is the most important thing. Trained in Canada, we use the 'one hand on each' technique. HOWEVER, if you search the forums for 'spinning mal' or 'hard housings' you will find that many people have experienced a hard cutaway like you describe because the risers are too twisted and the cutaway handle may be impossible to pull with the normal amount of force. You recognized this fact and went to a 2 handed pull...well done!! Your instructors will offer you the best advice - especially those who may have seen the spinning Sabre - but any time you are spiraling AND in line twists you are decending too fast and out of control and this is EXACTLY one reason to use your reserve!! Now get back airborne knowing you know what to do in an emergency and have proven it to yourself and others... -Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #5 August 6, 2003 I don't think there are many out there who would say that by cutting away you did the wrong thing. An interesting thread was started on just this topic a while back. Read about What not to Do (How the Aggie Almost Died) You didn't think you could control it. You chopped. Good decision. 'Nuff said. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #6 August 6, 2003 well, there is a product out there that helps with the tension problem. somebody make "hard sheithing" or like a "conduit" that slips in your risers, and then the plastic cut away lines go inside. the idea is to not let the twisted risers squeeze the cutaway lines. anybody out there more educated on this. might be a good idea for you... ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBKid 0 #7 August 6, 2003 Just do a search for riser inserts, although if the sabre 2 was relatively new I would have thought they would be installed already. Good job though! You saved your life, that's the most important thing. Nick --------------------------- "I've pierced my foot on a spike!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #8 August 6, 2003 QuoteJust do a search for riser inserts, although if the sabre 2 was relatively new I would have thought they would be installed already. ummm riser inserts come with the rig, not the canopy...-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #9 August 6, 2003 Hey Jelle, Didn't know you had a reserve ride... Eh, BEER!!! Not seen you for a while.... Anyway, don't know why you went to both handles, could you see them both with the risers in front of you? I might've done the same if I couldn't , too, to be sure to keep track of the silver handle... Anyway, if I were you I'd stick to the first method I learned, and ask for an extra ' harnastest'. And talk to the instructors of course. But since I'm not you, don't listen to me just go to the instructors ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jejejelle 0 #10 August 6, 2003 heeej sas is this the first time you missed someones reserve ride ? have been to empuria and soulac for a week but im back now nothing beats an cessna caravan it was idd impossible to see my handles , and it took some time to locate silver , and i didnt pulled before i found silver... mhhss sounds very logical to me now , why i didnt do the two handed version thx saskia :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Margusja 0 #11 August 7, 2003 If I did my first cutaway on z-po 130 (wingload 1.73) reason-linetwist, I made it one hand also I practis it two hand. First thing was that I dont want lose my handles :) Reg, Margusja Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
