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Re: [freakydiver] Injury in San Diego

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There is a huge difference between 30+ and 100+. As for reading up on helmets, I raced motorcycles for team suzuki for a number of years and I fully understand the designed functions of a well designed helmet. But you must understand that there comes a point were the best designed helmet alone cannot over come the impact forces generated. Skydiving helmets were not designed or tested to any specifications, DOT,Snell, that I know of. They are more of a fashion statement or a platform for cameras. I would say the bike helmet you speak of would provide more protection than most skydiving helmets, but have you seen anyone jumping one? Hell no, not cool.
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100+ is a very unreal # for a swoop colission in all but the most severe instances.

"Skydiving helmets were not designed or tested to any specifications, DOT,Snell, that I know of."

That is precisely my point. Read above. That is the whole argument behind my idea.

"But you must understand that there comes a point were the best designed helmet alone cannot over come the impact forces generated."

Well thats a no brainer. But don't you think its worth the effort to save some people some grief and $$$$ by desigining a better helmet? Wouldn't you prefer your friend that swooped into the ground to perhaps walk and talk again some day?? If not I have no rebuttal.

All I am saying is no skydiving helmets out there except for the pro-tec takes safety into high regards and maybe they should like mtn bikers, dirt bikers, rock climbers, etc. Maybe it would be a good idea is all I am saying.

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I think it is a great idea. When I first started jumping people were wearing M/C helmets. Then the fashion war started. Economically, I don't think you will see helmets in the skydiving world designed to say Snell standards. It just costs too much and the market is too small. And yes, you can reach speed approaching if not exceeding 100 mph in a hard hook turn with the right canopy.
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There is a huge difference between 30+ and 100+. As for reading up on helmets, I raced motorcycles for team suzuki for a number of years and I fully understand the designed functions of a well designed helmet. But you must understand that there comes a point were the best designed helmet alone cannot over come the impact forces generated. Skydiving helmets were not designed or tested to any specifications, DOT,Snell, that I know of. They are more of a fashion statement or a platform for cameras. I would say the bike helmet you speak of would provide more protection than most skydiving helmets, but have you seen anyone jumping one? Hell no, not cool.



I think there is value in a helmet that can protect you when hitting the door frame on exit, or from an elbow to the face or kick to the head, even if it's not rated for a major impact.
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I think there is value in a helmet that can protect you when hitting the door frame on exit, or from an elbow to the face or kick to the head, even if it's not rated for a major impact.



John,
I agree and most skydiving helmets, even frap hats will do this. But I hate to see jumpers feel that they are protected for anything more than what you have pointed out.
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