flyangel2 2 #26 January 22, 2004 QuoteWay to go Mar. Let the others hang out as floaters for minutes on end! That's the plan.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bendywendy 0 #27 January 22, 2004 why, yes I was in it the other week - no benches. It's actually kind of comfortable on the floor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #28 January 23, 2004 Sydney Skydivers!!! CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #29 January 23, 2004 QuoteYou may get tired of it. Skyvans(my perspective) Noisy. Stinky. Hot (low airflow) Hard to spot. PITA Door. Did I mention Noisy? Scary to land with. Much prefer Twin Otters, and believe it or not, the Cessna Caravan and Grand Caravan are still my favorite A/C to jump! Blue Skies, -jp- Ahhh Who cares dude!?!? A turbine is a turbine!!! Sure as hell beats these little sardine cans we have out here in Kansas!!! =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #30 January 23, 2004 And they're fun for boogies and fun for folks that don't get to jump them very often or if ever. So I was trying to figure out where they were, so I knew. Personally, I really enjoy jumping Skyvans and CASAs, but actually enjoy Skyvans a bit more (call me weird).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #31 January 23, 2004 Quotebut actually enjoy Skyvans a bit more (call me weird). Me too!!! Just something about them.....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #32 January 23, 2004 They got a Porter in Deland last year and the teams used it to train for the World Champs. It was good for fun jumpers during the busy season because that meant we got the Otter or Skyvan (which I prefer). Last weekend I went to the dz and the Russian 8-way team was there. I mentioned to a friend that I was so glad they would be on the Porter, so I could get on the Skyvan that was running. He said, "nope, they're jumping out of a helicopter this year and are training in the van." I was so crushed, and it took me forever to believe him!She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fergs 0 #33 January 23, 2004 QuoteSydney Skydivers!!! That's Picton, south of Sydney. And SkyVans are a great platform to step off when in a wingsuit. I also jumped a skyvan over Jeddah in Saudi Arabia a couple years back. They were display jumps as a part of the annual Jeddah Festival. Apart from me as the token expat, all the jumpers were saudi - a great bunch of guys. The following year at the Jeddah Festival we used tail-gate Kawasaki choppers - also lots of fun. Blue Skies, fergs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #34 January 23, 2004 QuoteAhhh Who cares dude!?!? A turbine is a turbine!!! Sure as hell beats these little sardine cans we have out here in Kansas!!! Dude, listen don't tell anyone, but here in the land of the multiple big turbines (Perris Valley, and Elsinore) I MISS those sardine cans. I like doing 182 jumps from time to time! There's never been a better aerial jungle gym built. Can't beat it for SLOW hop and pops either. And heck anywhere they fly a C-182 I guarantee the newer jumpers are more likely to be able to spot than here. Launching a 4 way from a 182 is such a good feeling of accomplishment! A 4 way birdman flock from a C-182 ain't bad either. Hanging from the wing strut, landing gear, upside down from the wing, launching from the wing tip, climbing ON TOP of the wing. Wow. A great vibe climbing to Altitude with 2 or 3 of your friends, chatting and having fun with the pilot. The sound and smell. The heater burning your back in the winter (against the dash). The pilot flying around you under canopy when you pull a little high. Watching the sun start to set from the step! It's like the most private balcony in the world. No one yelling GO! GO! GO! GO!. No go arounds. The rattle, shake, and pur of take off. Hmmmm. I really do miss 'em. I think Jim Wallace has one. I'm gonna see......---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 9 #35 January 23, 2004 I haven't jumped a turbine since October - Mullins In Wichita........ You think you're going through Withdrawl..... I'm going to make the 7 hour pilgramage to the nearest turbine here in the next month, Since Freefall express lost their king air I have to go to Sullivan for their otter =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityGirl 0 #36 January 23, 2004 Eloy has about three more in the hanger! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #37 January 23, 2004 QuoteNo one yelling GO! GO! GO! GO!. That makes me so when people do that. How the hell do the people up in the front of the plane know what's going on in the back. There could be another plane or a bad spot. Ugh. I just want to turn around and flip them off when they do that. JP, I loved reading your post. It brought back all kinds of memories for me when I was jumping out of a 182, 205, and a 206. And I have to agree with you about jumpers knowing how to spot that have been in the smaller planes. They aren't afraid to get their head out there and look at the spot.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #38 January 23, 2004 QuoteI really find it odd that you would be pissed about a demonstration So when we're in Z-hills in April, lets go find one! There must be one around there!