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Was the green light on? lol





I sure hope that it wasn't. If it wasn't cool picture, it it was there is seriously something wrong with whats going on there. I would say that the pilot of the otter should know not to fly where he was if there was no other circumstances
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>I'm thinking it was done for a photo opp.

Or just for fun. On several big-ways I've seen Otters right off the tailgate of the Skyvan during the climb. They moved back into formation for the exit. On one, he was close enough that everyone got up to look out the crack in the door and wave, and I had this image of the Skyvan stalling due to CG change and spilling everyone out the door right into the Otter.

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Then there was a load I was on a while back where a biplane put its wing level with the Otter Door and was close enough that someone could have probally steped out and been standing on it. :S
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> I had this image of the Skyvan stalling due to CG change and spilling everyone out the door right into the Otter.



Bite your tongue!!! Just the thought of that gives me chills.:o



If the Skyvan stalled, I think people would be slammed into the wall or the ceiling. Well. At least that is the way I remember it happening! :S

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Bingo, cool photo opp, that was one pic off two rolls of film I shot, the ones I took from the otter are pretty cool also, but through a window so not as high res. The pilots involved have a butload of time flying formations with these planes and talk to each other the whole time, trust me this stuff scares the hell out of me, and I was fine. I was looking through the hole in the van coaxing the pilot to get closer so I could take this pic, I took the pic he backed off, and it was cool. The only people that knew it in the Van were the 5 people closest to the back.


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Bingo, cool photo opp, that was one pic off two rolls of film I shot, the ones I took from the otter are pretty cool also, but through a window so not as high res. The pilots involved have a butload of time flying formations with these planes and talk to each other the whole time, trust me this stuff scares the hell out of me, and I was fine. I was looking through the hole in the van coaxing the pilot to get closer so I could take this pic, I took the pic he backed off, and it was cool. The only people that knew it in the Van were the 5 people closest to the back.

(my bolding)

So, not to be a dick, but part of the lesson here is "look before you exit, because you don't know if a photographer on the load and the pilot are taking some cool pictures"?

See, this is why I like jumping 182 loads. There is so much less stuff happening on a 182 load that I don't get told about. :P

But it's a cool photo. And I will try to remember to look out the door every time before I bail. (Or at least get someone in my group to do it. ;))

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that must have been at WFFC Rantoul!



Why?

Fact is I think it was DeLand. We did it a few weeks ago there.

This may not be THAT picture, but we did a 40 way with alll the teams at the FSL meet, and the pilots did that.
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"Bingo, cool photo opp"
Nice one Ray, this couple are from Josh Hill during the Texas State record in 02, from a Casa, they miss the framing to give it scale and depth though..
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But if a Biplane put their wing that close to your Otter, that just is plane wrong........



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If Mike Mangold was flying the Pitts Special biplane, it would be totally cool!
The guy used to fly F4 Phantom fighter jets for the USAF. He currently flies for a major US airline and has been known to fly Twin Otters at Perris on weekends. The guy has a few thousand skydives, having competed in 4-way at the National level. Last thing I heard, Mike was on the US Aerobatic team.
I would be totally Way more comfortable than when we were in an inverted spin at 2,000' over Perris, in his Pitts Special! Hee! Hee!

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But if a Biplane put their wing that close to your Otter, that just is plane wrong........



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If Mike Mangold was flying the Pitts Special biplane, it would be totally cool!
The guy used to fly F4 Phantom fighter jets for the USAF. He currently flies for a major US airline and has been known to fly Twin Otters at Perris on weekends. The guy has a few thousand skydives, having competed in 4-way at the National level. Last thing I heard, Mike was on the US Aerobatic team.
I would be totally Way more comfortable than when we were in an inverted spin at 2,000' over Perris, in his Pitts Special! Hee! Hee!



oops, I don't wish to turn this thread into a disagreement on how close jumpplanes should fly to each other.
And I don't doubt that Mike Mangold is an awesome pilot.

Buttttttt, there is absolutely no excuse or reason to fly jumplanes in super tight formation. Flying relatively close trail formation usually no big deal, if the aft a/c is positioned correctly, but to put a wing anywhere near another a/c's aft fuselage is a cardinal no no with a bunch of jumpers on board. Sure the Thunderbirds do it, but they have ejection seats.B|

I'm sure Mike could do it (hell I've done it in my younger, dumber jump pilot days), just saying it's not wise. For the non-pilots out there that no zip about formation flying, the airflow off another aircraft can f*&@K up your whole day rather quickly and kill you.

Otherwise, cool pics.


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For the non-pilots out there that no zip about formation flying, the airflow off another aircraft can f*&@K up your whole day rather quickly and kill you.




Entering the trailing position behind 3 Casa's I had to fly our 3 lead Otters through their wake. We always knew when it was about 8-10 minutes to drop. It was an exciting ride and that was half a mile behind them. Getting in closer and hitting the wake would be much more dramatic.

I know a Casa that turned the Lady Luck (DC-3) up on its side waking him.

But I do love the formation flying.
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