CanuckInUSA 0 #1 January 5, 2004 I have video of a certain DZ.COM moderator cutting in front of some other skydivers while jumping out of a SkyVan during the Eloy Holiday boogie. Let me setup the scenario and then you vote about how you feel concerning this incident. While on jump run, the last group of of freefliers (a 2-way) are about to jump and a bunch of wing suit skydivers will then exit after this freefly group in one of their flocking dives. But for some reason, this moderator decided to cut in front of one of the two freefliers in what appears to be the desire to check his spot. What was this moderator doing? What was he thinking? How would he be reacting if the shoe was on the other foot? IMHO, this moderator had no business cutting in front of the freefly group, yet this is what he did and it ultimately resulting in this last freeflying group to land off because this moderator delayed their exit. What is so wrong with waiting for the group in front of you to exit before you check your spot. It's not like these freefliers were student skydivers needing help with their spot. The two freefliers are very experienced (in fact one of them has his AFF Instructor Rating). Either this moderator spaced out (in which case one wonders how often he spaces out while on a skydive) or this moderator thinks he's above everyone else and feels it's okay to cut in front of other groups in order to check his spot. So you tell me what you think? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 January 5, 2004 How is it possible for one person (the moderator) to block the door of a Skyvan and thus prevent anyone else from exiting? Further, what prevented the freeflyers from checking their own spot so they wouldn't land out? I'm so confused!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyRamone 0 #3 January 5, 2004 I think whoever cut in front of me would have a fat lip, I dont care who they are or think they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 January 5, 2004 QuoteI'm so confused! Me too. Would it make any difference - ie would this have been posted - if the person wasn't a DZ.com moderator? Was this situation discussed in person after the jump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #5 January 5, 2004 Dagblasted greenies, running around locking threads, delelting post and hot forking, now their checking our spots and delaying our exits. What next, perhaps they'll loose the (insert subject ) Nazis with carte blanche to enforce their views at the DZ? ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 January 5, 2004 QuoteHow is it possible for one person (the moderator) to block the door of a Skyvan and thus prevent anyone else from exiting? If you could watch the video, you will see this moderator blocking the door. QuoteFurther, what prevented the freeflyers from checking their own spot so they wouldn't land out? Landing out in Eloy is not a big deal (in fact it wasn't that bad of a spot). Of course instead of listening to the scenario, all of a sudden you seem to be painting the freefliers are the ones in the wrong. Once again, what the hell was this moderator doing cutting in front of another group in order to check his spot. He had no business being at the threshhold of the SkyVan's door before the group in front of him exited. Of course I can't expect someone like you to believe me because in your mind this individual is capable of doing no wrong. But the video shows it all. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 January 5, 2004 What the? No. I haven't taken sides here at all. I simply don't understand what the hell you're talking about. Ok, so show me the video!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blahr 0 #8 January 5, 2004 Yes, lets see this alleged video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,104 #9 January 5, 2004 >What was this moderator doing? What was he thinking? If it is me you are referring to, I was checking the spot and our line of flight before your (and our) exit. I suspected the spot was long, and had no idea if you planned to check or not. Sorry if it delayed you. As I recall, it could not have delayed you more than about 2 seconds, or 300 feet. >or this moderator thinks he's above everyone else and feels it's > okay to cut in front of other groups in order to check his spot. Right, that's exactly what I was thinking. Further, I have no consideration whatsoever for the safety of other skydivers by forcing them to land out blah blah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #10 January 5, 2004 How is the fact that this person is a moderator relevant? If somebody did something stupid while skydiving then lets have the discussion and learn from it. I don't care if the person is the "President of the Brotherhood of who gives a damn!". With that being said: I think you're trying to sensationalize this by drawing a relationship between an individual's stupid actions while skydiving (if in fact that was the case) and the fact that the person moderates on Dropzone.com. On that I call BS, as will others if it's shown that this was your only driver for this post. A bit silly if you ask me.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #11 January 5, 2004 (children chanting/taunting) Canuck's gonna get the fork! Canuck's gonna get the fork!Canuck's gonna get the fork! (children chanting taunting) ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 January 5, 2004 Wht noy just tell him to move. How long was the exit blocked, and if you knew you were LONG whyt not pull a little higher. Ultimately it your responsibility to check your own spot. I also doubt very much it would be his greenine status that made hmim think he could check the spotYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #13 January 5, 2004 Well, I of course can't be listened to because I have a meager 100 jumps... but, no one has ever cut in front of me to check the spot. I think if I had more experience and could spot well, this would piss me off, too, and therefore said person seems to be generally in the wrong here. However, I can't spot for shit, so if I were doing a solo, and it were questionable, i'd probably ask someone else to check the spot. I do most of my jumps 2-way with my bf, though, and he spots so i'm not worried about it:) jmo. angela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #14 January 5, 2004 AAAAAANNND theres the FORK!(sports announcer) ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #15 January 5, 2004 just so you know, I somehow clicked the wrong answer on the poll, too, the yes/no thing confused me... oops Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #16 January 5, 2004 .....Hells' Bells Brother..... relax.........!!! after all.... you are IN A SKYVAN.!!!!..... having fun SKYDIVING..!!!!.... At E freakin' LOY!!!!!! for cryin' out loud...... It's all of "Us poor bastards", stuck up north,, where it's SNOWING!!!!!!!! and 15 degrees !!! who should be the ones to be upset....... As for 'The video'...... we're gonna be in real trouble when skydiving videos become the tool with which we try to "burn" one another........ Truth is ....wink wink.... I Think you're just playin' here....... CanuckinUSA ..... aren't you!!!????? ..or are you Serious??????....... : - ) jaytee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sducoach 0 #17 January 6, 2004 Wow! Did he have DZ.com Moderator on his rig? Bet it was Birdman Bill Blues, J.E. PS, Bill, that's what you get for being famous!!James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blahr 0 #18 January 6, 2004 Maybe I took it wrong but I thought it was just some good natured ribbing intended to cause some amusement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #19 January 6, 2004 I'm still trying to figure out if you're as serious about this as you sound. This thread is just making me laugh. If you're seriously mad, it might make me cry. Then laugh at you. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #20 January 6, 2004 This is so childish I can't believe it. If he got in your way and "delayed" your exit, then it was your responsibility to check the spot before YOU exited. I've jumped with Bill, and he is the nicest, most self-sacrificing, and egoless skydiver I've ever met. He was checking the spot for his safety and the safety of everyone on the plane. Do you really think his being a moderator on an Internet site has anything to do with anything? Lordy.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazetailman 0 #21 January 6, 2004 Wether someone is a moderator here or somewhere else has no bearing in the world of skydiving. You can be a moderator here but not have the skills to make any or all decsions skydiving. These are 2 compelety seperate situations. It sounds like a case of a skydiver making some error on jump run. Whether he is a moderator has little to do with the situation. I don't know a drop zone that would allow even their loccal jumpers "to do anything they want on the jump plane" let alone screen jockeys.www.canopyflightcenter.com www.skydivesac.com www.guanofreefly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #22 January 6, 2004 QuoteMaybe I took it wrong but I thought it was just some good natured ribbing intended to cause some amusement. If so, then I'd like to apologize for my above post, and offer Canuck some remedial lessons in satirical writing. Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #23 January 6, 2004 ...well man,,,, you ARE just kiddin'.... right?????? signed, jackfrostjimmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #24 January 6, 2004 QuoteI have video of a certain DZ.COM moderator cutting in front of some other skydivers while jumping out of a SkyVan during the Eloy Holiday boogie. Let me setup the scenario and then you vote about how you feel concerning this incident *** Are you serious? You need to look around and find something important to be pissed off about, like that mad cow those sneaky Canadians sold us. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #25 January 6, 2004 There are no moderators on jump planes, only jumpers. Did you confront this jumper when you got down? If not, Buzz, to late, times up. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mjosparky 4 #25 January 6, 2004 There are no moderators on jump planes, only jumpers. Did you confront this jumper when you got down? If not, Buzz, to late, times up. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
