karenmeal 0 #1 April 15, 2004 When your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! And by the way, being underage is not an excuse. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #2 April 15, 2004 If my rigger saves my butt, you bet he's getting a bottle of anything he wants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 April 15, 2004 I save my rear and I'm buying myself a bottle Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #4 April 15, 2004 I can't buy any bottles yet, I'm less than 21. Still, if my Rigger saves my butt, I'll take him out to eat anywhere he wants..=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #5 April 15, 2004 hell yes, i take care of my rigger !! i have almost blind faith in my rigger and i couldn't wish for better one. i had one cutaway and i bought a huge bottle of his favorite vodka for him :) stan. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #6 April 15, 2004 Of course!!! Junior... what did i buy you last year? A handle of Jim Beam?? Not only should you take care of your rigger, but I had someone nice enough to follow my main down and collect my junk from a local McNasty. I bought her a six pack of her favorite beer too. Thanks, Gretta! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites USPA 0 #7 April 15, 2004 I buy a drink for my rigger, just because of the tradition. I am not alarmed at people not folowwing this tradition. Why? Riggers today (at least most dutch riggers) are running a business. I pay € 75 every repack, taken there isn't anything that has to be replaced. And for € 75,- they should do their job. It's normal fee for labor, so they shouldn't expect anything more. I know my rigger doesn't expect anything though. But Hey, I like the tradition. Using my reserve is a rare occasion (once in 800 jumps) and last time I did it, it was a hell of alot fun. Only the shame! (it was my own packjob and I well I was opening it... )The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,099 #8 April 15, 2004 >When your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? Definitely. She gets free sex. (Of course she gets that anyway.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #9 April 15, 2004 Heck I took Jeff to the State Store... and let him pick out what he wanted. The Beer Rulz at Snohomish need to be followed.. I see it as being part of the DUES AND Pie rules are DEFINITELY not being followed there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites loflyer 0 #10 April 15, 2004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #11 April 15, 2004 Sure I do, but after my last save I wish I hadn't..... The hangover the next morning sucked.... ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #12 April 15, 2004 I buy myself bottles of my choice all the time, including after saving myself. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Keith 0 #13 April 15, 2004 Oh man, you beat me to it. I was going to say I'd buy my rigger a bottle of her choice, but you'd get pissed if I took care of her 'cause you're married to her. Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #14 April 15, 2004 QuoteThe Beer Rulz at Snohomish need to be followed.. I see it as being part of the DUES AND Pie rules are DEFINITELY not being followed there. Yeah... You need ta police that up, Jeanne!~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #15 April 15, 2004 QuoteWhen your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! Um, that would be a resounding HELL YES!!!!! Thanks Todd for saving me from myself. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybeergodd 0 #16 April 15, 2004 I have gotten bottle from less than 50% of my saves.....most have given me a thanks but only the jumpers that have been around for a few years have bought the bottle.....the newbies have never bought and I do have 1 tandem instructor who aired out my reserve that refused to pay and HE is also a RIGGER....and I also have 1 save on myself and bought the bottle. I use the bottles like trophies...I put a name and date on them and display them in my bar and when we party at my place the jumpers can proudly point out their bottle and tell their"No Shit There I Was" story and then pass out shots from their bottle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #17 April 16, 2004 I talked to my rigger recently about this, and he said that most of the experienced jumpers pay him a bottle. He did say that most students or novices didn't buy him a bottle. I guess its because they don't know him, or care, or even know about the tradition. Heres a question... are people on student status exempt from the bottle rule? I know at most places, students are exempted from beer rules, but bottle rule seems more important. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #18 April 16, 2004 Errr.... I pay my rigger to pack my reserve. It's his job to do it correctly. If I decide to use the reserve, I have saved my life. My rigger has not saved my life. But back to the bottle thing. Maybe they don't do that in Germany, I dunno. But for me it's starting to get expensive if I have to buy a bottle for a reserve use (3 reserves in the last 400 jumps) On my last reserve the rigger did ask for the video, which of course he get's for free. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwmike 0 #19 April 16, 2004 QuoteWhen your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! And by the way, being underage is not an excuse. One of many traditions dying in the modern business environment of skydiving. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JoeyRamone 0 #20 April 16, 2004 I feel it is the riggers job to save my ass, that is what i pay him/her to do. If you get into a car accident and the air bag saves your life to you go and buy the sales person at your car dealership a bottle? I dont think so. I saved my own ass by having the right, up to date gear, the rigger makes money everytime i need a repack. Do you go to PD and buy them a bottle for selling you your reserve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 236 #21 April 16, 2004 I'm my own rigger, and I don't drink. When I get a bottle from a save, I donate it to the DZ (I have nothing against the stuff, it just didn't agree with me). I have had heartfelt thanks for a number of saves, however. That counts in my book. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #22 April 16, 2004 Quote>When your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? Definitely. She gets free sex. (Of course she gets that anyway.) The question though is do you have to pay to get her drunk enough first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #23 April 16, 2004 Green bottles, HERE, HERE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityGirl 0 #24 April 16, 2004 My rigger doesn't drink. I usually get him a case of soda, but this last time opted for a Massage Gift Certificate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #25 April 16, 2004 As a Rigger, I've recieved many bottles over the years. Though, I don't drink, I save them, un-corked, with a label I put on the neck stating the jumpers name and date of the reserve use and his/her malfunction. I have also had one or two members of the FAA want to 'visit' my shop! I think, it's a neat idea, yet a dying tradition. I certainly don't expect anything other than payment of my bill. If, a jumper wants to do that, great! I'll add it to my collection. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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USPA 0 #7 April 15, 2004 I buy a drink for my rigger, just because of the tradition. I am not alarmed at people not folowwing this tradition. Why? Riggers today (at least most dutch riggers) are running a business. I pay € 75 every repack, taken there isn't anything that has to be replaced. And for € 75,- they should do their job. It's normal fee for labor, so they shouldn't expect anything more. I know my rigger doesn't expect anything though. But Hey, I like the tradition. Using my reserve is a rare occasion (once in 800 jumps) and last time I did it, it was a hell of alot fun. Only the shame! (it was my own packjob and I well I was opening it... )The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,099 #8 April 15, 2004 >When your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? Definitely. She gets free sex. (Of course she gets that anyway.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 April 15, 2004 Heck I took Jeff to the State Store... and let him pick out what he wanted. The Beer Rulz at Snohomish need to be followed.. I see it as being part of the DUES AND Pie rules are DEFINITELY not being followed there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loflyer 0 #10 April 15, 2004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #11 April 15, 2004 Sure I do, but after my last save I wish I hadn't..... The hangover the next morning sucked.... ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #12 April 15, 2004 I buy myself bottles of my choice all the time, including after saving myself. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Keith 0 #13 April 15, 2004 Oh man, you beat me to it. I was going to say I'd buy my rigger a bottle of her choice, but you'd get pissed if I took care of her 'cause you're married to her. Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #14 April 15, 2004 QuoteThe Beer Rulz at Snohomish need to be followed.. I see it as being part of the DUES AND Pie rules are DEFINITELY not being followed there. Yeah... You need ta police that up, Jeanne!~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #15 April 15, 2004 QuoteWhen your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! Um, that would be a resounding HELL YES!!!!! Thanks Todd for saving me from myself. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybeergodd 0 #16 April 15, 2004 I have gotten bottle from less than 50% of my saves.....most have given me a thanks but only the jumpers that have been around for a few years have bought the bottle.....the newbies have never bought and I do have 1 tandem instructor who aired out my reserve that refused to pay and HE is also a RIGGER....and I also have 1 save on myself and bought the bottle. I use the bottles like trophies...I put a name and date on them and display them in my bar and when we party at my place the jumpers can proudly point out their bottle and tell their"No Shit There I Was" story and then pass out shots from their bottle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #17 April 16, 2004 I talked to my rigger recently about this, and he said that most of the experienced jumpers pay him a bottle. He did say that most students or novices didn't buy him a bottle. I guess its because they don't know him, or care, or even know about the tradition. Heres a question... are people on student status exempt from the bottle rule? I know at most places, students are exempted from beer rules, but bottle rule seems more important. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #18 April 16, 2004 Errr.... I pay my rigger to pack my reserve. It's his job to do it correctly. If I decide to use the reserve, I have saved my life. My rigger has not saved my life. But back to the bottle thing. Maybe they don't do that in Germany, I dunno. But for me it's starting to get expensive if I have to buy a bottle for a reserve use (3 reserves in the last 400 jumps) On my last reserve the rigger did ask for the video, which of course he get's for free. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwmike 0 #19 April 16, 2004 QuoteWhen your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! And by the way, being underage is not an excuse. One of many traditions dying in the modern business environment of skydiving. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JoeyRamone 0 #20 April 16, 2004 I feel it is the riggers job to save my ass, that is what i pay him/her to do. If you get into a car accident and the air bag saves your life to you go and buy the sales person at your car dealership a bottle? I dont think so. I saved my own ass by having the right, up to date gear, the rigger makes money everytime i need a repack. Do you go to PD and buy them a bottle for selling you your reserve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 236 #21 April 16, 2004 I'm my own rigger, and I don't drink. When I get a bottle from a save, I donate it to the DZ (I have nothing against the stuff, it just didn't agree with me). I have had heartfelt thanks for a number of saves, however. That counts in my book. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #22 April 16, 2004 Quote>When your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? Definitely. She gets free sex. (Of course she gets that anyway.) The question though is do you have to pay to get her drunk enough first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumperconway 0 #23 April 16, 2004 Green bottles, HERE, HERE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityGirl 0 #24 April 16, 2004 My rigger doesn't drink. I usually get him a case of soda, but this last time opted for a Massage Gift Certificate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #25 April 16, 2004 As a Rigger, I've recieved many bottles over the years. Though, I don't drink, I save them, un-corked, with a label I put on the neck stating the jumpers name and date of the reserve use and his/her malfunction. I have also had one or two members of the FAA want to 'visit' my shop! I think, it's a neat idea, yet a dying tradition. I certainly don't expect anything other than payment of my bill. If, a jumper wants to do that, great! I'll add it to my collection. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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diablopilot 2 #11 April 15, 2004 Sure I do, but after my last save I wish I hadn't..... The hangover the next morning sucked.... ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #12 April 15, 2004 I buy myself bottles of my choice all the time, including after saving myself. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #13 April 15, 2004 Oh man, you beat me to it. I was going to say I'd buy my rigger a bottle of her choice, but you'd get pissed if I took care of her 'cause you're married to her. Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #14 April 15, 2004 QuoteThe Beer Rulz at Snohomish need to be followed.. I see it as being part of the DUES AND Pie rules are DEFINITELY not being followed there. Yeah... You need ta police that up, Jeanne!~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #15 April 15, 2004 QuoteWhen your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! Um, that would be a resounding HELL YES!!!!! Thanks Todd for saving me from myself. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybeergodd 0 #16 April 15, 2004 I have gotten bottle from less than 50% of my saves.....most have given me a thanks but only the jumpers that have been around for a few years have bought the bottle.....the newbies have never bought and I do have 1 tandem instructor who aired out my reserve that refused to pay and HE is also a RIGGER....and I also have 1 save on myself and bought the bottle. I use the bottles like trophies...I put a name and date on them and display them in my bar and when we party at my place the jumpers can proudly point out their bottle and tell their"No Shit There I Was" story and then pass out shots from their bottle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #17 April 16, 2004 I talked to my rigger recently about this, and he said that most of the experienced jumpers pay him a bottle. He did say that most students or novices didn't buy him a bottle. I guess its because they don't know him, or care, or even know about the tradition. Heres a question... are people on student status exempt from the bottle rule? I know at most places, students are exempted from beer rules, but bottle rule seems more important. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #18 April 16, 2004 Errr.... I pay my rigger to pack my reserve. It's his job to do it correctly. If I decide to use the reserve, I have saved my life. My rigger has not saved my life. But back to the bottle thing. Maybe they don't do that in Germany, I dunno. But for me it's starting to get expensive if I have to buy a bottle for a reserve use (3 reserves in the last 400 jumps) On my last reserve the rigger did ask for the video, which of course he get's for free. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #19 April 16, 2004 QuoteWhen your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? I've witnessed an alarming trend recently of people not taking this tradition seriously! This is even more serious than the beer rules! And by the way, being underage is not an excuse. One of many traditions dying in the modern business environment of skydiving. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyRamone 0 #20 April 16, 2004 I feel it is the riggers job to save my ass, that is what i pay him/her to do. If you get into a car accident and the air bag saves your life to you go and buy the sales person at your car dealership a bottle? I dont think so. I saved my own ass by having the right, up to date gear, the rigger makes money everytime i need a repack. Do you go to PD and buy them a bottle for selling you your reserve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #21 April 16, 2004 I'm my own rigger, and I don't drink. When I get a bottle from a save, I donate it to the DZ (I have nothing against the stuff, it just didn't agree with me). I have had heartfelt thanks for a number of saves, however. That counts in my book. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #22 April 16, 2004 Quote>When your rigger ends up saving your life, do you take care of him/her? Definitely. She gets free sex. (Of course she gets that anyway.) The question though is do you have to pay to get her drunk enough first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #23 April 16, 2004 Green bottles, HERE, HERE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #24 April 16, 2004 My rigger doesn't drink. I usually get him a case of soda, but this last time opted for a Massage Gift Certificate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #25 April 16, 2004 As a Rigger, I've recieved many bottles over the years. Though, I don't drink, I save them, un-corked, with a label I put on the neck stating the jumpers name and date of the reserve use and his/her malfunction. I have also had one or two members of the FAA want to 'visit' my shop! I think, it's a neat idea, yet a dying tradition. I certainly don't expect anything other than payment of my bill. If, a jumper wants to do that, great! I'll add it to my collection. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites