SniperCJ 0 #1 August 17, 2003 ...at 4000ft after filming a tandem deployment. Pitched out and started spinning on my back. Looked up and saw a nice little lineover closing off the left 4' of my canopy. Dicked around with it briefly before deciding things just wernt going my way and look-right-grab, look-left-grab, strip-right-sweep, strip left sweep...See ya! Couple seconds later im under a nice white PD143R. Stand up landing in the peas and jump 737 goes into the books as a success. Yaa Haw! JC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #2 August 17, 2003 How did your reserve fly? Just asking, because I've got the same, and I haven't flown it yet. . Yes everyone will tell me to demo, but demos don't exist outside of the States...-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robskydiv 0 #3 August 17, 2003 Nice deployment altitude. Good decision making. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #4 August 17, 2003 Quote...look-right-grab, look-left-grab, strip-right-sweep, strip left sweep...See ya!" Ok when you were doing the cutaway, were you actually saying that in your head? I mean, I know what to do, but instead of saying it, I just produce the idea which is a lot faster...they kept telling me to say it out loud during the two handle training and I was like...there is no way I'm going to wait to say all that crap in the air, so why do it on the ground??? I'm just a little curious.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Designer 0 #5 August 17, 2003 Cool.It,s always great when things as trained! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SniperCJ 0 #6 August 18, 2003 QuoteHow did your reserve fly? It flew good. I had to ride the risers a bit to make it back to the peas (to finish the tandem video), so I didnt get to fly it much, but it was good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SniperCJ 0 #7 August 18, 2003 QuoteOk when you were doing the cutaway, were you actually saying that in your head? No, truth be told,,,it was way faster than that. Like you said,,,produce the idea and act. More like "simultaneous grab,,sweep right. sweep left" Its done that way on the ground to build that muscle memory, since actual building of that muscle memory would be real costly at $50 a repack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trumpetfish 0 #8 August 18, 2003 this is no doubt a silly question but how come you were spinning on your back after deployment? As I imagine the situation, wouldn't you either be belly down spinning or 'under canopy' and spinning ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nightjumps 1 #9 August 18, 2003 Quote..at 4000ft after filming a tandem deployment. Pitched out and started spinning on my back. Looked up and saw a nice little lineover closing off the left 4' of my canopy. Dicked around with it briefly before deciding things just wernt going my way and look-right-grab, look-left-grab, strip-right-sweep, strip left sweep...See ya! Couple seconds later im under a nice white PD143R. Stand up landing in the peas and jump 737 goes into the books as a success. Interestingly enough... I was doing a tandem the other day and when I looked down saw a guy with what appeared to be a lineover. I watched him chop it. The student and I flew over it so I could "mark" where the main was. I did get to show the student the how the cutaway results in a reserve and that the skydiver was over "there" under his reserve. Must be nice to get a chopper to go find your main... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites greenemachine 0 #10 August 18, 2003 "dicked around with it"... im new to the sport so bare with me on this...you were actually trying to clear the mal first? thought with that type you just go for silver right away?If a Blonde throws a pin at you RUN, shes got a hand grenade in her mouth! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #11 August 18, 2003 Sometimes you can clear a lineover by going into deep brakes on a canopy. If you're lucky, the brake line will slide off of the top of the canopy. My personal rule in case of a lineover is to try to clear it once. If the canopy is wildly unstable then I will chop. If it is flying somewhat stable (by adding opposite toggle, etc...) and I have the altitude and a near place to land, I will try to cut the brake line with my hook knife and land with rear risers.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SniperCJ 0 #12 August 18, 2003 Quote"dicked around with it"... im new to the sport so bare with me on this...you were actually trying to clear the mal first? thought with that type you just go for silver right away? Not a bad question at all. Yes, I tried to clear it for a bit (when I say a bit, I mean, "not long at all"). A couple of point: - a lineover isnt an automatic cutaway. They can be cleared in some circumstances by pumping the risers. Looking back at the video, I really think I could have cleared it, however I'm not going to second guess myself on this one. - This wasnt my first rodeo. With 2 previous cutaway in the books, I felt comfortable working with it. I had altitude and a mostly inflated canopy that wasnt spinning violently. Trumpetfish: When I said spinning on my back after deployment, I did mean "under canopy and spinning". Looking at the video I wasnt in a really violent spin on my back, mighta just felt that way... Bigun: It was good working with you this weekend! SniperJohn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sducoach 0 #13 August 19, 2003 Geeze Bigun........... What you'll do to entertain your passengers! Get the strong done? Be safe and see ya. Blues, J.E.James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #14 August 19, 2003 Quote"dicked around with it"... im new to the sport so bare with me on this...you were actually trying to clear the mal first? thought with that type you just go for silver right away? Go for silver?? We are talking a partial malfunction here, so no, you would absolutely not "go straight for silver"; you would positively first cutaway the malfunctioned main. That said, there are instances, especially under larger canopies, where it's totally possible to clear a lineover. It is not, however, generally possible to un-fuck a sub-100 square foot elliptical fast enough to keep it from spinning completely up on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NoShitThereIWas 0 #15 August 31, 2003 So your Diablo spun up on you? Nice job on the EPs ... I'm glad to hear everything worked out and went smoothly for you. Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires." Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #16 August 31, 2003 It flew good. I had to ride the risers a bit to make it back to the peas (to finish the tandem video), so I didnt get to fly it much, but it was good. So didja get the chop/reserve on video ? Your student gets a really exciting bonus on his copy then, "this is the cameraman, he had to use his reserve". Way cool. And congrats on preserving yourself. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #5 August 17, 2003 Cool.It,s always great when things as trained! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #6 August 18, 2003 QuoteHow did your reserve fly? It flew good. I had to ride the risers a bit to make it back to the peas (to finish the tandem video), so I didnt get to fly it much, but it was good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #7 August 18, 2003 QuoteOk when you were doing the cutaway, were you actually saying that in your head? No, truth be told,,,it was way faster than that. Like you said,,,produce the idea and act. More like "simultaneous grab,,sweep right. sweep left" Its done that way on the ground to build that muscle memory, since actual building of that muscle memory would be real costly at $50 a repack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trumpetfish 0 #8 August 18, 2003 this is no doubt a silly question but how come you were spinning on your back after deployment? As I imagine the situation, wouldn't you either be belly down spinning or 'under canopy' and spinning ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #9 August 18, 2003 Quote..at 4000ft after filming a tandem deployment. Pitched out and started spinning on my back. Looked up and saw a nice little lineover closing off the left 4' of my canopy. Dicked around with it briefly before deciding things just wernt going my way and look-right-grab, look-left-grab, strip-right-sweep, strip left sweep...See ya! Couple seconds later im under a nice white PD143R. Stand up landing in the peas and jump 737 goes into the books as a success. Interestingly enough... I was doing a tandem the other day and when I looked down saw a guy with what appeared to be a lineover. I watched him chop it. The student and I flew over it so I could "mark" where the main was. I did get to show the student the how the cutaway results in a reserve and that the skydiver was over "there" under his reserve. Must be nice to get a chopper to go find your main... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenemachine 0 #10 August 18, 2003 "dicked around with it"... im new to the sport so bare with me on this...you were actually trying to clear the mal first? thought with that type you just go for silver right away?If a Blonde throws a pin at you RUN, shes got a hand grenade in her mouth! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #11 August 18, 2003 Sometimes you can clear a lineover by going into deep brakes on a canopy. If you're lucky, the brake line will slide off of the top of the canopy. My personal rule in case of a lineover is to try to clear it once. If the canopy is wildly unstable then I will chop. If it is flying somewhat stable (by adding opposite toggle, etc...) and I have the altitude and a near place to land, I will try to cut the brake line with my hook knife and land with rear risers.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #12 August 18, 2003 Quote"dicked around with it"... im new to the sport so bare with me on this...you were actually trying to clear the mal first? thought with that type you just go for silver right away? Not a bad question at all. Yes, I tried to clear it for a bit (when I say a bit, I mean, "not long at all"). A couple of point: - a lineover isnt an automatic cutaway. They can be cleared in some circumstances by pumping the risers. Looking back at the video, I really think I could have cleared it, however I'm not going to second guess myself on this one. - This wasnt my first rodeo. With 2 previous cutaway in the books, I felt comfortable working with it. I had altitude and a mostly inflated canopy that wasnt spinning violently. Trumpetfish: When I said spinning on my back after deployment, I did mean "under canopy and spinning". Looking at the video I wasnt in a really violent spin on my back, mighta just felt that way... Bigun: It was good working with you this weekend! SniperJohn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sducoach 0 #13 August 19, 2003 Geeze Bigun........... What you'll do to entertain your passengers! Get the strong done? Be safe and see ya. Blues, J.E.James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #14 August 19, 2003 Quote"dicked around with it"... im new to the sport so bare with me on this...you were actually trying to clear the mal first? thought with that type you just go for silver right away? Go for silver?? We are talking a partial malfunction here, so no, you would absolutely not "go straight for silver"; you would positively first cutaway the malfunctioned main. That said, there are instances, especially under larger canopies, where it's totally possible to clear a lineover. It is not, however, generally possible to un-fuck a sub-100 square foot elliptical fast enough to keep it from spinning completely up on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoShitThereIWas 0 #15 August 31, 2003 So your Diablo spun up on you? Nice job on the EPs ... I'm glad to hear everything worked out and went smoothly for you. Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires." Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #16 August 31, 2003 It flew good. I had to ride the risers a bit to make it back to the peas (to finish the tandem video), so I didnt get to fly it much, but it was good. So didja get the chop/reserve on video ? Your student gets a really exciting bonus on his copy then, "this is the cameraman, he had to use his reserve". Way cool. And congrats on preserving yourself. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
