Should I sue/ What do you think?

[sdgregory 0]

If only it worked that way.

"I propose locking this thread"

"I second that."


Put it to a vote.


I vote yep.


But, remember, this is no democracy. it is a Sangirocracy.

Thank God. Cuz we'd all get mixed up in DZ.com politics and that would make this place no fun.

[dubbayab 0]

Thank you for your views. The consensus I got was most, or all of you guys wouldn't sue. I don't plan on suing either. This incident happened months ago, If I wanted to sue I would have already filed litigation, and would never jeopardize it by posting it on DZ.com. But that is not the case I simply wanted to here/read your views on this matter. I gave a few details on the matter, you know... medical bill, and wife. I could have posted it under hypothetical heading, and not included details. So let everyone relax
There have been some very good points of view, like whoofo judges awarding large payouts and the PA which doesn't have the money and will probably never be able to pay. There has also been ignorant view points from idiots like I'm a troll cause I don't want to post details. The fact is I didn't see the accident. As for the question posted about safety and training like gear maintenance, or practice cutaways, the answer is Yes, Yes. Every time I train a student I get in the harness and demonstrate procedure, and so does she.
As far as for the comment about informing the community about possible life saving item to learn here, well there just aren't any. Her accident was described by others with more time in/ experience as being a "freak thing", or "inherent risk".
As to the idiot on probation and his " connect the dots" I'm afraid your leading everyone in to a false conclusion, and that your a trouble maker
As to the Elvis guy who didn't understand, I don't know how else to tell you , falling back to earth, spinning trying to clear a horseshoe, and dump your reserve, it opens, the situation changes to being in the saddle under a reserve, trailing a main horseshoe partially inflated cell causing drag and trapping your fingers to your leg and suspension lines. Also the trailing main is causing the reserve to spin, the main like a rudder on a boat.
As to the lawyer who doesn't know Louisiana law, you can't sign away your rights, even if the defense has a completed, signed waiver it isn't worth the paper it on. But I wish not to debate this with you cause I'm not a lawyer.
As to the question about Rigger inspection of the gear, well the paramedics cut her rig off her and others gathered up and through the pieces in a truck and transported it back to the DZ. I was at the hospital and never saw her gear, until later.The rigger couldn't find anything wrong and had to make an informed decision by hearsay. There was one who said he removed the reserve from the freebag on the ground near where she bounced. Another who was the only witness states he saw her at 1,400 ft. falling back to earth, spinning trying to clear a horseshoe from her leg. He witnessed her reserve deployment, LOW, and believed her Cypress fired. However she doesn't have one. So for me to post any more details than I have, would be hearsay and unacceptable as an instructor making conclusions based on hear say. OK[:)
I expected to hear some interesting points of view, I also expected to hear from a few assholes, but I did not expect the response I recieved.
So now ALL you but pilots can pick this post apart for what ever it is worth I'm laughing at you!
To the rest of you who had intelligent comments, Thank you very muchAlso, I don't believe any of you should worry anymore about your gear, or a recall is necessary. Again I was only interested as to how many would attempt to sue, and how many would not. I believe everyone agrees not to sue, there is no money in it.

WB

[dubbayab 0]

Scottjaco you don't understand, I'm asking YOU the question.

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[Zenister 0]

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There has also been ignorant view points from idiots like I'm a troll cause I don't want to post details.

no you were called a troll because you implied that an unnamed manufacturer's gear had some sort of significant defect that caused your wife's malfunction and then refused to supply any sort of information to back up that implication.

sorry but that pretty much qualifies as 'trolling' and if you dont understand why that alarms and offends many people, the 5th word i quoted applies to you...

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[Michele 1]

Wow. I'm ignorant, an idiot, and an asshole. Kewlio. A hat trick!

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[3ringheathen 0]

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I believe everyone agrees not to sue, there is no money in it.

WB

Do us all a favor and quit skydiving. Focus on taking care of your wife and brushing up on ethics 101.

According to your post, this was a freak accident. THAT is reason enough not to sue.

-Josh

If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me*
*Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams.

[newsstand 0]

Can anyone check who owns D 25024? If the license is not valid then I don't think anything else is valid.

"Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

[Courteney 0]

I'll start off with my sympathy to your wife and yourself. Hope she recovers.
Like Kris and DiverDriver mentioned, we need to know what equipment she was using and her reason for cutting away. You said it was an intentional cutaway? If so, should she not have had a back-up system in case her reserve failed as is per requirement of the BSR's (ours at least)!!! And being experienced as you claim, should she not have made sure her main had actually released and cleared before punching the reserve?!
Don't think you'd have a chance suing the manufacturer.

...drags me down like some sweet gravity!!!

[pilotdave 0]

I'm as confused as everyone else. If you don't have all the details or any type of proof the manufacturer was responsible, and you had already decided not to sue before this thread (contradicted by your previous posts), then why would you come on here asking if you should sue?

The way I see it, if you think maybe you should possibly sue, put your case together and see for yourself if it makes sense to sue. Some people on here wouldn't sue for any reason whatsoever so its not worth asking them about a particular case. There were like 5 discussions about generally suing manufacturers no more than a month ago or so, including polls. You were asking about a particular case though. But how can anyone tell you objectively whether or not you have a good case if you dont present ANY facts about it?

Get your facts together, decide if the manufacturer DESERVES to possibly go out of business over this, and decide if you ever want to skydive again. I think skydivers should feel free to sue but be banned from the sport forever afterwards.
But if it was a typical oh shit situation and the manufacturer isnt directly negligent, how could you even consider suing?

Hope ya understand why so many people didn't buy your story.

Dave

[iowa 0]

I checked it. His D lisence is listed in July 2002 Parachutist. His instructor rating is current on USPA's group member listing.

WB,

I wish your wife a quick recovery.

Keith

''Always do sober what you said you would do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.'' - Ernest Hemingway

[dubbayab 0]

Courteney, Please go back and reread the thread, I know it is alot to read, but it was not an intentional cutaway where a second reserve would be need.like for a stunt as you have implyed. She had no choice but to "punch the reserve" she was running out of alt. The BSR state that jumpers need to preplan a hard deck, and at 1000' stop trying to cutaway, or stop trying to fix a mal, and pull the reserve regardless. OK

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[dubbayab 0]

Josh, you quit first, if your not scared!

[dubbayab 0]

I third the recomendation to lock this thread. It is over run with Trolls.

[3ringheathen 0]

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Josh, you quit first, if your not scared!

You might revisit Logic 101 as well.

-Josh

If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me*
*Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams.

[billvon 3,099]

>If they act like trolls I will call them trolls.

Trolls are people who purposely post fake or misleading information to get people riled up, not people who post controversial stuff. JohnRich posts controversial articles all the time; he's not a troll. Calling someone a troll is a personal attack, like calling them an idiot or a warmonger.

Now, on the other hand, if you want to go after what they _posted_ no problem. The usual 'attack the message not the messenger' applies here.