Aromain 0 #1 September 27, 2003 I just read this months Readers Digest and there was an article called "Falling" regarding an accident in CT in May of last year. It spoke of a "funnel" that created the means to take victim; an instructor with thousands of jumps. Is this a real term...can someone explain more about this? The instructor had a hard time getting a student on their belly and died saving this woman's life partly due to this "funnel". By the time she was stable he didn't have enough time to get a good canopy.------------------------------------------------ "Matter fact go and get your chrome, cause I'd rather be, broke thogether, then rich alone." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #2 September 28, 2003 I've been jumping 30 years, and I have NEVER seen a newpaper article (or TV spot) which was worth listening to when an accident was involved. They are only useful for informing you that an accident happened. Speculating on what they really mean is fruitless. A funnel is a well known term in RW. check with your instructors for the definition. My short version: like getting flushed down a toilet with your friends. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #3 September 28, 2003 A look through the glossary might be helpful. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raefordite 0 #4 September 29, 2003 I just read the article. The student became unstable at pull time, tumbling through the air. One Instructor released at 1,100 ft and deployed, per the article. The second Instructor, Bonadies remained and pulled the student's main ripcord as the student's CYPRES fired the reserve. The second Instructor died on impact, no time to deploy his own canopy. Again, per the article. I'm sure he was a wonderful person. Too bad he didn't have a CYPRES. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 September 29, 2003 Quote I'm sure he was a wonderful person. Too bad he didn't have a CYPRES. Or follow widely accepted SOP's in this situation. Had both I's pulled at 2000ft (AFF cut-off) they would have been fine, and the Cypress would have fired the student's reserve. (as it later did.) The Instructor lost altitude awareness. Worse - in activating the student's main canopy, the Instructor risked a main reserve entanglement for the student. He's been given medals for his conduct. Had he done the same and survived at my DZ, I'd have fired him. (But then I've always been a little outspoken on issues like this.) tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #6 September 29, 2003 QuoteOr follow widely accepted SOP's in this situation. Had both I's pulled at 2000ft (AFF cut-off) they would have been fine, and the Cypress would have fired the student's reserve. (as it later did.) The Instructor lost altitude awareness. Worse - in activating the student's main canopy, the Instructor risked a main reserve entanglement for the student. He's been given medals for his conduct. Had he done the same and survived at my DZ, I'd have fired him. (But then I've always been a little outspoken on issues like this.) t Unfortunately, I agree with Tonto. Yes, he did what is widely considered a heroic thing in sticking with the student and pulling the main. However, he also complicated the problem by giving the student a 2-out situation. He 'should' have pulled at 2K. Its a tough situation and one that I hope, once I get an AFF rating, I never have to face. JC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
