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frogslapper

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Ok, can you compare it to a Tri? I've jumped Spectres, Sabres and Stillettos of various sizes, and can definately agree with what you wrote. I've only put a few jumps on a Tri (3 or 4 if I remember correctly) and the one thing I remember (it was a couple years ago) is that the flare was harder to nail then under a Sabre.
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But if the guy was marginal with canopies I would suggest the Specter.



Hmmm ... I find myself agreeing with Ron here (go figure). In my limited experience, I would think that someone with marginal skills would be better off with a Spectre. Someone with intermediate skills would benefit from a Sabre(2) and someone needs more advanced skills to survive under a Stiletto. Of course an advance canopy pilot will do well under any one of these canopies.


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and the one thing I remember (it was a couple years ago) is that the flare was harder to nail then under a Sabre.



This is exactly what I meant. There is a power band on a seven cell that really works. Learning that energy range is a priceless asset as far as I am concerned. Especially when you end up under a reserve.

Being able to quickly pinpoint that energy band under a smaller seven cell has given me even better feel under a hp nine cell.

I don't know if I am getting what I mean agross effectively or not.. I'll have to think about it.

Rhino

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I don't know if I am getting what I mean agross effectively or not.. I'll have to think about it.



I'm probably misunderstanding what you're trying to say, since I'm never wrong...wait, yeah I am, I'm wrong all the time. B|

When I get back from class I'll go back and reread what was wrote to see if I'm on the same page as you, here.
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I find myself agreeing with Ron here (go figure). In my limited experience, I would think that someone with marginal skills would be better off with a Spectre. Someone with intermediate skills would benefit from a Sabre(2) and someone needs more advanced skills to survive under a Stiletto. Of course an advance canopy pilot will do well under any one of these canopies.



I am talking a FLAT out beginner. Someone just off student status wanting a first canopy..

I would recommend a Triathlon. It is in no way elliptical and it is extremely stable and predictable in all aspects of flight.

The Triathlon at 1.2 was an AMAZINGLY versatile canopy.

Stay with a square seven cell for the 1st where a beginner is concerned I say.

Rhino

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I am talking a FLAT out beginner. Someone just off student status wanting a first canopy..

I would recommend a Triathlon. It is in no way elliptical and it is extremely stable and predictable in all aspects of flight.

The Triathlon at 1.2 was an AMAZINGLY versatile canopy.

Stay with a square seven cell for the 1st where a beginner is concerned I say.

Rhino



No argument here. :P The first canopy I bought was a Triathlon. I wanted a Spectre, but the price was right with the Tri. And now I've progressed through to nine cell Sabre2s and sometime in the not too distant future I will start flying a Crossfire2. :$


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#1. How do you do a hook turn?
Hook turn crudely put is initiating a toggle or front riser turn that takes you through a 90 degree turn or some multiple of it. Since the canopy dives in a turn it builds up quite a bit of speed before it begins to flaten out. Done high up, it's quite docile if you stick to less than 360 rotations at a time and are well aware of your air space and other canopies in it. You will loose a lot of altitude though. Done close to the ground, at your experience level IT WILL MOST DEFINITELY KILL you, and that is being modest about it. Even out of curiosity, do not try it close to the ground.

#2. How do you do a hook turn without killing yourself?
Once you've accumulated hundreds of jumps understanding how canopies fly, what they do and how to handle them in different conditions ( rear risers, front risers, down wind, off landings etc ), you go talk to some very experienced, and mature swoopers at your DZ and they will guide you through the rest.

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That's an excellent and comprehensive list. People might disagree, but they'd have to based on facts, and not impressions.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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