FrogNog 1 #1 October 22, 2003 Disclaimer: I am not going to play or jump with any smoke devices any time soon. I just thought about them and realized I had a big question. (And I didn't see an immediate searchable answer in this forum.) Question: How is safety of smoke devices inside the airplane achieved? It seems to me that in the plane, if a smoke device activated it could cause/contribute to the worst kind of accident. I don't know details about activating smoke devices, but if they're easy to activate as you go out the door (or on the hill), it seems like there would be a nonzero risk of accidental activation similar to clearing a pin in the confines of the plane. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #2 October 22, 2003 >>nonzero risk of accidental activation << Of course. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 October 22, 2003 >How is safety of smoke devices inside the airplane achieved? 1. Tape the pin down so it can't be accidentally activated. 2. If you are going to use an extension, don't attach the extension until just before exit. 3. Make sure the jumpers with smoke are near the door so they can hang a foot if one goes off prematurely. 4. Do not fire them off until the canister is outside the plane. You can do it in freefall, or just get your foot out the door (either by sitting on the lip or by floating.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #4 October 23, 2003 Man, I love skydiving. The more I learn about it and the different stuff you can do, the more I learn about danger / potential danger. So, a followup question for further readers: does anyone / do groups jump smoke out of a C-182 or a similar sardine tin? "near the door" becomes more sketchy in that case. For safety, I can see the pilot requiring you stow your smoke device on the step before entering the plane and put it back on outside. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 October 23, 2003 >does anyone / do groups jump smoke out of a C-182 or a similar sardine tin? Done that a few times. On a "standard" C182, have the guy with smoke be in JM position; if you want two jumpers to have smoke, have him and the guy in student position. Guy in JM position has it on his right foot, other guy on his left foot. If there's a premature firing you can open the door and get that foot out. On exit, the "JM" puts one foot out, fires the canister, and gets out and hangs (or keeps one foot on.) "Student" puts left foot out on the step, fires his smoke, then climbs out the rest of the way. >For safety, I can see the pilot requiring you stow your smoke device >on the step before entering the plane and put it back on outside. I would think you'd risk dropping the thing - and that seems like it would be a danger to people on the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #6 October 23, 2003 >>For safety, I can see the pilot requiring you stow your smoke device >>on the step before entering the plane and put it back on outside. >I would think you'd risk dropping the thing - and that seems like it would be a danger to people on the ground. I wasn't serious. I meant it in the same vein as a pilot saying "Smoke canisters? Well, I hope you brought enough for everyone!" -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 October 23, 2003 ... what billvon said, plus get some instruction from an experienced demo jumper: Golden Knight, Leap Frog, Sky Hawk, Red Devil, Falcon, Jim Wallace, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #8 October 24, 2003 When I saw the title I thought it was about having a crafty fag on the way to altitude.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
