falxori 0 #1 September 25, 2003 anyone know anything of the aerokart windtunnel in paris? in general, i know that wind tunnels are good practice and worth the extra $$ (70 euros per a coached session in this case) i'm going with 2 friends, so it turns out a little more than a jump. but i have never tried it, and i don't know much about that specific one in paris... O should i ? http://www.aerokart.com/uk/wind_tunnel.htm "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #2 September 25, 2003 I didn't go, but several friends did. If you go for RW, anytime, if it's for FF, special dates for that. It seems to be great, some are going back for 30 minutes in the tunnel---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #3 September 25, 2003 how long is each session ? if i remember right, its 65 euro+6 for a coach , for 2.5 minutes. don't know for what, but since i'll be in Paris for only one day, i'll see what they have O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #4 September 25, 2003 I was planning to go later this autum. Funny, the website doesnt say how long a session is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #5 September 25, 2003 It's only for TEAMS or a guy or 2 can go?, maybe next year I'll be traveling to Europe and I have a friend there which I would like to invite to come with me to the tunnel.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #6 September 25, 2003 found another thread about it : http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=515150#515150 its 65 euro for 2.5 minutes (for the group). and Ivan, i think you can go alone too (as long as you're paying...) expensive O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #7 September 25, 2003 session is normally 2.5 min... but you can split like if you're 2 do half half...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #8 September 25, 2003 Quoteits 65 euro for 2.5 minutes DAMN!!!! THAT'S EXPENSIVE!!! __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #9 September 25, 2003 QuoteDAMN!!!! THAT'S EXPENSIVE ok, update... we emailed them asking to book 3 sessions for 3 people as a group. they replied with "sure, you are booked for 3 hours" as soon as we stopped laughing (or crying ) we asked again... bottom line: you first have to go on a session alone with a coach, to see that you are able to fly. they wont allow us to go up for a 3-way (not experienced enough) we might go and just do 1-2 sessions to check it out but i don't see myself spending 600 euros for 30 minutes of wind tunnel ... are all wind tunnels that expensive? O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spike 0 #10 September 26, 2003 Here's my calc's comparing Aerokart with Skyventure Orlando. Aerokart: €20 Membership fee €48 Discounted session fee (2.5 min sessions) €6 Coaching fee €20 + (€48 + €6)*24 = €1316 Or €1316 / 1.39 = GBP£946 Skyventure with Sebastian XL Coaching (see here) US$825 1 hour (additional time over 1st hour= $775) Or US$825 / 1.61 = GBP£512 So yes Aerokart is way expensive. Ok I haven't factored in the cost of flights to Orlando, but I'd still have ferry costs for me to get to Paris. Plus at Orlando you get coaching from Sebastian XL the British National Champions. Don't know who does the coaching at Paris (wonder if its the French 4 way team?). And at Skyventure they have awesome digital video debriefing facilities, which I don't think they have at Paris. My vote goes Orlando, till Skyventure UK is in place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #11 September 26, 2003 With the new UK wind tunnel, would Seb XL move back to the UK and train here? Would be handy for coaching etc. Would they be renamed to Milton Keanes XL?? Does quite have the same ring :) UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trumpetfish 0 #12 September 26, 2003 fyi..i heard the cost of the UK tunnel will be £10 per minute roughly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #13 September 26, 2003 Any ideas on how its gonna run? Ive heard the other skyventure one runs 24/7 at about $10 (or more) per minute and ANYONE can use the wind tunnel? Is this missinformation? UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spike 0 #14 October 1, 2003 Who knows what XL would do? But agreed, it would be very helpfull. John is based in the UK, so its possible that he'd be able to work as a UK based branch of XL coaching. The guys own property/have a life in the USA. Plus its not just tunnel time. To be competitive you have to nail the exits and that means jumping from real planes. That means you need lots of good weather, in the UK? and a fast turnaround, in the UK? Any UK DZO's offering to donate 800+ jumps for free? The Orlando operation does run almost 24/7 with just a little downtime for maintenance and yes anyone can walk in off the street and go fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #15 October 1, 2003 Allowing anyone off the street to fly will be the only way to make a wind tunnel ecconomical in the UK - there simply arent enough skydivers here to run the thing 24/7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #16 October 1, 2003 Apparently they've have alot of interest from the non-skydiving comunity. I think red letter days (or something similar) have booked 700 hrs or soemthing already. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