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Adriandavies 0 #39 January 23, 2004 If you like warm beer and expensive jump tickets Langar in the UK has one twice a year for boogies....I think Sibson also gets one in as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #40 January 23, 2004 I'm pretty sure Lapalisse has at least 1 as a regular plane.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #41 January 23, 2004 Quote There's never been a better aerial jungle gym built. Launching a 4 way from a 182 is such a good feeling of accomplishment! A 4 way birdman flock from a C-182 ain't bad either. Hanging from the wing strut, landing gear, upside down from the wing, launching from the wing tip, climbing ON TOP of the wing. Wow. A great vibe climbing to Altitude with 2 or 3 of your friends, chatting and having fun with the pilot. The sound and smell. The heater burning your back in the winter (against the dash). Watching the sun start to set from the step! It's like the most private balcony in the world. No one yelling GO! GO! GO! GO!. No go arounds. The rattle, shake, and pur of take off. Hmmmm. I really do miss 'em. Some comparisons to our 182s: * You can to talk to your friends on the ride up? 182s are loud. I've had to settle for getting enough hearing protection and learning sign language. * sound and smell. I agree here, nothing brings back all the weekend overhead airplane sounds I grew up with like a 182! And the smell of 100LL is tasty - I haven't gotten used to Jet A yet, and there's too much of it; 182 exhaust is more of a "dessert" smell, teasing your nose periodically. * heater? You have a heater? * 4-way launches: these are not only a great sense of accomplishment (especially if you are outside step, hanging on in the wind for what seems like forever), they're also very friendly. "Budge up - budge up - share a bit o' step, there!" The count is pretty easy, too - inside step just leaves when crotch bonks their helmets together. One of my own: in a 182, it's easier to hang on during turbulence, zero-gee, etc.. This is the flip-side of having so little room - there's always three or four interior airplane surfaces to hang onto. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VectorBoy 0 #42 January 24, 2004 One of Eloys vans needs to orient the floor seating to face aft. I don't mind doin the door in the van while wingsuiting if I get enough notice and let the pilot know we need some xtra time before jump run to deal with it. I know you can have more people on the ramp on the CASA than you can have on the Van ramp ( 9 max). And unlike a CASA you can hang some FF from the bar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #43 January 24, 2004 Noisy. Stinky. Hot (low airflow) Hard to spot. PITA Door. Did I mention Noisy? Yeah they're noisy, but ear plugs are dirt cheap and highly effective, I don't board the 'Van without them. I like that it's roomier than an Otter (I love Otters, but they're a little like being in a submarine with wings). It's just FUN to run out the back or launch a nice chunk exit. Let's face it, when people start dissing a Skyvan it shows just how SPOILED some of us are... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #34 January 23, 2004 QuoteAhhh Who cares dude!?!? A turbine is a turbine!!! Sure as hell beats these little sardine cans we have out here in Kansas!!! Dude, listen don't tell anyone, but here in the land of the multiple big turbines (Perris Valley, and Elsinore) I MISS those sardine cans. I like doing 182 jumps from time to time! There's never been a better aerial jungle gym built. Can't beat it for SLOW hop and pops either. And heck anywhere they fly a C-182 I guarantee the newer jumpers are more likely to be able to spot than here. Launching a 4 way from a 182 is such a good feeling of accomplishment! A 4 way birdman flock from a C-182 ain't bad either. Hanging from the wing strut, landing gear, upside down from the wing, launching from the wing tip, climbing ON TOP of the wing. Wow. A great vibe climbing to Altitude with 2 or 3 of your friends, chatting and having fun with the pilot. The sound and smell. The heater burning your back in the winter (against the dash). The pilot flying around you under canopy when you pull a little high. Watching the sun start to set from the step! It's like the most private balcony in the world. No one yelling GO! GO! GO! GO!. No go arounds. The rattle, shake, and pur of take off. Hmmmm. I really do miss 'em. I think Jim Wallace has one. I'm gonna see......---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #35 January 23, 2004 I haven't jumped a turbine since October - Mullins In Wichita........ You think you're going through Withdrawl..... I'm going to make the 7 hour pilgramage to the nearest turbine here in the next month, Since Freefall express lost their king air I have to go to Sullivan for their otter =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #36 January 23, 2004 Eloy has about three more in the hanger! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #37 January 23, 2004 QuoteNo one yelling GO! GO! GO! GO!. That makes me so when people do that. How the hell do the people up in the front of the plane know what's going on in the back. There could be another plane or a bad spot. Ugh. I just want to turn around and flip them off when they do that. JP, I loved reading your post. It brought back all kinds of memories for me when I was jumping out of a 182, 205, and a 206. And I have to agree with you about jumpers knowing how to spot that have been in the smaller planes. They aren't afraid to get their head out there and look at the spot.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #38 January 23, 2004 QuoteI really find it odd that you would be pissed about a demonstration So when we're in Z-hills in April, lets go find one! There must be one around there!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adriandavies 0 #39 January 23, 2004 If you like warm beer and expensive jump tickets Langar in the UK has one twice a year for boogies....I think Sibson also gets one in as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #40 January 23, 2004 I'm pretty sure Lapalisse has at least 1 as a regular plane.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #41 January 23, 2004 Quote There's never been a better aerial jungle gym built. Launching a 4 way from a 182 is such a good feeling of accomplishment! A 4 way birdman flock from a C-182 ain't bad either. Hanging from the wing strut, landing gear, upside down from the wing, launching from the wing tip, climbing ON TOP of the wing. Wow. A great vibe climbing to Altitude with 2 or 3 of your friends, chatting and having fun with the pilot. The sound and smell. The heater burning your back in the winter (against the dash). Watching the sun start to set from the step! It's like the most private balcony in the world. No one yelling GO! GO! GO! GO!. No go arounds. The rattle, shake, and pur of take off. Hmmmm. I really do miss 'em. Some comparisons to our 182s: * You can to talk to your friends on the ride up? 182s are loud. I've had to settle for getting enough hearing protection and learning sign language. * sound and smell. I agree here, nothing brings back all the weekend overhead airplane sounds I grew up with like a 182! And the smell of 100LL is tasty - I haven't gotten used to Jet A yet, and there's too much of it; 182 exhaust is more of a "dessert" smell, teasing your nose periodically. * heater? You have a heater? * 4-way launches: these are not only a great sense of accomplishment (especially if you are outside step, hanging on in the wind for what seems like forever), they're also very friendly. "Budge up - budge up - share a bit o' step, there!" The count is pretty easy, too - inside step just leaves when crotch bonks their helmets together. One of my own: in a 182, it's easier to hang on during turbulence, zero-gee, etc.. This is the flip-side of having so little room - there's always three or four interior airplane surfaces to hang onto. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #42 January 24, 2004 One of Eloys vans needs to orient the floor seating to face aft. I don't mind doin the door in the van while wingsuiting if I get enough notice and let the pilot know we need some xtra time before jump run to deal with it. I know you can have more people on the ramp on the CASA than you can have on the Van ramp ( 9 max). And unlike a CASA you can hang some FF from the bar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #43 January 24, 2004 Noisy. Stinky. Hot (low airflow) Hard to spot. PITA Door. Did I mention Noisy? Yeah they're noisy, but ear plugs are dirt cheap and highly effective, I don't board the 'Van without them. I like that it's roomier than an Otter (I love Otters, but they're a little like being in a submarine with wings). It's just FUN to run out the back or launch a nice chunk exit. Let's face it, when people start dissing a Skyvan it shows just how SPOILED some of us are... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #44 January 24, 2004 QuoteIt's just FUN to run out the back And then there is the view when the door opens,especially if its a formation load.Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #45 January 25, 2004 QuoteLet's face it, when people start dissing a Skyvan it shows just how SPOILED some of us are... No argument However it's all perspective. I wasn't joking when I said I miss 182's. Nor am I joking that one of the things I've yet to do in this sport is to participate in a 10 way speed competition out of a DC-3. By the OLD rules! Can you say CHUNK?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #46 January 26, 2004 QuoteQuoteLet's face it, when people start dissing a Skyvan it shows just how SPOILED some of us are... No argument However it's all perspective. I wasn't joking when I said I miss 182's. Nor am I joking that one of the things I've yet to do in this sport is to participate in a 10 way speed competition out of a DC-3. By the OLD rules! Can you say CHUNK? JP, Old rules 10 way out of a D-18 Beech is where its at. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #47 January 26, 2004 Narrow door or the wide door?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #48 January 26, 2004 QuoteNarrow door or the wide door? The original oval door, and lets to it with gut gear. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
