372-way -- Press Clips

[Chizazz 0]

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[fudd 0]

372!!!
I thought they were going for 333.
It just can not be done! I still can't believe they actually pulled off the 300 way.

Good luck, and post pictures.

There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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I hope they accomplish it, it would be huge to go from 300 to 372.

If you think about it, as the floaters wait for the base to form, they can complete their wackers and fly the line in. I don't think anyone on the attempt has below 1000 jumps - so the skill is there to pull something like that off.

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I hope they accomplish it, it would be huge to go from 300 to 372.

If you think about it, as the floaters wait for the base to form, they can complete their wackers and fly the line in. I don't think anyone on the attempt has below 1000 jumps - so the skill is there to pull something like that off.

As I am trying to get adjusted to Bangkok time.....

FYI: pre-building wackers means building them in place (ie proper distance and orientation from the center)
then the person that connects the wacker to the rest of the formation picks up the grip on the base-side.

Building a line and then flying it over several feet to make a wacker has never been part of WT events or any other big-way events I've been on.

That's a common misconception about pre-builds.

I really have a cool slot - floater from the the left trail C-130.

It's 6:30 pm in BKK now.

Did you know that FAI used to have a 60 second rule? Formations had to be built within 60 sec to count as a record.
The 64-way at Perris in 1981 missed out on an FAI record because they took 63 seconds to build it.
It was impressive anyway.

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[jmpnkramer 0]

Yeah but how many people proofread that before it was printed and it still went out wrong?


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372!!!
I thought they were going for 333.
It just can not be done! I still can't believe they actually pulled off the 300 way.

Good luck, and post pictures.

Having been a jumper on the 2000 attempts at SDC and seeing that many jumpers in freefall I most certainly do believe this is possible. Even though we did not complete our goal I knew it could be done.

Chris Schindler
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FB #4125

[flyangel2 2]

Not directed at you Sparky, just needed someone to reply to for this post.

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Now, it only has to be held long enough to show "control".

What is the meaning of "control"? How do you feel about that time limit change?

Me? I have been on a number of big way events. Some have been a success, some have not, because of the 3 second rule. I admit, I was disappointed when the formation wasn't held long enough to make a new record. But I was overjoyed when the record was made and we were within that 3 second rule. IMO, I liked the time rule. This way there wasn't a question as to if we got the record or not. I think people will push the meaning of "control" in order to get new records. Again, it's just how I feel.

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

[dgskydive 0]

The record organizers left last week (well some of them) and everyone else is there now as well. They will be doing a record mass jump first of well over 600 people on one pass. then getting down to the record. Go to

www.theworldteam.com/

Dom

[dgskydive 0]

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I don't think anyone on the attempt has below 1000 jumps

From talking to Kate, that is about the average. There are some people on the jump with less then 1000 jumps. They are from the host country. They where out here training with BJ Worth and Rob Laidlaw during the big way camp in Dec.

Dom

[quade 4]

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What is the meaning of "control"? How do you feel about that time limit change?

I have mixed feelings about it.

On the one hand 2.72 seconds is pretty damn close to 3, but a rule is a rule.

On the other hand, a hand swatting a grip as he flys by -- is that control?

Well I guess this next bit is just thinking about my[/m] part in these things.

I think it places a huge burden on the camera flyers to capture that brief fraction of a second of being in control (whatever that means).

With something as large as a 100-way, it's very difficult to tell if a grip is legal or not just by looking at the video. The "modern" way to do it is to have the camera flyers take digital stills and print out an 8x10. With that resolution, it's really easy to tell. The problem is that the still cameras only capture frames at a rate of about 3 every second. A lot can happen between one click and the next.

My biggest professional fear on any big-way is not coming back with the shot. The current revision of the rule makes it more possible that there could be a record jump without a recond photo.

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[ltdiver 3]

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My biggest professional fear on any big-way is not coming back with the shot. The current revision of the rule makes it more possible that there could be a record jump without a recond photo.

So, in this instance, would a judge go back to the 'old' way of judging a record? I mean, they -used- to look at the video and count the seconds. Couldn't they just freeze frame the completion and study the grips?

Wouldn't this take the burden off getting the 'shot' with a digital camera? At least for the judge. It would still suck if you didn't have a print to sell!

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[Mirage63 0]

I don't think anyone on the attempt has below 1000 jumps

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"From talking to Kate, that is about the average. There are some people on the jump with less then 1000 jumps. They are from the host country. They where out here training with BJ Worth and Rob Laidlaw during the big way camp in Dec."


I believe the average number of jumps is well over 4,000, much, much higher than 1,000

[dragon2 2]

If everything goes as planned, we'll start updating the website tonight, with daily news, photos and videoclips.

www.theworldteam.com

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[Mirage63 0]

Where on the WT web page will it be posted?

[mjosparky 4]

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Not directed at you Sparky, just needed someone to reply to for this post.

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Now, it only has to be held long enough to show "control".

What is the meaning of "control"? How do you feel about that time limit change?

Me? I have been on a number of big way events. Some have been a success, some have not, because of the 3 second rule. I admit, I was disappointed when the formation wasn't held long enough to make a new record. But I was overjoyed when the record was made and we were within that 3 second rule. IMO, I liked the time rule. This way there wasn't a question as to if we got the record or not. I think people will push the meaning of "control" in order to get new records. Again, it's just how I feel.

There used to be a thing called the California rule. If you could get a picture it counted. I was on the 64 way at Perris and it was heart breaking. You have to remember we did that with jumpsuits as big as Hobby Cat sails.
There is one guy, Tony from CN on the 372 attempts with just over 900 jumps. I have jumped with on a couple of big ways and he is good.
Sparky
Mar, he was at the TX pops and at Perris last year.

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[flyangel2 2]

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There used to be a thing called the California rule. If you could get a picture it counted.

So that means Paul had better be with it that day and get the shot

So Mikey, you didn't say if you liked the new rule or not.

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

[quade 4]

For updates from Kate Cooper, check out the Perris web site.

Here is what she has written so far, just in case it scrolls off the blog.

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Kate on Friday, January 23, 2004 at 07:19

Thailand, Day 4 Today is the first day the entire team is together. We had a captains meeting at 9:00 and then a general meeting at 10:00 am. it was wonderful to see the entire contingent of 500 plus people (including accompanying personnel) assembled.

Of the 372, 66 people have attended all four World Teams, spanning 10 years. That's an impressive number, and many others have done two or three events. That's loyalty.

It's funny hearing people talk. Most of us haven't seen each other for four years, yet the talk is all "last year when we did the jump"-- it seems only like yesterday we were together.

Tomorrow is the mass jump into Sunam Luang. 672 jumpers out of 6 aircraft into downtown Bangkok. In addition to the local Perris jumpers on the 372, Kathy Skeie and Kliff Keltner are joining us on the mass jump to set a new Guiness World Record for larges whatever. It's a great demo. The landing area is huge, but the fear factor is larger--all the adrenaline with only part of the risk. Win win.

We load on the busses at 6:00 am tomorrow, so tonight (in theory) is an early night for much of the team. oh, who am I kidding--we are all going to stay up just as late--just set the alarm clocks earlier.

Until tomorrow....

blue skies from Thailand kate



Kate on Friday, January 23, 2004 at 07:19

Thailand, Day 4 Today is the first day the entire team is together. We had a captains meeting at 9:00 and then a general meeting at 10:00 am. it was wonderful to see the entire contingent of 500 plus people (including accompanying personnel) assembled.

Of the 372, 66 people have attended all four World Teams, spanning 10 years. That's an impressive number, and many others have done two or three events. That's loyalty.

It's funny hearing people talk. Most of us haven't seen each other for four years, yet the talk is all "last year when we did the jump"-- it seems only like yesterday we were together.

Tomorrow is the mass jump into Sunam Luang. 672 jumpers out of 6 aircraft into downtown Bangkok. In addition to the local Perris jumpers on the 372, Kathy Skeie and Kliff Keltner are joining us on the mass jump to set a new Guiness World Record for larges whatever. It's a great demo. The landing area is huge, but the fear factor is larger--all the adrenaline with only part of the risk. Win win.

We load on the busses at 6:00 am tomorrow, so tonight (in theory) is an early night for much of the team. oh, who am I kidding--we are all going to stay up just as late--just set the alarm clocks earlier.

Until tomorrow....

blue skies from Thailand kate



Kate on Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 07:22


Thailand, Day 3. Today is the offical arrival date for World Team '04 and our small contingent of jumpers swelled ranks to over 300 in the last 24 hours--many more are arriving late tonight. The energy is contagious. Hugs and kisses all around whether you last saw the person four days or four years ago. We've put the band back together--World Team is in the house.

I've got several beers, some spicy Thai curry, and two (yes, that's TWO) foot massages in me for today. not bad at all. Life is good.

More later

xooxox kate



Kate on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 at 04:01


Thailand, Day 2

Hi gentle readers. Today was more touristing. Tomorrow is the "official" start date, which just means checking in. About 100 people are here already, the numbers should swell to 300 by tomorrow and we should be at our full 500 (including accompanying personnel) by the next day. I saw Barb Duke and Kliff today, but most of the perris based group is due in tonight or tomorrow.

Today I went temple visiting. Absolutely amazing stuff here and the scope of the art and beauty is beyond comprehension at times. Very good stuff.

More tomorrow (maybe).

kate



Kate on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 06:16


20 January, 09:12 PM Bangkok I'm in the "Land of Smiles", also known as Thailand preparing for the assault on the largest record for Formation Skydiving. The preparation today included:

1 1/2 hour Thai massage at famous massage school. a wild-cap ride on a motorcylce taxi through downtown Bangkok a delicious dinner at a street vendor.

Tomorrow I shall work on more ardous training for this event. I've seen Barbara Duke and expect to see many more Perris/California people over the next day as the rest of the 400+ skydivers descend on Bangkok for World Team '04.

More updates to follow

kate

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver