firstime 0 #1 November 5, 2003 Can anyone out there tell me as to the noise level in freefall in decibles, I am hard of hearing and trying to get an audible to fit my needs. Thanks HUH.What did he say?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallen 0 #2 November 5, 2003 I can't speak to the exact decibles in freefall but I can tell you not to be surprised that, no matter which audible that you choose, you probably will not hear it on the first couple of jumps that you use it. It's almost as if you must tune yourself into it, like to teach yourself to listen for it. At least, that's what I found. Good Luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #3 November 5, 2003 Thats what I dont want, What I want is smack in forehead if I have a brain fart. I am new (53 jumps) and looking at my alti is second nature therefore the audible I want as a back up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffD 0 #4 November 5, 2003 well I would guess its somewhere around 80-90 decibels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallen 0 #5 November 5, 2003 I totally understand your concern and I am just representative of my own experience and the experience of coaching my wife through AFF and 160 jumps, but we both experienced the same thing. It's the sensory overload thing. If you condition yourself to pull at a visual stimuli, (altimeter) we found that you must actively listen for the audible in the first few jumps to even hear it. After you hear it a couple of times, you begin to associate it with "time to track away (or pull)" and soon it becomes automatic. But you gotta remember that audibles, like visual altimeters, are not infalible. You also need to condition yourself to timing and the 'ground picture" to make sure that you pull on time. That's just my opinion. Can anyone else help us here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #6 November 5, 2003 you are 100% right with that reply, and comes with numbers, you have the words of good wisdom and thats what I enjoy in this forum. I have been told that an audible for a low time jumper is not a good thing but the majority says it's a great BACKUP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nullified 0 #7 November 5, 2003 QuoteI can't speak to the exact decibles in freefall but I can tell you not to be surprised that, no matter which audible that you choose, you probably will not hear it on the first couple of jumps that you use it. It's almost as if you must tune yourself into it, like to teach yourself to listen for it. At least, that's what I found. Good Luck. If you're wearing a closed face helmet, you'd have to be REALLY hard of hearing to not hear an audible. My first few jumps with one, I found it quite startling. Stay safe, Mike If you're gonna' be stupid, well, then you're most likely stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripper0289 0 #8 November 5, 2003 After my first AFF jump, all of six jumps ago, I bought a full face. With the helmet on and the shield down, the noise level fall drastically. I haven't filled the slot on my ST-1(yet), but its likely to be no problem hearing it when I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #9 November 5, 2003 > Can anyone out there tell me as to the noise level in > freefall in decibles ... Do you have a motorcycle? Does it go fast? I have gotten so used to wind noise commuting at 75 mph on the freeway on a no-windshield motorcycle that freefall seems silent to me. Something about the russling noise makes my brain tune it out. Under canopy the flapping slider is loud, though - go figure. No, that's no direct use to you in deciding what audible you want, but it's a hint: freefall is about as loud as 120mph wind noise on a motorcycle. Maybe a little quieter because there's no engine or sirens. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #10 November 5, 2003 I wear the OSHA approved Moldex 6800 foam ear plugs to cut-down on the ambient noise, and I have no problem hearing the ProTrack alerts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #11 November 5, 2003 QuoteCan anyone out there tell me as to the noise level in freefall in deciblesThis depends greatly on what type of helmet you have (protec vs. full face vs freefly) and how tightly it fits over your head. You might start with wind noise on the order of 90-100dB, a protec might give you a few dB of attenuation, where as a tight fitting full-face or freefly helmet could give you upwards of 30dB of attenuation. At that noise level, an audible should definitely be able to "wake you up" Try asking around your dropzone if you can jump someone's to test it out before you buy one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #12 November 5, 2003 L&B products (protrack/prodytter) are listed in the insturction manual as being 120 db. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallen 0 #13 November 5, 2003 ***If you're wearing a closed face helmet, you'd have to be REALLY hard of hearing to not hear an audible. Nullified, Now that you mention it, I was jumping a frap hat when I bought my first audible and since I switched to a full face I have had no problem hearing it. I'm glad you brought that up, not only am I hard of hearing but I can't remember s*#t either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlackholeSon 0 #14 November 5, 2003 Quote***If you're wearing a closed face helmet, you'd have to be REALLY hard of hearing to not hear an audible. Nullified, Now that you mention it, I was jumping a frap hat when I bought my first audible and since I switched to a full face I have had no problem hearing it. I'm glad you brought that up, not only am I hard of hearing but I can't remember s*#t either. I can't remember shit either, but that's another story. However, I own both a Z1 and a mindwarp. The mindwarp is the older style with external pocket. I've never really heard my audible well enough...like stated above, you have to be listening for it. On the otherhand, when I started jumping my Z1 I could hear it no problem. I loved it. As of late I can't hear it for shit. I've even tried adjusting it inside the helmet to no avail. Maybe I'm loosing my hearing? Someone mentioned I might be deaf to high pitched tones, not so if I can hear it on the ground. Which I can, so what the hell? ---------- Here's to cheating, stealing, fighting, and drinking. If you cheat, cheat death. If you steal, steal a woman's heart. If you fight, fight for a brother. If you drink, drink with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #15 November 5, 2003 Pro Dytter is 120DB. I wear mine on my goggles without a helmet - and have no difficulty hearing it at all. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyDave 0 #16 November 5, 2003 QuoteCan anyone out there tell me as to the noise level in freefall in decibles, I am hard of hearing and trying to get an audible to fit my needs. Thanks HUH.What did he say?? i dont really notice the sound......... some pilluck was screaming so loud i wouldnt hear it anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nicrussell 0 #17 November 5, 2003 When I show people 'raw' video with the volume up they immediatly ask "Is that what freefall sounds like?" or something like that. I guess it is, I really dont hear anything one I am in the groove. I do notice an overwhelming calm once I'm in the saddle though. nic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #18 November 6, 2003 Quote> No, that's no direct use to you in deciding what audible you want, but it's a hint: freefall is about as loud as 120mph wind noise on a motorcycle. Maybe a little quieter because there's no engine or sirens. Might depend on the bike. My fairing tends to spill wind towards my head, and the front of the bike definitely disturbs airflow before it gets to me. In freefall it's cleaner, but my open student helmet is pretty noisy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mx757 4 #19 November 6, 2003 L&B products makes them with LED lights that light / flash I'm deaf and should get one.. but heaven't But John Woo, Billy Vance and some of other deaf skydivers have the visual alerts LED light system. Also few camera people are using it too.. mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
BlackholeSon 0 #14 November 5, 2003 Quote***If you're wearing a closed face helmet, you'd have to be REALLY hard of hearing to not hear an audible. Nullified, Now that you mention it, I was jumping a frap hat when I bought my first audible and since I switched to a full face I have had no problem hearing it. I'm glad you brought that up, not only am I hard of hearing but I can't remember s*#t either. I can't remember shit either, but that's another story. However, I own both a Z1 and a mindwarp. The mindwarp is the older style with external pocket. I've never really heard my audible well enough...like stated above, you have to be listening for it. On the otherhand, when I started jumping my Z1 I could hear it no problem. I loved it. As of late I can't hear it for shit. I've even tried adjusting it inside the helmet to no avail. Maybe I'm loosing my hearing? Someone mentioned I might be deaf to high pitched tones, not so if I can hear it on the ground. Which I can, so what the hell? ---------- Here's to cheating, stealing, fighting, and drinking. If you cheat, cheat death. If you steal, steal a woman's heart. If you fight, fight for a brother. If you drink, drink with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #15 November 5, 2003 Pro Dytter is 120DB. I wear mine on my goggles without a helmet - and have no difficulty hearing it at all. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyDave 0 #16 November 5, 2003 QuoteCan anyone out there tell me as to the noise level in freefall in decibles, I am hard of hearing and trying to get an audible to fit my needs. Thanks HUH.What did he say?? i dont really notice the sound......... some pilluck was screaming so loud i wouldnt hear it anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicrussell 0 #17 November 5, 2003 When I show people 'raw' video with the volume up they immediatly ask "Is that what freefall sounds like?" or something like that. I guess it is, I really dont hear anything one I am in the groove. I do notice an overwhelming calm once I'm in the saddle though. nic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 November 6, 2003 Quote> No, that's no direct use to you in deciding what audible you want, but it's a hint: freefall is about as loud as 120mph wind noise on a motorcycle. Maybe a little quieter because there's no engine or sirens. Might depend on the bike. My fairing tends to spill wind towards my head, and the front of the bike definitely disturbs airflow before it gets to me. In freefall it's cleaner, but my open student helmet is pretty noisy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #19 November 6, 2003 L&B products makes them with LED lights that light / flash I'm deaf and should get one.. but heaven't But John Woo, Billy Vance and some of other deaf skydivers have the visual alerts LED light system. Also few camera people are using it too.. mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
